Sunday Greyhounds
 

SANDOWN Race 8

4 THOMELI DIAMOND $5.4
2 TOTAL REBELLION $6
3 SOLO SI $6
7 ONYA JACK $8
8 WORTH NOTING $8
1 SIMONOVA $9
5 BRAVO $12
6 GLAMOROUS KEISHA $20

SANDOWN Race 9

2 RAPID TIDE $3.3
7 TOKEN SPINNER $3.6
8 DEWANA SIENNA $5.6
1 BILLY BANJO $8.5
3 REAL BREW $14.3
4 SQUEEKY TAYLOR $40
9 FAWN CHOW $50
6 OTHER AXLE $100

Race 8 Sandown

1.Simonova
2.Total Rebellion
3.Solo Si
4.Thomeli Diamond
5.Bravo
6.Glamorous Keisha
7.Onya Jack
8.Worth Noting

* A few non winners on the track (3,4,7,8)
* 2 has had 44 starts on the track
* 6,7,8 will be in the second half of the field at the first turn
* 1 & 5 will be the lamp lighters up front
* Exotics around 1,2,5,8

Race 9 Sandown

1.Billy Banjo
2.Rapid Tide
3.Real Brew
4.Squeeky Taylor
9.Fawn Chow
6.Other Axle
7.Token Spinner
8.Dewana Sienna

* 2,6,8 coming back in distance
* 1,2,7 will be on the early pace
* 4,6,9 really struggling of late
* Alot of 1,2,7,8 numbers come up in placings at Sandown, Geelong & Cranbourne
* What looks obvious bet will be everyone's a winner!!! We all need a confidence boost exotics 1,2,7,8

SANDOWN Race 6

7 GIN LEE'S GEM $3.4
2 SONIC ROCKET $7
5 SHEEZA SMARTY $9
8 FAVALORO $9
1 BUSTINO $9
4 DYNA BERNT $12
6 KOOBLA KAHN $12
3 CROKE PARK $16

A bit harsh calling the #3 a non winner on the track.
It hasn't appeared here before.
I think you may find it leading today , and I feel it will mess up your Exotics.
Tough Race though.
Seems a tough meeting all round.

I'll try narrow it down a bit.
Flexi's
27 - 2718 - 2718 for $6 worth
27 - 2718 - 27183 for $4 worth

7-2,6-2,6-1,3,4,8,9
how's that for narrow?
(never happens?)

If #6 runs second or third here , I'll come to your home , and you can personally ram your tuba up my kyba!
Not trying to demean your selection system , just stating my findings of its chances.
Good luck with it though.

Nah, not doing the dog rating thing no more, too busy doing other things but the missus is out and I thought I'd look at them.
Actually I'm more worried about the #2 than the rest of them.

About your FF yesterday, I thought what you might do, not sure it's profitable mind, that you have one with the fav on top and other with the longest on top and only the less fancied ones for the rest?

Specially with 7 runners or less?

I rate the 4 and the 7 on top

race #6 3,4,8,7,1 not in order!
FF 1,4,3-1,4,3,8-field don't know what it costs? Prob more than it will pay?

I'm unsure what you are saying here.
is it the naked dash race?
And if it is , are you suggesting that I purchase a first 4 with the animal i consider as being the worst possible chance of saluting , on top?
If so , I can't do that.
I am not following a System.
I am studying form as best I can and to place an animal I consider as little chance of winning on top defies the reason for the study.

But what i can do and should be doing is to find out why my worst rated animal won , and see what I may have missed.

Yeah - I originally had Dyna Bernt on top.
Then I looked at its recent Form.
Has done nothing for around 8 starts.
And its record here is abysmal.
Perhaps we are confusing with Dyna Bert??

Can't remember which race it was, not following your thread that closely but the one you promised something if #2 runs 4th?

No I just think that in a small field anything can happen, and mostly does, so a small fun wager on the outsider might be in order.

I wouldn't do it but I don't even bet a quinella let alone a FF.

Ps you probably didn't miss anything, just the vagaries of racing, hence a "fun" bet as a saver?

These fun bets can be of Value if they are taken as an insurance.
My problem with it is I am a very tiny wager size Punter , and if I am betting 15 0r 20% of my total Outlay on a Race as a Fun Bet , then it becomes uneconomical.
Not that any of my Wagers are economical.
But I try.
Its like subsribing to a $100 a week selection service , and then investing $5 a race.
Any Profits made will soon be swallowed up by price of the service.
If only the anything can happen and usually does could be quantified , then there is your Edge.

Well you must make sure that you avoid as much as possible races where "anything" can happen.

To quantify it?
I can but don't bet on it and blame me, although it's proven, bet on the longest in any five horse race. Don't have stats on dogs, as I said I lost interest.

That's it, guaranteed profit but long outs.

To me betting exotics is already a gamble moeee, so why not expand on it?

I don't have the time nor the inclination, but I almost guarantee, that if I went back and analysed all your selections for a few months at least, I'm sure there would be a profitable situation betting to win and place only.

I said it before you pick them well but ...
Good luck anyway, get out of your hair now.

RACE 4

8 FIRE UP NATE $4.1
2 DESTINI WARRIOR $5.5
3 HOSTILE WARRIOR $7.3
1 COAL TO DIAMONDS $7.3
4 OILY $10
5 ZIPPING BLUE $12
7 ODDBALL $16
6 WILL CEE $16

OMG!!!
I must be doing something wrong.
I actually got a collect for a change.

