Should be Good or possibly just slightly into the Dead range.

Thanks.

OK here are my ratings with 80% prices for those two races. I will give you my top eight, as I am going out tomorrow and will not be able to update for scratchings, so if I have scratchings could you automatically promote for me please! If I run out of picks because of heaps of scratchings, hell I don't know, work down from the top in saddlecloth order and give me whichever horse you first come across that I don't have.... Giving 8 picks per race, you'd think I'd be OK...

race 7 ROSEHILL
seln mgn price name
4 0.0 $5.3 PATEZZA
3 0.7 $7.5 MUSTARD
1 0.8 $8.0 DESERT WAR
8 0.9 $8.7 UTZON
6 1.4 $11.8 PRESENTLY
9 1.6 $14.4 COOL FRONT
5 1.6 $14.4 DAMIGOS
2 3.8 $132.3 INSPIRE

race 8 5.50
seln mgn price name
5 0.0 $7.0 DIAL TONES
9 0.3 $7.9 DESERT RANSOM
10 0.6 $9.6 MAHTOUM
7 0.7 $9.7 SUNSHINE SAM-NZ
8 1.3 $14.9 DIAMOND SUN
11 1.4 $15.3 CHAINSAW CHARLIE
4 1.6 $18.6 SEUL AMOUR-NZ
6 2.0 $28.7 LEG IRONS

They both look even races to me.

Duritz.

BTW does anyone know what price Mustard is likely to be tomorrow? It's just that TAB sportsbet currently has it at $15, wondering if that's worth a little nibble.

Duritz.

I don't about that,,,but 2 INSPIRE won a few days aago....he not suited to 12 but i am sure Conners knows what he is doing....i didn't rate hime in my top 5 but will be having some thing on him.

Desert War is an early scratching from the Clissold tomorrow.

That's given no more rain of course. I hope I don't end up regretting my decision to use Rosehill instead of Flemington.

Gday All

Here are my thoughts on these 2 Races... I will update em if need be thru scratchings

Race 7 5:10 PM Spasa Frederick Clissold Stakes Handicap 3yo+
Group 3 Apprentices Cannot Claim.

9 $4.4 Cool Front
4 $4.4 Patezza
6 $5.8 Presently
3 $7.8 Mustard
10 $10.4 Jamieson Valley

Race 8 5:50 PM Feb 26 Nova 969 Party Handicap 3yo+ Open

8 $5.8 Diamond Sun
11 $5.8 Chainsaw Charlie
4 $7.7 Seul Amour
6 $7.7 Leg Irons
9 $10.3 Desert Ransom

OK here's my updated top 8 with desert war removed

race 7 5.10
seln mgn price name
4 0.0 $4.5 PATEZZA
3 0.7 $6.4 MUSTARD
8 0.9 $7.3 UTZON
6 1.4 $10.0 PRESENTLY
9 1.6 $12.1 COOL FRONT
5 1.6 $12.2 DAMIGOS
2 3.8 $111.6 INSPIRE
7 4.4 $174.4 TIMBOURINA

Race 7

Patezza 3.5
Cool front 4.8
uzon 4.9
presently 10.1
inspire 15.5

Race 8

desert ransom 3.6
seul armour 5.6
dial tones 7.8
sunshine sam 7.9
leg irons 10.5

if scratchings

race 7

timbourina
race 8
chainsaw charlie

ROSEHILL

RACE 7
10 JAMIESON VALLEY 1.8
8 UTZON 5.6
9 COOL FONT 10.7
7 TIMBOURLINA 13.1
4 PATEZZA 30.3

RACE 8
2 JERMIAD 4.0
4 SEUL AMOUR 5.2
1 COUNTY TYRONE 10.8
7 SUNSHINE SAM 14.1
11 CHAINSAW CHARLIE 15.9

Good races, like these two. Anyway here goes.


