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Couldn't agree more mate.

thank you for the positive perspective.

Far be it from me to be critical cos Ive been caught up before myself in slinging matches which i wished id had enough presence of mind to stay out of and say nothing so getting in for your five cents worth dosent help the situ either....... having said that I think theres enough space in here for all of us to have our say without treading on toes............... cheers to all

I am confused now, but that's not too hard i don't mind tellin ya!

Mr S.Pants57 i agree and i don't. To say that "A" is too short a price and therefore will lose a match, race whatever just doesn't sit well with me. You could make a point that Nadal is S'house on any other surface than clay and back it up with stats and i would agree wholeheartedly - (damn there's that dirty word again). For me that is the reason he lost, nothing to do with price. Sure if the selection is too short a price then no bet, but that doesn't mean the other guy will suddenly serve and volley better because he looked up the TAB prices just before he went out to play and saw his opponent @ $1.10. "I'm sure to win now" he says. The fact is, as demonstrated in your earlier post, that Nadal is crappola on surfaces other than clay. Therefore you were right in your assessment but it was based on past performances not price.

From now on i will keep tabs on some of the sports i watch to find stats and short prices to see how they fare. You are most welcome to join me and we can see exactly how good your method really is. No pressure, no competition just for the benefit of all on this thread. Who knows i might even learn something - lol!

Mad ,you put a website up there earlier on for soccerstats ,its not a bad site i used to use it myself but I havent been back there since i started using Betexplorer

http://www.betexplorer.com/ Its got all the results with prices for all the matches goin back years ...all leagues and lower leagues have a look you wont be dissapointed.

Click on soccer (left side) then country (right side ) chose a league then scroll down the page below those results it will say click for full results then youll get the whole seasons results they also have livescores for tennis and other sports at the righthand side of the livescore page

Thanks Floydy, will do nicely. Have put in my favourites and will expect great things (95% strike rate) or i'll blame you! Only kidding.

However what i did find on that site under the heading "Hot Favourites" are the following soccer odds for the Premier League this weekend:

Manchester United $1.28 Vs Aston Villa $9.89
Liverpool $1.30 Vs Sunderland $9.83

Put the opposing views to the test. If Aston Villa or Sunderland get up boy what a windfall, but if not then i guess i'll be buying the beers.

That would probably be good examples to check out the diff in the betfair LAY price...
Ive read somewhere that statistically speaking you do better backing the "under evens" AWAY favs in the soccer .

Lay prices
Liverpool $1.32
Man U $1.30

What mean AWAY favs Floydy?
Man U and Liverpool at home this weekend
Or as usual am i misunderstanding?

Now here is an interesting situation. Since 1993 the Wallabies have had the advantage over the Springboks here at home. The record stands at 11 wins and a draw out of 14 played. Statistically speaking the Wallabies should be the favourites. However, due to bad form and injuries the Springboks have the edge in the betting market, thus making the Wallabies the underdogs. Therefore we could have a situation whereby the Wallabies are offering the value in terms of betting and are also the stat certs, in theory at least.

Sorry to confuse
Those two matches are good examples of the LAY Price for the underdog.

NEW SUBJECT
AWAY favs (under evens) are a better bet statistically than home favs under evens......What I read was in reference to english socceer

Hello Mad!! Had Nadal been the outsider I MAY have bet on him!! At odds of, say $2.50 he would've been a very tempting bet, and he only lost yesterday's match in a third set tie-break. It is INDEED the price that makes the difference.
Example; my nephew wins the 1500m at his school swimming carnival and now has a race against Grant Hackett. At 2-1 no way, at 50-1 still no way, at a million to one I'll put a buck on the little fella ; big risk but commensurate reward!! Likewise Hackett at a million to one on NO WAY, at 50-1 on, still NO WAY at evens WELL......
K909, I DID overlook the 2nd round proviso on Nadal and have had to suffer the consequences. I suppose if I was a punter content with small risk/ small return (consequently, big outlay), I'd be more receptive to these sorts of tips, and methods (and maybe pay more attention). Being mainly a horseracing punter it has always sat better with me to see my 100-1 shot just miss with only $20 on it than the $1.50 hotpot likewise get pipped carrying $4000! (ie trying to win the same $2000).It strikes me that winning .1 or.2 or.3 etc of a unit is a form of slow torture where you never get far enough ahead to really make much money.Probably that's why 99% of punters suffer just THIS fate.
Still, if you have the patience, good on ya!!!