Autumn Blackbook Comp
 

Hi guys. I was actually hoping to get this comp started before last weekend's racing, but I wasn't back online until yesterday, so we'll start it now.

Unlike some of the previous stable comps, this isn't about earning the most prizemoney or winning big feature races or anything like that. The idea is simply to select a stable of horses which you think will win races over the coming weeks. It can be a million dollar group 1 race at Flemington or a midweek maiden at Gosford. Doesn't matter. If you've spotted a horse that you think is going to win soon at any Australian TAB meeting, then you can pick it. And it's all based on winning Unitab TAB dividends, so if you can nab a future longshot winner, then all the better.

Please read the rules carefully, and if there's something you don't understand, please ask.





Rule 1:
The competition will be held on Australian TAB meetings between Sat March 8 and Sat May 31.

Final entries close at midnight on Thursday March 20. If you haven't submitted your stable by then, you miss out. But if you want to choose horses which are racing this Saturday, you must submit your stable by this Thursday night (March 6).

Rule 2:
Each person must choose a stable of 10 horses to start with. After that, you can have a minimum of 8 and a maximum of 12 horses in your stable at any one time.

If you have the maximum 12 horses in your stable, then you can't add any more until one of them is deleted. If you have less than 12, then you can add new horses at any time that you like, provided that it is at least 2 days prior to their next start. In other words, if you want to add a horse which is racing on a Saturday, then you must do it by Thursday night. Otherwise that run won't count. And if your stable drops to less than the minimum number of 8 horses, you have a week to choose new horses to get the number back up. It's up to you to make sure you keep the number of horses in your stable between 8 and 12. I will give regular updates on the number of horses in each person's stable.

Rule 3:
Horses remain in your stable for 3 runs OR until they win, whichever comes first. Everybody has a starting bank of $1000 and horses are backed on the following basis: 1st run $10 win, 2nd run $20 win, 3rd run $30 win.

When your horse has either won or had it's 3rd run, you can actually decide to pick that horse again if you wish and they will start over again from run number 1. Otherwise, they are deleted from your stable and you can pick another horse to replace them. By the way, if you're unfortunate enough to pick a horse which is injured, spelled or retired before it's 3rd run, that's just bad luck I'm afraid. Unfortunately, you're stuck with it and you can't replace it. So keep that in mind.

Rule 4:
You can include a distance range qualification for any or all of your horses if you wish. Then they will only be backed when racing over that distance.

For instance, you might want to choose a stayer in your stable, but you don't want to back it when it's 1st up over 1200m or something. Well, if you want to, you can simply put beside your horse "1600-3200" or whatever and the horse will only be backed over those distances.

But please be careful with this though, as sometimes there are odd distances. For example, a 1400m race might be listed as 1410m or something like that, and a distance range of 1000-1400 would not include this race. So I would advise you to put 1000-1499 in cases like that just to make absolutely sure.






So, there you go. Simply post your 10 horse stable here. But remember, if you want to include horses racing this Saturday, you must submit your stable by Thursday night.

It would be great if this included Harness Racing too. There does not seem to be enough interest in that form of racing which is a great shame.

Hmmm, that's an interesting idea. I hadn't thought of that.

One problem I see is that pacers/trotters tend to run more often than gallopers do. That would give the harness tipsters an unfair advantage because they'd have more chances to win and more chances to include new runners.

So I'll have to say no to that request for now. Sorry about that.

I agree with your comment about the lack of interest in harness racing compared to the other codes though. I've certainly started taking more of an interest in it this year.

I wonder why ... Barney

Because I'm doing harness ratings. ;) :D

Okay I'll have a shot

1 Largo Lad
2 Camarilla
3 El Daana
4 Tramuntana
5 Translate
6 Benatar
7 Tuesday Joy
8 Real Strike
9 Burgeis
10 Littorio

I'll give it a go!

Sirmione
Zarita
Arapaho Miss
Weekend Hussler
Miss Fantabulous
Camarilla
Snipers Bullet
Fiumicino
Sugar Babe
Light Fantastic

how do you know which horses will be going for a spell?

Well, if you stick mainly to horses which have just basically started their campaigns (had 1 or 2 runs back from a spell) or which you know are being targetted at later races, then you should be okay. If you check out the articles on websites like Racenet and racingandsports, that'll probably give you a better idea as well.

Alright thanks. I hope I can find this information before Thursday night. Usually the Friday paper will have the weekend races, so I have to find a web site which has the fields before then.

We can elect horses from sydney, melbourne, brisbane, adelaide, perth right? I assume anywhere as long as the TAB is betting on that meeting.

