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Stix 22nd April 2008 04:27 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Privateer
Read 'em again because I've answered that previously.
Didn't think it deserved it, but Gee thanks for your curt reply.

Thought it was a rather inert question....I shall not bother you again, you seem very defensive.

Wunfluova 22nd April 2008 05:16 PM

Crash, if you are going to 'play' your system you must pay more attention to the selection process. :)

Benalla 8/11 Win $43-20

(This system is throwing up some nice priced winners but long term will prove a substantial loser)

jacfin 22nd April 2008 05:58 PM

Why is it so?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Wunfluova
Crash, if you are going to 'play' your system you must pay more attention to the selection process. :)

Benalla 8/11 Win $43-20

(This system is throwing up some nice priced winners but long term will prove a substantial loser)

Wunfluova
Can you tell me why you are so sure that it will be a substantial loser long term plse?

Wunfluova 22nd April 2008 08:59 PM

Jacfin, I tested it roughly over the period of the results posted in this thread and despite several good winners it produced a substantial loss.

I don't want to 'crash' Crash's thread but if he so wishes I can do an analysis over whatever period he might care to nominate and post the results. Could even post a list in Excel of the actual bets which would give a basis for further refinement if so required.

The main reason why I haven't already tested it over a longer period was simply because a shorter period made it easier to manually isolate the races with three or more selections that needed to be eliminated. (was a bit pressed for time)

If a longer test period is desired then I should be able to do this elimination programatically in Excel or if preferred just leave all the 'raw' selections in the list.

syllabus23 23rd April 2008 05:45 AM

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crash 23rd April 2008 05:57 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Wunfluova
Crash, if you are going to 'play' your system you must pay more attention to the selection process. :)

Benalla 8/11 Win $43-20


Must have had a Seniors moment [part of life nowadays]. It's not that hard to miss a bet here and there, but typically I missed the most important one. I'm sure other's following the system didn't miss it as after all I'm only posting the system results on this thread, So for Tues. as far as the system goes:

Tuesday [Unitab]:
BENALLA
5/8 x
6/9 [$9.20w $2.50p]
7/11 x
8/11 Win [$34.10w $8.50p]
TOWNSVILLE
4/8 [$6.60p]
5/6,7 x
7/10 x

I hope most punters having a whack at this system, got them all.

crash 23rd April 2008 06:49 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Wunfluova
Crash,
(This system is throwing up some nice priced winners but long term will prove a substantial loser)


Your probably right, as I did say at the beginning of the the thread:
"I've moved this to it's own thread and waiting until it collapses I guess. Going strong at the moment".

It's never bothered me betting straight away on a system I've come up with, without confirmation that it will still be going strong in 1yrs. time. If it wins for the first week, I'll follow it for another etc. etc. No past stats. are going to show how this system will perform over the next 3 mths. or so. The main thing is it's winning at the moment.

Thanks for the research offer in your other post, but I probably really don't want to know the results :-)

jacfin 23rd April 2008 09:00 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by crash
Must have had a Seniors moment [part of life nowadays]. It's not that hard to miss a bet here and there, but typically I missed the most important one. I'm sure other's following the system didn't miss it as after all I'm only posting the system results on this thread, So for Tues. as far as the system goes:

Tuesday [Unitab]:
BENALLA
5/8 x
6/9 [$9.20w $2.50p]
7/11 x
8/11 Win [$34.10w $8.50p]
TOWNSVILLE
4/8 [$6.60p]
5/6,7 x
7/10 x

I hope most punters having a whack at this system, got them all.


I backed them all, Crash. RL paid $46 and $9 on STab. Onya.
I also had TE Race 2/7 which seems to pass the rules. Can you tell me if I have missed something with that one?

crash 23rd April 2008 09:21 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Wunfluova
Jacfin, I tested it roughly over the period of the results posted in this thread and despite several good winners it produced a substantial loss.



That doesn't make sense mate [?]
If you tested the results over the same period as I have been posting the system results you would not end up concluding a substantial loss. In fact quite the opposite is true.
-------------------------------------
[post no.13] System totals then were:
Win out 137 Win in 168.20 Profit 31.20
Place out 137 Place in 163.10 Profit 26.10
-------------------------------------
[since post No.13] System totals to Tues.22nd:
win out 43 in 70.10 profit 27.10
place out 43 in 69.40 profit 26.40
-------------------------------------
Total win out 180 in 238.30 profit 58.30
Total place out 180 in 237.60 profit 57.60
Total E/W out 360 in 475.90 profit 115.90

Regardless how anyone bet the runners, win, place or e/w, a substantial system profit was made.

crash 23rd April 2008 09:39 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by jacfin
I backed them all, Crash. RL paid $46 and $9 on STab. Onya.
I also had TE Race 2/7 which seems to pass the rules. Can you tell me if I have missed something with that one?


'Singrid'. I just checked and it does pass the rules. I didn't see it as I'd been out and missed the jump on that race, so I only checking for selections after r2.

Time to let this system drift off the page? :-)


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