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Cannot agree with much of what you have said there docker. Cento was getting his ears scrubbed off trying to get to the lead while ellicorsam was under a strong grip from the kid. The time she ran was phenomenal.It was one of the fastest for 30 years. Modem and Redwolt were good runs but with a solid tempo had every chance to run her down. Pike hardly fliched on her and she won untouched. Hardrada not suited under the weight scale. what the it's WFA. He's perfectly suited under WFA. In fact he has won this race the last two years. Refemme looks a 1000m horse and i thought the class would test. cheers umrum |
Would be a boring world if we all agreed umrum :smile:
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true that :wink: |
Main race at Bunbury tomorrow - At The Scene.
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Birthday Cup.
(4) Maximus Munius (5) Blazing Morn (7) Great Cyrus (12) Perfectly Matched |
Well I guess that leaves the last to me.
Strawberry Jane - Ammon Avenue - Shake Your Bon Bon - Tri Paris |
Things are warming up at Ascot with the GROUP III ASIAN BEAU STAKES, LISTED BURGESS QUEEN STAKES, LISTED FAIRETHA STAKES and LISTED ASCOT GOLD CUP all happening on Saturday. Should be great racing.
Current noms follow. _________________ All the best from the West Sandgroper :smile: [ This Message was edited by: Sandgroper on 2004-11-10 01:49 ] |
GROUP III ASIAN BEAU STAKES over 1400m.
1 Dedicated Miss 18 57 G F Durrant 2 Main Stage 1 57 A R Taylor 3 Stockie's Yarn 16 55 M W Pateman 4 Prince Of Vasac 6 54 B M Dudley 5 Quasarock 5 54 B A Lewis 6 Blinded 20 53 C A Stelmach 7 Bonnie Brae 9 52.5 V G Ferrier 8 Changing Lanes 14 52.5 R C Mc Pherson 9 Dead Eye Dick 8 52.5 B P Graham 10 Jarnot 12 52.5 P A Grantham 11 Lady Go Bello 17 52.5 F R Kersley 12 Lukaboom 3 52.5 S R Casey 13 Pennywest 2 52.5 D L Morton 14 Stir Pak 22 52.5 J G Parker 15 Track Jester 24 52.5 W L Radford 16 Re Enforcing 11 52.5 R W Price 17 Exchequer 21 52.5 L Smith 18 Rock Of Cashel 7 52.5 S De Vincentis 19 Always Fast 15 52.5 N D Parnham 20 Major Deal 19 52.5 W H Godecke 21 Biaggio 10 52.5 M L Williams 22 Fair Appraisal 4 52.5 M J Grant 23 Dr John 13 52.5 R W Price 24 Major Key 23 52.5 B Byrne-Quinn _________________ All the best from the West Sandgroper :smile: [ This Message was edited by: Sandgroper on 2004-11-10 01:55 ] |
LISTED BURGESS QUEEN STAKES over 1400m.
1 Stormy Nova 3 57.5 V A Brockman 2 O'Flirty(NZ) 12 55.5 D R Harrison 3 Moet Magic 5 54 L Smith 4 Purple Vision 9 54 W J Bradshaw 5 Business Girl 21 53 G W Webster (Snr.) 6 Capital Punishment 1 53 R C Mc Pherson 7 Ellenbrook 6 53 G P Poletti 8 Lust For Dust 22 53 P D Tapper 9 Run Ronnie Run 25 53 G F Durrant 10 Endesa 24 52.5 V A Brockman 11 Is Amazing 13 52.5 F R Kersley 12 Pet Ball 19 52.5 B P Graham 13 Rumoured 8 52.5 N D Parnham 14 Fiery Buster 14 52 D R Harrison 15 Holy Bounty 16 52 S L Miller 16 Key Ambition 4 52 C H Webster 17 Lomas Bayas 2 52 R J Sayers 18 Girl In A Storm 20 52 T M Andrews 19 Europium 23 52 F R Kersley 20 Antofagasta 10 52 N D Parnham 21 Salisbury Street 26 52 D R Harrison 22 Regal Bay 17 52 L Smith 23 Truly Elegant 11 52 L Smith 24 Dark Review 7 52 L Smith 25 Bella Nikita 15 52 R R Bynder 26 Chant A Lee 18 52 D H Ramsay 27 Sanabresa 0 52 J W Price 28 Feathers Aplenty 0 52 W H Godecke 29 High Impact 0 52 L Smith _________________ All the best from the West Sandgroper :smile: [ This Message was edited by: Sandgroper on 2004-11-10 02:01 ] |
LISTED FAIRETHA STAKES over 1400m.