Healesville 10

2 KING BENNY $2.9
4 EARLY RETURN $6
1 ARCTIC MASTER $5.8
6 NORTHERN GUNNA $10
7 FUEL PUMP $12
3 MADE TO SILENCE $20
8 TIZA KING $20
5 LIVELY MAJOR $25

Box Dog Name Final Times
1 arctic master 16.992
2 king benny 16.6950
3 made to silence 17.197
4 early return 16.977
5 lively major 17.124
6 northern gunna 16.983
7 fuel pump 17.027
8 tiza king 17.027
the #2 has a huge time advantage for the art, but for the first split is marginally behind the 4, 7 Moee

Perhaps I should follow my own advice?
My dilemna was that both #2 and #3 were Overlays , and i went for my higher selection.
Still collected on the Exotics.

Race 11
1 playmate bunny 17.203
2 hello flip 17.226
3 tirranna rex 17.240
4 strategy 16.988
5 premier magic 17.161
6 cooper's paddy 17.287
7 big fast fairy 17.243
8 dancing eskimo 17.280
#4 has best exposed form for hvl, followed by the #6,5,3

At what distance do you have the First Split?

Well it seems I found the race too difficult to bother with the First 4 - to my own detriment.

Its a shame i followed your suggestions instead of following your times posted.
The calculations had the Trifecta in exact Order and it paid well.
Oh well.

Box Dog Name
1 gifted jay jay 17.193
2 falls road man 17.216
3 white gold 17.304
4 regal diamonds 17.404
5 percy the punter 17.063
6 scorcher 17.153
7 scr scr
8 cruizin' callah 17.224
Not much between these on exposed hvl 1,3,4,5
I'm leaning towards the #5,1,3,4 very even race

2 questions.

Will you be home tonight?
And what size is your tube?

Obviously was one of those races where I shouldn't have stuck my butt in.

How about lunchtime tomorrow then moeee?

just joking, you concentrate too much on the obvious moeee and dismiss the capable ones out of hand.

Race 10

1 RONALD WEASLEY $3.2
8 FIVE STAR LIST $5.6
5 PROVEN STELLAR $5.9
6 POP HAND $6.9
7 EMOTION PRINCESS $6.9
4 VAN DER VAAT $20

By that I mean that in some races the obvious candidate for the top and second selection is a given, waste of time justifying them, more profitable to find place-getters at a good price to fill the card.

yes , i guess i must be , because I continually get animals arriving to destroy me.
I'll see if I can do something with 3 races at SALE tonight.

Today was a got some races exact and some races totally wrong.
Fortunately I was right more often than wrong.


The VOUCHER

Peak $8,957
Current $8,784
Loss -$173

Try wgl400 for the hvl300 and wgl460 for the hvl350 these distances provide the best indicators of all the vic splits for racing at hvl

Hate to state the bleeding obvious here but you got it in one!

That is the name of this game, and I can tell you, heaps of punters would be terrified out of their mind to bet on horses I do, but I get them right more often than not and make a very good living. (have to say I'm also a, now, silent partner of a business so there is no pressure)

Also the fact that I only have very few bets helps, used to bet from race one to the last, utter disaster!

The thing is Lomaca , I attack Punting as i might other things in Life.
I treat every race I study with the same procedure and I expect to get a similar result.
Not so much financially , but somewhat accurately.

I mean , if you were a painter , and you painted every house white , then you would feel a bit annoyed if a house dried an orange colour.
A tinge of yellow every now and then , but not orange.

Off to SALE.
Races 6 , 7 , 8

Sale Race 5
 

Box Dog Name split time Final Times
1 BIGENI'S GIFT 5.450 25.599
2 PREMIER MAGPIE 5.273 25.233
3 EXTRA SPECIAL 5.608 25.676
4 OMEGA JOSHUA 5.385 25.536
5 HEZA BLAZIN' 5.392 25.419
6 LIZ'S CONQUEST 5.363 25.599
7 MR. MACQUIRE 5.461 25.564
8 BRING IT HOME 5.436 25.573
The #1 has put in 1 really good run at Sale at it's 1st effort which is hidden in the figures.

Perhaps Woof43 , you could add a simple Block of cells in your program with the rounding to single decimal just used for posting.
Is very ugly to read to 3 decimal points.

Sale race 5 #4
Sale race 8 #3
Sale race 9 #1

Race 7
 

Box Dog Name split time Final Times
1 omega eli 5.365 25.281
2 gunda bale 5.209 25.392
3 fiery belle 5.328 25.221
4 inescapeable 5.455 25.228
5 let's go nellie 5.220 25.355
6 smurf's senorita 5.299 25.453
7 buckley rose 5.301 25.539
8 vittoria 5.261 25.390

The worry with the #2 is will it run the distance strong enough, after leading

SALE Race 6

6 LADY GREY $2.8
2 FAT WALLET $6.4
7 NEARLY MIDNIGHT $6.5
3 REVVED UP RHONDA $11
8 BORIS' HERO $14
4 STAR JACK $16
5 BOSS DOUGIE $16
1 TAABINGA DREAM $20

The Watchdog has the top selection Odds On.
It could well be a first or last proposition.