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TESTAROSSA 26th February 2004 04:54 PM

Quote:
On 2004-02-26 12:04, crash wrote:

OK Testa,

We have:
1. Must be a maiden
2. 1st. or 2nd. up
3. 10 or less starts
4. 9/1 or less first career start
5. Must be $8 or more starting price
6. ???????
7. ???????

Two rules missing folks.

Cheers.


Last 2 rules involve lengths beaten throughout racing career.

If everyone is sick of figuring them out i will tell the last 2 rules.

Cheers.

crash 26th February 2004 05:20 PM


Testa,

When Sports was publishing his great systems ,some people thought I was giving him a hard time [ far from it actually ]. Later in his thread I called him altruistic [ suffering an over generous heart ] for what he was doing.

Sportz eventually saw my point and realized that in this game, you are betting against other punters, not the TAB.

When I posted my last post, Gosford R4/3 was showing above $8 [$11 I think ] and it was the only bet I got on [payed in Vic. $6.70] as I wasn't going to be around to see the starting price.

Why did it drop in price ? Because there has been over 400 'views' today and it doesn't take a brain surgeon to work out what happened.

Many people view this forum to pick the bones out of it [ I recollect calling them ****************s, which upset a few contributors that the barb wasn't directed at ]. It would be great if the forum was restricted to the handful that actually contribute ].

For a long-shot system, how long will it take for it to be impossible to find a pick that is starting at $8 or more, tomorrow, or the day after ?

Cheers.


[ This Message was edited by: crash on 2004-02-26 18:59 ]

kenchar 26th February 2004 05:52 PM

Crash,

It opened equal 5/1 2nd fav on fixed odds and came over sky it was being well backed, so if you think the price was anything to do with this thread then you are in ya ya land, UNLESS all the big punters at Gosford are getting their selections from this forum???????.

I would rather think their information was informed info.

Oh! just to make you happy I had a bad day, BUT that's not why I am posting this.

Cheers

crash 26th February 2004 06:10 PM


[ Yes, it's obvious why you are posting ]

Sorry to hear you had a bad day Kenchar .

Contrary to what you would like to believe, I am not mean spirited at all. You should take your vendetta elsewhere, as it really is tiresome, and probably not just to me.

If you keep following me around the forum snapping at my heals every chance you get, I'll do something about it you won't like
[ IT'S TIRESOME MATE ! ].

On IAS the price was above $11 [ not fixed ] when I placed my bet.

It doesn't take BIG punters to kill a price this time of week, just a lot of smallish ones !!

Cheers and better luck tomorrow.


[ This Message was edited by: crash on 2004-02-26 19:30 ]

kenchar 26th February 2004 06:28 PM

Crash,

Sorry I can't agree the tab price just adjusted itself to somewhere around it,s on course price which is the norm except for big longshots.

The only exception you will get to this is midweek Brisbane and Adelaide races ( mainly Brisbane) where their market % is so high you can get a large variation, but mainly in the bigger open fields which are very FLAT in the betting, and here You can find a horse $5 with the books and say $12 on the tab, BUT only if Sky doesn't mention the difference because if they do sure as hell the sheep will follow.

Cheers

I just noticed the additions to your last post, there is no vendetta as you call it, but as I posted a few months ago quite often I pick you up on a lot of of things, but never bothered posting back, now I am and it seems like you can't cop it.

You like giving it out though.

By the way the horse WAS TOP SELECTION ON QTAB RADIO PICKS, and do you realise how many people follow those.

Cheers again

[ This Message was edited by: kenchar on 2004-02-26 20:11 ]

crash 26th February 2004 07:38 PM


Sorry, my response allowance for you has just run out Kenchar [ you'll have to find your cheap thrills ealsewhere ].

[ This Message was edited by: crash on 2004-02-26 20:39 ]

TESTAROSSA 26th February 2004 07:52 PM

These are the results since Sunday 8th February:

Wyong

R1 (9) Birubianice – UNP

Flemington

R3 (8) Teleprint - UNP

Sunshine Coast

R2 (17) Buck’s Secret – 1st, $34.20, $6.60
R2 (18) Monkeypicken – 4th

Gawler

R2 (9) Northgate Street - UNP
R3 (9) I’ll Have Fun – UNP
R3 (12) Len’s Gold – UNP

Kilmore

R3 (2) Clear Intent – 2nd, $3.40
R9 (5) Kenny’s Rainbow – UNP
R9 (8) Vice Admiral – UNP

Wagga Wagga

R3 (3) Plaudere – 2nd, $2.70
R3 (5) Captain Aubrey – 1st, $13.40, $3.50

Pinjarra

R2 (7) Dr Gee – UNP
R3 (9) Royal Risca – UNP

Warracknabeal

R3 (1) Bud’s Boy – UNP
R3 (4) Duel In The Sun – UNP

9/2/04

Hobart

R1 (1) I’m A Bandit – UNP

10/2/04

Seymour

R8 (5) James Blonde – UNP

11/2/04

Sale

R2 (7) Houston Calling – UNP
R2 (17) Oriana – 1st, $19.10, $4.50

Ipswich

R2 (2) Mates Rates – 2nd, $9.20

Balaklava

R2 (9) Bobbie Deegs – 1st, $12.80, $2.70
R2 (12) Oceanic Belle – UNP
R3 (5) Chigwidden – UNP
R3 (6) Hurricane City – 3rd, $2.10