1 Redwoldt 9 58 L P Luciani 2 Attractions 2 55 G E Daly 3 Metaldale 5 55 F R Kersley 4 Dr John 7 54 R W Price 5 Army Prince 14 53.5 B R Larsson 6 Stormblitz 4 53 D L Morton 7 Bicton 1 52.5 N D Parnham 8 Electic 10 52.5 N D Parnham 9 The Black Cigar 11 52.5 D Thom 10 Tidal Storm 6 52.5 M W Pateman 11 Air Lord 12 52 L P Luciani 12 Basto Man 8 52 R G Smith 13 Bearhart 3 52 D Thom 14 Gold Service 13 52 S R Bates 15 Our Solid Bond 15 52 S R Casey _________________ All the best from the West Sandgroper :smile: [ This Message was edited by: Sandgroper on 2004-11-10 02:05 ] |
LISTED ASCOT GOLD CUP over 2200m.
1 Blevvo 17 57.5 D R Harrison 2 Laetare 3 55 E A Martinovich 3 True Steel 12 55 M M Payne 4 Dundally 7 53.5 J M Busslinger 5 Glitzy Show 15 52 G C Ballantyne 6 Halopak 20 52 P H Jordan 7 Happy Johnson 10 52 G C Ballantyne 8 Indigo King 6 52 B M Dudley 9 Local Product 5 52 I J Thompson 10 Mercedario(NZ) 19 52 N D Parnham 11 Our Selection 1 52 J W Price 12 Saboteur 13 52 J R Bull 13 Servincent 4 52 L P Luciani 14 Shoeless 16 52 N E Pascoe 15 Universal Warrior 9 52 N D Parnham 16 Zakarak 8 52 C A Stelmach 17 No Anchor 11 52 G G Patten 18 To Dare Wins(NZ) 14 52 E S Cooley 19 Just A Kiseki 2 52 B M Dudley 20 Millfield 18 52 M L Williams 21 On Remand 21 52 M W Tuckey _________________ All the best from the West Sandgroper :smile: [ This Message was edited by: Sandgroper on 2004-11-10 02:10 ] |
where's main stage???
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If you mean today with all this rain, probably in his stall, sleeping. If you are referring to early noms for Saturday, try the ASIAN BEAU STAKES, 2nd horse listed. :smile: |
what's taylor doing. Main stage would win the cup but the asian beau is another thing all together. Cheers mahatma
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FAIRETHA STAKES (1400m)
1 ATTRACTIONS G E Daly P D Knuckey 2 55 2 METALDALE Fred Kersley P J Carbery 4 55 3 DR JOHN Ross Price P J Harvey 6 54 4 ARMY PRINCE B R Larsson J S Whiting 11 53.5 5 STORMBLITZ D Morton J J Brown 3 53 6 BICTON Neville Parnham S D Parnham 1 52.5 7 ELECTIC Neville Parnham B M Parnham (a) 8 52.5 8 THE BLACK CIGAR D Thom S L O'Donnell 9 52.5 9 TIDAL STORM M W Pateman T K Turner 5 52.5 10 BASTO MAN R G Smith C L Staples 7 52 11 GOLD SERVICE S R Bates P King 10 52 12 OUR SOLID BOND S R Casey B J Albuino (a) 12 52 _________________ All the best from the West Sandgroper :smile: [ This Message was edited by: Sandgroper on 2004-11-12 01:02 ] |
Ozbet EW odds.