Race 7
Patezza - $3.00
Desert War - $3.80
Utzon - $7.50
Damigos - $10.00
Presently - $10.00


Race 8
Seul Amour - $2.50
Leg Irons - $4.50
Jeremiad - $6.50
Dial Tones - $10.00
Diamond Sun - $10.00

Good Punting

TO TOP RANK
 

Desert War is scratched. Probably can't win then.

Thanks Duritz,

Think I will wait till tomorrow for an update.

Good Punting

Ubetido,

Just curious, I see you have Jamieson Valley at 1.8 for Race 7. I did have a fairly high opinion of this neddy but last time in it was most disappointing. Are you going back to its early 3yo days to have it so short.

And just a general question, does anybody mind if we ask each other their thoughts on a particular rating for a horse. I read everyones ratings and I am intrigued at times to know what the thoughts are behind the rating. I am not saying it only if I see a rating that is a lot shorter than I believe it should be, but at times I see a rating that agrees strongly with my own and would like to check the raters thoughts.

I don't expect anyone to give away trade secrets, just generalised thoughts.

Good Punting

I have no problem with anyone at all questioning how I came to rate a horse, I'll tell them anything. Ask away, if any of my ratings happen to intrigue, which is probably unlikely.... ;)

Especially if I say a horse CAN'T win, like in melbourne there's a certain horse going around who can't win called


COOL TRENT!!!!!!!! LAY TO THE HILT!!!!!!

Duritz,

I don't have your obvious passion for the subject but I also believe he is a good risk tomorrow.

ROSEHILL RACE 7

2 Inspire (rated an odds on favourite)
10 Jamieson Valley
5 Damigos
9 Cool Front
7 Timbourina

ROSEHILL RACE 8

4 Seul Amour
6 Leg Irons
1 County Tyrone
2 Jeremiad
8 Diamond Sun

Chrome,

Can I ask how you come to rate Inspire odds on and don't rate Patezza in your top five.

...With one eye closed!!??
 

syd r7
4- Patezza 4.70
3- Mustard 5.40
9- Cool Front 5.40
5- Damigos 6.70
6- Presently 6.70

syd r8
4- Seul amour 5.00
8- Diamond Sun 6.00
9- Desert storm 6.00
2- Jeremiad 8.50
6- Leg Irons 8.50

cheers n good luck

Race 7
4 Patezza 3.70
9 Cool Front 5.30
8 Utzon 7.50
7 Timbourina 7.50
2 Inspire 10.70

Race 8
6 Leg Irons 3.20
4 Seul Amour 3.20
9 Desert Ransom 9.30
5 Dial tones 9.30
10 Mahtoum 10.70

Hi Guys,

Race 7. Spasa Frederick Clissold Stks.

4 Patezza
6 Presently
3 Mustard
9 Cool Front
2 Inspire

Race 8. Feb 26 Nova 969 Party Hcp.

4 Seul Amour
9 Desert Ransom
5 Dial Tones
1 County Tyrone
12 Keeping The Faith

Race 7:
Patezza $4.50
Utzon $5.20
Cool Front $6.00
Damigos $8.00
Mustard $10.80

Race 8:
Leg Irons $4.50
Dial Tones $5.60
Seul Amour $7.00
Desert Ransom $7.00
Diamond Sun $9.00

RACE 7:
9 COOL FRONT $2.50
4 PATEZZA $4.20
6 PRESENTLY $6.60
8 UTZON $14.60
5 DAMIGOS $14.60

RACE 8:
4 SEUL AMOUR $1.90
9 DESERT RANSOM $5.60
8 DIAMOND SUN $7.70
6 LEG IRONS $10.90
5 DIAL TONES $46.30

ROSEHILL RACE 7

9. Cool Front $2.8
8. Utzon $5.3
6. Presently $6.8
5. Damigos $7.5
4. Patezza $10

ROSEHILL RACE 8

4. Seul Amour $4.4
5. Dial Tones $5.3
2. Jeremiad $5.7
9. Desert Ransom $6.2
6. Leg Irons $11.0

Inspire won a $330,000 race last start, and Patezza ran 2nd in an $80,000 race. Now while the actual class was only an Open for Inspire and a LR for Patezza, I hold a lot more credence on the merits of Inspires run. Inspire is coming back in distance and beat 16 runners home, Patezza is going up in distance and only beat 8 runners home. Also the PPP ratings for the races rate Inspire's run better than Patezza. I think it's a pretty good case for Inspire, but of course we shall see.

