I think Filante just missed my point. Maybe I could have made it clearer.......For ALL 3yr. olds in a G1 [rum and tomato sauce], it's freak-out time. That's why I give chances to about 5 horses and anything at short odds is a bad bet.

Miss Finland was the ONLY 3yr. old in the Cox Plate and was taking on some serious [seasoned] street fighters.

OK. But that's just wrong. 3yos have a very good record in the Cox Plate - Savabeel and Octagonal won it and Viscount placed just in the last 10 years. Consider that not many 3yos run in the race and those that do are not always the best of their year.

Miss Finland's problem was not that she "freaked-out". She simply got knowcked down 6-8 times and never got clear golloping room. With a clear run she may have won. As it was, she finished on the heels of the placegetters.

With MISS Finland we are [obviously] talking fillies and no 3yr old filly in 30 yrs has won the Cox plate. She copped a hiding in the Cox by the boys [knocked pillar to post].

Efficient (Ank Morpork)

Melbourne
Rewaya
Merlot Now e/w

Brissie
Tropical express
Omnitrader

Subs
Shadoways
Vanquished

Good Luck Raw...and if i do lose atleast its to a fellow Queenslander...

ps I'm having something little e/w on Black Ink and Daunting Lad in the Sallinger...go the queenslanders

IMO she was ridden poorly,,,she had the chance to get on the outside of runners but chose the inside option in traffic....have to admit Miss Finland with clear running would have gone fairly close..

Sven that was the thinking behind my query re what happens in the event of a draw--As home team I thought about waiting for my opponent to tip, then I would copy and add 1 more for the e/w and be assured of going through to the next round--probably 'legal' but not within the 'spirit of the game'.

Maybe to stop it from happening, we could have an 'agreement' that the 2nd person to post can have no more than 2 of the 1st person's selections (or some figure similar).

Derby
Sirmione E/W (The One W)

Flemington
Race 1: #2 Wordsmith E/W
Race 3: #4 Snort E/W
Race 4: #8 Rendzina E/W
Race 5: #12 Lyrical Bid E/W
Race 8: #5 Gee I Jane E/W

SUBS
Flemington Race 2: #12 Irazu E/W
Eagle Farm Race 7: #3 Picaday E/W
Rosehill Race 5: #1 Agua Corriendo E/W

Good Luck Mav and everyone else the best race day of there year today

I wont be copying anyones tips if I can't beat them using my own tips then I shouldn't be there I feel it would be ordinary of anyone to do that anyway.

While I haven't actually made a rule about that, no you can't do it. More importantly, I would hope that nobody would even think of doing it.

So, before we go any further in the comp, I'll just say that there is nothing wrong with having 1 or 2 picks the same as your opponent, but any more than that is definitely not on.

Ohhh, just saw this post and that is exactly what we'll do. No more than 2 of the same tips.