DR JOHN 11193 $3.50 STORMBLITZ 11195 $4.50 METALDALE 11192 $5.00 ATTRACTIONS 11191 $8.00 GOLD SERVICE 11201 $8.00 ELECTIC 11197 $8.50 THE BLACK CIGAR 11198 $15.00 BICTON 11196 $17.00 ARMY PRINCE 11194 $21.00 TIDAL STORM 11199 $21.00 BASTO MAN 11200 $101.00 OUR SOLID BOND 11202 $101.00 _________________ All the best from the West Sandgroper :smile: [ This Message was edited by: Sandgroper on 2004-11-12 01:02 ] |
ASCOT GOLD CUP (2200m)
1 BLEVVO D R Harrison Ms A D Sansom 11 57.5 2 LAETARE E A Martinovich D A O'Heare 1 55 3 TRUE STEEL Mrs M M Payne C L Staples 8 55 4 DUNDALLY J M Busslinger P Hall 4 53.5 5 HALOPAK P H Jordan P King 13 52 6 HAPPY JOHNSON Graeme Ballantyne T K Turner 6 52 7 INDIGO KING Mrs B M Dudley 3 52 8 LOCAL PRODUCT I J Thompson J S Whiting 2 52 9 MERCEDARIO (NZ) Neville Parnham S D Parnham 12 52 10 NO ANCHOR G G Patten N A Chapman 7 52 11 SABOTEUR J R Bull 9 52 12 SHOELESS N E Pascoe J J Brown 10 52 13 ZAKARAK C A Stelmach P J Carbery 5 52 _________________ All the best from the West Sandgroper :smile: [ This Message was edited by: Sandgroper on 2004-11-12 01:06 ] |
Ozbet EW odds.
DUNDALLY 11214 $4.40 LAETARE 11212 $4.60 BLEVVO 11211 $5.50 TRUE STEEL 11213 $5.50 LOCAL PRODUCT 11218 $9.00 SABOTEUR 11221 $10.00 ZAKARAK 11223 $10.00 HALOPAK 11215 $14.00 MERCEDARIO 11219 $16.00 SHOELESS 11222 $51.00 HAPPY JOHNSON 11216 $81.00 NO ANCHOR 11220 $101.00 _________________ All the best from the West Sandgroper :smile: [ This Message was edited by: Sandgroper on 2004-11-12 01:10 ] |
BURGESS QUEEN STAKES (1400m)
1 STORMY NOVA V A Brockman Ms A D Sansom 3 57.5 2 O'FLIRTY (NZ) D R Harrison P J Harvey 11 55.5 3 MOET MAGIC Lindsey Smith 5 54 4 PURPLE VISION W J Bradshaw J S Whiting 9 54 5 CAPITAL PUNISHMENT R C Mc Pherson P King 1 53 6 ELLENBROOK G P Poletti 6 53 7 LUST FOR DUST P D Tapper T K Turner 18 53 8 RUN RONNIE RUN G F Durrant N A Chapman 20 53 9 ENDESA V A Brockman P D Knuckey 19 52.5 10 IS AMAZING Fred Kersley P J Carbery 12 52.5 11 RUMOURED Neville Parnham S D Parnham 8 52.5 12 FIERY BUSTER D R Harrison T Ikenushi 13 52 13 HOLY BOUNTY S L Miller J J Brown 15 52 14 KEY AMBITION Colin Webster D Luciani (a) 4 52 15 LOMAS BAYAS R J Sayers C K Harvey 2 52 16 REGAL BAY Lindsey Smith W A Pike (a) 16 52 17E TRULY ELEGANT Lindsey Smith Ms J D Valas (a) 10 52 18E DARK REVIEW Lindsey Smith C L Staples 7 52 19E BELLA NIKITA R R Bynder 14 52 20E CHANT A LEE Dennis Ramsay 17 52 _________________ All the best from the West Sandgroper :smile: [ This Message was edited by: Sandgroper on 2004-11-12 01:14 ] |
ASIAN BEAU STAKES (1400m)
1 DEDICATED MISS G F Durrant J F Miller 13 57 2 STOCKIE'S YARN M W Pateman T K Turner 11 55 3 PRINCE OF VASAC Mrs B M Dudley P J Carbery 5 54 4 QUASAROCK B A Lewis 4 54 5 BLINDED C A Stelmach Ms A D Sansom 14 53 6 BONNIE BRAE V G Ferrier C K Harvey 8 52.5 7 CHANGING LANES R C Mc Pherson K Forrester 10 52.5 8 DEAD EYE DICK B P Graham N A Chapman 7 52.5 9 FAIR APPRAISAL M J Grant P J Harvey 3 52.5 10 JARNOT P A Grantham S L O'Donnell 9 52.5 11 LADY GO BELLO Fred Kersley P D Knuckey 12 52.5 12 LUKABOOM S R Casey B J Albuino (a) 2 52.5 13 PENNYWEST D Morton J J Brown 1 52.5 14 TRACK JESTER W L Radford P King 15 52.5 15 ROCK OF CASHEL S De Vincentis J S Whiting 6 52.5 _________________ All the best from the West Sandgroper :smile: [ This Message was edited by: Sandgroper on 2004-11-12 01:18 ] |
Ozbet EW odds.