I agree with you totaly Crome Prince...i was listening to that race the other day and it was a good one....i can only find one problem is that Inspire is not the best at 1200m but hopefully that won't be a problem.....anf he raced 5 days ago so thats a good sign....funny i didn't rate him in my chances because i was using a program i developed...but i do have a scratching in that race so i will slip him in....and am going to have a big wack at him as well.

Inspire
 

No wins at 1,200m from 9 tries and no wins from 11 tries at Rosehill.

My updated ratings.....even thought i didn't have Inspire in my first picks i have decided to replace the scratched Desert War with a pinch hitter


SR7
2 Inspire (3) $3.99
9 Cool Front (2) $6.49
4 Patezza (1) $8.69
3 Mustard (8) $8.69
8 Utzon (10) $8.95

SR8
2 Jeremiad (13) $5.54
1 County Tyrone (9) $7.08
4 Seul Amour (NZ) (8) $7.57
6 Leg Irons (1) $8.88
8 Diamond Sun (NZ) (6) $10.49


Inspire is actualy rated at 12/1 on Tabform

my original ratings had him at 10/1
so i guess this this will be an interested test...ratings V emotion i really like this horse

Worried about leaving Jeremiad out of the last race.

With Both eyes open, no better chance but.


Race 7

Patezza - $2.20
Cool Front - $3.60
Utzon - $4.70
Damigos - $8.50
Presently - $8.50


Race 8

Seul Amour - $2.50
Leg Irons - $4.50
Jeremiad - $6.50
Dial Tones - $10.00
Diamond Sun - $10.00

Good Punting

Shaun,


How many ratings points do you give for emotion and do you have a range of emotions and a corresponding ratings system.

Chrome,

Thanks for the reply and I think some of the points are valid. But to have Inspire rated at odds on and no place for Patezza in your top five???

But as you say only time will tell.

Good Luck

HHHmmm i did some checking and Inspire was not the horse that i heared run 5 days ago....well that changes things a bit...see what emotion can do get you in trouble....but like all things that can and will happen in racing i am leaving him as my top rater because i know if i change it now he will win...lol

Ratings Challenge
 

Rosehill Race 7
9. Cool Front $4.50
5. Damigos $7.00
4. Patezza $7.50
6. Presently $8.00
8. Utzon $9.00

Rosehill Race 8
13. Verb $5.50
10. Mahtoum $7.50
6. Leg Irons $8.50
4. Seul Amour $9.50
8. Diamond Sun $9.90

Thanks,
QFB

I'm curious, what do you like so much about Patezza?

Patezza was twice Black type placed last time in and beaten less than three lengths in three other black type events. I believe he is the best horse in the race. He is a definite Group 2-3 class horse

He showed he has come back to racing well with a great finish in the black type Satellite Stakes and carries 1kg less than last start, I think mainly due to the fact that Desert War at the top pushed weights down and he is now out.

His one drawback is his racing style. That for me is the one problem, so I would'nt be taking too short a price.

It's all good stuff.

Good Punting.

I was confused when you mentioned that bit. I knew that his last run was a win on the Gold Coast on Magic Millions day.

SR7

9. Cool Front $1.90
4. Patezza $5.50
5. Damigos $6.50
3. Mustard $16.00
6. Presently $21.00

SR8

4. Seul Amour $3.75
9. Desert Ransom $5.50
8. Diamond Sun $6.50
6. Leg Irons $8.00
2. Jeremiad $10.00

Enjoy your day's punting, all.
Cheers,
H.