12/2/04

Gosford

R6 (6) Hilly – 4th

Ballarat

R1 (8) Red Sceptre – UNP
R1 (13) Classic Chevron – 3rd, $2.00
R2 (6) Thorbey - UNP
R2 (8) Leeds United – 4th

Bunbury

R2 (12) Royal Showman – 1st, $9.60, $3.10

13/2/04

Eagle Farm

R2 (1) Tropiqualo – 2nd, $2.70
R2 (6) Craiglea Warrior – 4th
R3 (4) Odalisk – 3rd, $3.70

Horsham

R1 (12) Staresque - UNP

Goulburn

R3 (6) Spy Game – UNP

Walcha

R7 (5) Prince Of Time - UNP

14/2/04

Wangaratta

R3 (9) His Worship – UNP
R4 (2) Geiger Way - UNP

Gold Coast

R1 (1) Triple It Will – 4th
R1 (6) Cinque Bella Donna - UNP

Toowoomba

R7 (5) Great Drop - UNP
R7 (7) Reckless Jester - UNP

15/2/04

Kyneton

R1 (15) Honour Your Lady – 4th

Colac

R4 (10) Duchess Of Time – 3rd, $5.60.

Launceston

R2 (6) Grasjar – 3rd, $2.80

16/2/04

Taree

R1 (1) Madame Joy – 3rd, $1.80
R1 (3) Warrior Elf - UNP

17/2/04

Werribee

R1 (6) Lady Canny – 2nd, NPP
R2 (7) Charlie’s Legacy – UNP
R2 (10) Gone For Glory – UNP

Townsville.

R4 (6) Crystal Express – 3rd, $2.20


18/2/04.

Hawkesbury.

R1 (11) Jonoble – 1st, $10.20, $2.30

Mornington.

R2 (4) Onus – 4th.

Doomben.

R1 (8) Starzami – 1st, $10.20, $2.10

Strathalbyn.

R2 (4) Bella Futura – 4th
R2 (5) Disco Slacks – UNP
R7 (1) Edison –1st, $28.60, $6.40
R7 (6) Dendy Walk – UNP

Pinjarra.

R2 (9) Coded – 1st, $29.00, $5.80

19/2/04.

Canterbury.

R2 (6) One Small Step – UNP
R2 (12) Zamurd – UNP

Benalla.

R2 (6) Apples – UNP
R2 (8) Weeping Willow – UNP
R3 (5) Nina Belle – UNP
R3 (7) She’s Striking – 1st, $10.90, $3.10
R3 (12) La Speranza – UNP

20/2/04.

Yarra Glen.

R3 (1) Bobbafet – 2nd, $12.50

Rockhampton.

R5 (4) Pegunny Jake

Queanbeyan.

R1 (6) Roxbury Hall – UNP
R4 (8) Tract – UNP
R4 (12) Meddling Magpie - UNP

Quirindi,

R3 (6) Broc's River – 1st, $8.30, $3.00

21/2/04.

Geelong.

R3 (6) Longstone – UNP

Gold Coast.

R4 (4) Skinstad – UNP

Kembla Grange.

R4 (15) Blushing Maizy – 3rd, $11.10

22/2/04.

Kilmore.

R4 (4) Mr Balinchy – UNP
R9 (10) Little Darling – UNP

Penshurst.

R2 (2) Dreja – UNP

Port Lincoln.

R8 (8) Daring Echo – UNP

Sunshine Coast.

R3 (14) Moneypicken – UNP

Taree.

R3 (6) Slashers Creek – 3rd, $1.60
R5 (10) Sudan Silk - $2.70

Wyong.

R2 (4) Champony – UNP
R2 (8) Neurology – UNP
R2 (16) Kaoru Square – UNP
R5 (8) Mr Brisvegas – UNP
R5 (12) Hello Cyrstal – 3rd, $4.40

23/2/04.

Scone.

R2 (1) Brocanteur – 1st, $37.80, $5.20
R4 (3) Tsear – UNP

Kyneton.

R2 (5) Red Car Express – UNP
R2 (6) Vice Admiral – UNP

24/2/04.

Bathurst.

R1 (13) Star Of Fashion – 3rd, $3.50.

25/2/04.

Ipswich.

R4 (9) Petite Fraar - UNP
R4 (16) Real Live Woman - UNP
R5 (11) Oransay – 1st, $8.40, $2.50.

26/2/04

Bendigo

R1 (2) Carlton Caper – UNP
R1 (8) Silent Street - UNP
R2 (2) Baudolino - UNP
R2 (4) English Oak - UNP

Gosford

R5 (11) Mechanical Fan - UNP

Selections - 101
Winners - 13
Placings - 31
Win Return - $232.50
Profit - $131.50
P.O.T - 130%
Place Return - $124.80
Profit - $23.80
P.O.T - 23.5%
EW Return - $357.30
EW Profit - $155.30
EW P.O.T - 76.9%

Cheers.

sportznut 26th February 2004 08:04 PM

Testa,

I take it those results are based on getting at least $8 or no bet???

Shaun 26th February 2004 08:49 PM

Sportz...i have a system that i am testing at the moment that is a longshot system with a 12% strike rate and and ave divi of about $12 i have a minimum price of $8 i have found that going lower you do get more winners but you also get lots more selections that lose....the $8 rule cuts down your bets just like your price structure on your systems do

Mark 26th February 2004 09:44 PM

Yes, well over 400 views, but by the same half a dozen people, over & over. I don't think they all had enough on to affect the price.


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