PRINCE OF VASAC 11263 $6.00 DEAD EYE DICK 11268 $6.00 BONNIE BRAE 11266 $7.50 FAIR APPRAISAL 11269 $7.50 PENNYWEST 11273 $8.00 ROCK OF CASHEL 11275 $9.00 STOCKIES YARN 11262 $10.00 DEDICATED MISS 11261 $14.00 LUKABOOM 11272 $14.00 BLINDED 11265 $15.00 LADY GO BELLO 11271 $18.00 QUASAROCK 11264 $21.00 CHANGING LANES 11267 $31.00 JARNOT 11270 $31.00 TRACK JESTER 11274 $41.00 _________________ All the best from the West Sandgroper :smile: [ This Message was edited by: Sandgroper on 2004-11-12 01:20 ] |
Fairetha.
(2) Metaldale (3) Dr John (5) Stormblitz (8) The Black Cigar |
Gold Cup.
(1) Blevvo (2) Laetare (9) Mercedario (13) Zakarak |
Burgess.
(13) Holy Bounty (1) Stormy Nova (2) O'Flirty (7) Lust For Dust |
Asian Beau.
(3) Prince Of Vasac (9) Fair Appraisal (8) Dead Eye Dick (5) Blinded |
Well off to a good start getting up on True Steel in the Cup great ride he thought he put the writing on the wall last start and he beat them pretty easily in the end.
Blinded Prince of Vasac Track Jester Dead Eye Dick |
i noticed no body tipped one of my favourite wa horses, i affectionately call him THE ROCK. Rock of Cashel.
I have backed him in all but his first win and am staggered that every time he runs you can still get backable odds, yet he has lost one race. just wondering from you westerners whether they are tipping him over there or whether hes not really rated? anyway stoked with another win this arvo up in class and $5.60 i good enough for me. was heart broken when he ran 3rd but back on board today |
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last start in a welter he had every chance and was beaten on his merits by stockies yarn. stockies yarn is probably an underrated horse but there is not a huge opinion of him generally. I thought the rock started under the odds today but it was a great ride/win. |
thankz paddy was beginning to think nobody was going to reply.