You can find the final acceptances and form here.

http://www.rsb.net.au/Publishing/RI...eau/default.asp

All of Saturday's info will be available tomorrow, but there's already fields and form for the 3 big Melb races on there.

And there's also a stack of info on that website I mentioned called racingandsports.

And yeah, any meeting that Unitab is betting on is okay. If you stick to Bris, Syd, Melb, Adel and Perth, you'll be right.

Thanks.

We select 10 horses. Those 10 we can not get rid of unless they have run 3 races for the stable or have won. We can add two more after the first weekend. We can sack as many as we want as long as we always have a minimum of 8 horses in the paddock. Class of horse does not matter nor does the prize money associated with the race horses and entered into.

Is this all correct?

I would assume, Sportz, that you would give a table showing how many horses have raced

Entries closes at Midnight Thursday (EDST).

Yeah, that's all correct. And yes, I'll regularly post updates so that everybody knows what's going on.

As for the deadline, I'm in Qld, so I usually go by Qld time with these comps. So that'd be 1am down south.

Racing to win
mentality
Black minx
Sniper's Bullet
Banc de Fortune
carnero
In rehearsal
General Purple
Oxigenada
Megatic

1.Marching
2.Sonic Quest
3.Weekend Hussler
4.Gamble Me
5.Zapurple
6.Snipper's Bullet
7.Mentality
8.Hairy
9.Danerip
10.Famous Roman

Now I just got to find out if any of these are racing this weekend.

El Daana
Sunday Adieu
Millers Wheel
Regal Castanea
Nexgen
Starfish
Bashful Girl
Light Fantastic
Princess Coup
I Have No Fear

actually i'll have Real Strike OUT and Mutawaajid IN

I think they ALL are! Looks like a pretty good list.

Amelia's Dream
El Daana
Estee
Glowlamp
Hashasan
Hot Danish
Marching
Paratroopers
Sniper's Bullet
Sonic Quest

Tan Tat de Lago
Arapaho Miss
Coniston Gem
Sugar Babe
Occurrence
Gergis
Mega Hill
Racing to Win
Timely
Red Sea


sportz i just saw this post....is to late to get in for this weekend?

Well, it is really. But I'm going to be very generous and allow it, seeing as I've only started the thread this week and I hadn't listed all the stables yet.

Here they are. An asterisk means those horses are running tomorrow:

Chuck
1 Largo Lad *
2 Camarilla *
3 El Daana
4 Tramuntana
5 Translate
6 Benatar
7 Tuesday Joy *
8 Mutawaajid
9 Burgeis *
10 Littorio *
Bank:
$950.00

Goldcoaster
1 Arapaho Miss *
2 Coniston Gem *
3 Gergis *
4 Mega Hill *
5 Occurrence *
6 Racing To Win *
7 Red Sea *
8 Sugar Babe *
9 Tan Tat De Lago *
10 Timely
Bank:
$910.00

Makybe Diva
1 Bashful Girl *
2 El Daana
3 I Have No Fear *
4 Light Fantastic *
5 Millers Wheel *
6 Nexgen *
7 Princess Coup *
8 Regal Castanea *
9 Starfish *
10 Sunday Adieu *
Bank:
$910.00

Mr Quaddie
1 Danerip *
2 Famous Roman *
3 Gamble Me *
4 Hairy *
5 Marching *
6 Mentality *
7 Sniper's Bullet *
8 Sonic Quest *
9 Weekend Hussler *
10 Zapurple *
Bank:
$900.00

Sportz
1 Amelia's Dream
2 El Daana
3 Estee *
4 Glowlamp
5 Hashasan
6 Hot Danish *
7 Marching *
8 Paratroopers *
9 Sniper's Bullet *
10 Sonic Quest *
Bank:
$940.00

Try Try Again
1 Arapaho Miss *
2 Camarilla *
3 Fiumicino *
4 Light Fantastic *
5 Miss Fantabulous
6 Sirmione *
7 Sniper's Bullet *
8 Sugar Babe *
9 Weekend Hussler *
10 Zarita *
Bank:
$910.00




That's definitely it now as far as tomorrow's racing is concerned. Any stables submitted after this post will be too late, so I'd advise others to just wait till after the weekend and have a go then.

Sportz... thanks for that

i think Timely is racing in adelaide race 6 tomorrow unless he is scratched.

So it is. Thanks for that.