didn't mean to sound like i think i know something you guys dont cos i certainly dont. was just curious cos this horse has been good to me so far. probably never win again now that i've said something |
Thanks for the thankz ra sun but I think you’ll find that umrum was the respondent :wink:
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Current nominations - Listed R.S. CRAWFORD STAKES - 1100M (20 Nov)
No Horse Trainer Weight 1 FAIR ALERT Owen Sweetman 59 2 KAPRATS W L Radford 58.5 3 GOLDEN DELICIOUS Jim Taylor 57 4 SECRET REMEDY Neville Parnham 57 5 DARK 'N' DANGEROUS K W Shanks 54 6 WESTERN TYCOON E A Martinovich 54 7 CENTO Fred Kersley 53 8 EDUCATED MONEY Neville Parnham 52 9 ELEGANTLY BLACK K L Grantham 52 10 IMPRESSIVE STATS D T Mc Auliffe 52 11 LAKESIDE RHYTHM B A Mouritz 52 12 REFEMME G E Daly 52 13 REGAL RAIDER Lindsey Smith 52 14 SHAKE MY HAND J W Price 52 |
Current nominations - Group2 LEE STEERE STAKES - 1400M (20 Nov)
No Horse Trainer Weight 1 FAIR ALERT Owen Sweetman 58 2 HARDRADA Lou Luciani 58 3 HARTLEYS DREAM Lindsey Smith 58 4 KAME'S HOPE Ross Price 58 5 LUKABOOM S R Casey 58 6 MODEM T M Andrews 58 7 MR SANDGROPER David Edwards 58 8 SECRET LINK Fred Kersley 58 9 TUMERIC Cliff Brown 58 10 DEDICATED MISS G F Durrant 55.5 11 ELLICORSAM S L Miller 55.5 12 REDWOLDT Lou Luciani 52 |
LEE STEERE STAKES (1400m)
1 HARDRADA Lou Luciani J S Whiting 8 58 2 MODEM T M Andrews P J Harvey 7 58 3 MR SANDGROPER David Edwards P King 6 58 4 KAME'S HOPE Ross Price S D Parnham 9 58 5 HARTLEYS DREAM Lindsey Smith W A Pike (a) 4 58 6 LUKABOOM S R Casey P J Carbery 1 58 7 DEDICATED MISS G F Durrant J F Miller 2 55.5 8 ELLICORSAM S L Miller D Oliver 5 55.5 9 REDWOLDT Lou Luciani J J Brown 3 52 _________________ All the best from the West Sandgroper :smile: [ This Message was edited by: Sandgroper on 2004-11-19 01:43 ] |
Ozbet EW odds.
ELLICORSAM 11168 $1.75 REDWOLDT 11169 $4.00 MODEM 11162 $6.50 HARDRADA 11161 $10.00 HARTLEYS DREAM 11165 $13.00 DEDICATED MISS 11167 $31.00 MR SANDGROPER 11163 $41.00 KAMES HOPE 11164 $41.00 LUKABOOM 11166 $81.00 _________________ All the best from the West Sandgroper :smile: [ This Message was edited by: Sandgroper on 2004-11-19 01:45 ] |
R.S. CRAWFORD STAKES (1100m)
1 KAPRATS W L Radford S F Mc Gruddy 9 58.5 2 SECRET REMEDY Neville Parnham S D Parnham 1 57 3 DARK 'N' DANGEROUS K W Shanks D Oliver 8 54 4 WESTERN TYCOON E A Martinovich D A O'Heare 4 54 5 CENTO Fred Kersley P J Harvey 5 53 6 EDUCATED MONEY Neville Parnham P J Carbery 7 52 7 ELEGANTLY BLACK K L Grantham J J Brown 3 52 8 IMPRESSIVE STATS D T Mc Auliffe J S Whiting 6 52 9 LAKESIDE RHYTHM P D Wagg B J Albuino (a) 2 52 10 REGAL RAIDER Lindsey Smith W A Pike (a) 10 52 _________________ All the best from the West Sandgroper :smile: [ This Message was edited by: Sandgroper on 2004-11-19 01:47 ] |
Ozbet EW odds.
IMPRESSIVE STATS 11178 $4.40 KAPRATS 11171 $6.00 DARK N DANGEROUS 11173 $6.50 WESTERN TYCOON 11174 $6.50 EDUCATED MONEY 11176 $6.50 CENTO 11175 $7.50 REGAL RAIDER 11180 $8.00 SECRET REMEDY 11172 $17.00 ELEGANTLY BLACK 11177 $17.00 LAKESIDE RHYTHM 11179 $17.00 _________________ All the best from the West Sandgroper :smile: [ This Message was edited by: Sandgroper on 2004-11-19 01:49 ] |
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Well looking at those odds they might as well hand over the winners cheque to connections of Ellicorsam now. |
Sad thing is its probably a decent price beat all of these horses easily last start won over the distance, drawn better. I cant make a case for anything else, i'll chuck redwoldt in for the exacta.
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Very good price. Last start she was only 2.50 against very good horses. Most knew she was up to them and she proved it but she hadnt quite done it in that class. I think realistically she should be $1.4. I'll be taking the shorts. Hopefully she will get to even-money.
cheers [ This Message was edited by: umrum on 2004-11-19 18:14 ] |
You guys must think this horse pretty special. Didn't fire in SA.
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