See, I had some trouble with the blackbook function I was using because your stable was submitted a bit late. So I had to go searching for all your horses. That's one of the reasons why I want people to submit their horses at least 2 days before the horses race. Otherwise it gets tricky for me and I might miss a runner.

Thanks for running this comp Sportz. I am excited!

Sorry this is late but I thought I'd give it a go.

Racing to Win
Charmana Star
Single Rose
Friendly Embrace
Blessed
Eskimo Queen
Leica Falcon
Woodland Jack
Doojah
Red Queen

I was thinking of having ago just haven't had the chance to even have a look at the sight since monday or tuesday ******** happens though

Sorry mate, but the horses running tomorrow won't count I'm afraid. :o

So why not wait until after this weekend's races and choose a stable then.

No worries.

you missed mine sportz ol mate
i posted it on wednesday

Sorry mate. No, I didn't miss your stable. I just forgot to include it in the post at the top of the page. Don't worry. All your horses are in the blackbook.

Geez, sorry mate. Hope you backed them all.

I did back RTW and Single rose.

Okay, here's the summary after the first day:


Try Try Again
1 Arapaho Miss - L
2 Camarilla - L
3 Fiumicino - L
4 Light Fantastic - W $2.40
5 Miss Fantabulous
6 Sirmione - W $4.00
7 Sniper's Bullet - L
8 Sugar Babe - W $1.90
9 Weekend Hussler - W $1.70
10 Zarita - W $3.50
Bank:
$1,045.00

Goldcoaster
1 Arapaho Miss - L
2 Coniston Gem - W $3.00
3 Gergis - L
4 Mega Hill
5 Occurrence - W $1.90
6 Racing To Win - W $5.70
7 Red Sea - L
8 Sugar Babe - W $1.90
9 Tan Tat De Lago - L
10 Timely - L
Bank:
$1,035.00

Mr Quaddie
1 Danerip - W $1.50
2 Famous Roman - L
3 Gamble Me - W $8.70
4 Hairy - L
5 Marching - L
6 Mentality - L
7 Sniper's Bullet - L
8 Sonic Quest - L
9 Weekend Hussler - W $1.70
10 Zapurple - L
Bank:
$1,019.00

Rabbitz
1 Banc De Fortune - L
2 Black Minx
3 Carnero - L
4 General Purple
5 In Rehearsal
6 Megatic
7 Mentality - L
8 Oxigenada
9 Racing To Win - W $5.70
10 Sniper's Bullet - L
Bank:
$1,007.00

Sportz
1 Amelia's Dream
2 El Daana
3 Estee - L
4 Glowlamp
5 Hashasan
6 Hot Danish - W $2.70
7 Marching - L
8 Paratroopers - L
9 Sniper's Bullet - L
10 Sonic Quest - L
Bank:
$967.00

Chuck
1 Largo Lad - L
2 Camarilla - L
3 El Daana
4 Tramuntana
5 Translate
6 Benatar
7 Tuesday Joy - L
8 Mutawaajid
9 Burgeis - L
10 Littorio - L
Bank:
$950.00

Makybe Diva
1 Bashful Girl - L
2 El Daana
3 I Have No Fear - L
4 Light Fantastic - W $2.40
5 Millers Wheel - L
6 Nexgen - L
7 Princess Coup - L
8 Regal Castanea - L
9 Starfish - L
10 Sunday Adieu - L
Bank:
$934.00



Now, remember that if your horse wins, you have to say whether you want to pick it again. Otherwise, it gets deleted from your stable.

And all the losers remain in your stable for 2 more runs (that's if they don't win next start of course).

And remember that you can't let your stable drop below 8 horses, so those guys up the top who had more than 2 wins, will definitely have to either replace those winners or pick them again.

The maximum number of horses you can have is 12, but I wouldn't be in a hurry to fill those last two spots. You don't want to be left with no room to move.

I'll start by saying that I'm going to pick Hot Danish again. Could be some more wins in store for her.

Alot more Sportz I have been a big fan of hers since her 1st trial she has never let me down, she can win anything she goes in I am glad to have a bit e/w sitting on her for the Doncaster at $35

Starting a week late but here goes

Anna Bek
Hashashan
Hot Danish
Largo Lad
Ma Ma Machine
Musket
Marching
Racing To Win
Sirmione
Tuesday’s Joy

i'll keep all mine thanks sportz

i'll give it a go sportz!

reann
grinstone
megatic
vecchia roma
Eremein
Musket
Shirl Pegasus
Gallant Tess

Minor spelling mistake--should be Hashasan

You need a couple more. I know the comp's already started, but you still have to start with 10 horses with your initial stable.