My Place Tips
 

I have been having success with a Place system (not another!). It is now subject to the Forum Curse but I'll still list them.

Taree R7 no.7 - Follow Orders
Kilmore R3 no.4 - Demand
Kilmore R8 no.2 - Jugah Belle.

A losing day yesterday - the first in a week. There are twelve selections today, I will give it a final go here if its a losing day.

Canterbury R7 no.1 - Captain venturi
Werribee R4 no.6 - Hester
Ipswich R2 no.1 - Alladins Lion
Ipswich R4 no.2 - Rejuvanate
Ipswich R8 no.2 - Mrs Morty
Gawler R1 no.12 - Ohsowise
Gawler R2 no.10 - Western Jester
Gawler R3 no.10 - Desert Traveller
Gawler R5 no.2 - A Feathered Tale
Albury R6 no.5 - My Marwina
Belmont R3 no.5 - Body Corporate
Belmont R7 no.11 - Gold Service.

Havin' a go !!
 

Michaelg

At least you are contributing to the forum. It is amazing the number of members who view the threads, but don't actually add their thoughts.... pity, because a little dialog helps us all.....

Maybe you could add why you think they are a good place chance...

Yours In Punting

Stix

Hi, Stix.

I base the selections roughly on the neurals. They mainly have to show good recent form and are not donkeys (I suppose this is a matter of opinion). A couple of good winners today ($7.00 and $11.60), but I only back them for a Place.

One selection today:

Wyong R6 no.5 - Ice Gold ($20 pre-post).

Michaelg can you post when Ice Gold is next in, was a pretty good run, only got it at $3.90 a place on S-tab which was a bit stiff, but i reckon it will close to breaking through next start.

Michaelg. I read your comments regarding your place supported horses winning and paying great dividends. It backs up what I have said in the post in the systems forum entitled "Level Stakes - Can't Win"

I'd be interested in hearing your views.

Cheers

Privateer

Hi, Privateer.

I think it all comes down to personal preference. If I back a horse each-way I usually have $1 x $3, but because I like to win every day (don't we all?) I prefer Place-Only due to the higher strike rate.

Rudolph, it paid $4.70 here in NSW, but I got it at $4.95 with IAS. It paid $6.50 with Unitab. I usually bet Place with IAS as the divvies generally seem to be higher than the TABs.

Twelve selections today:
Goulburn R1 no.12 - Khargosh
Goulburn R2 no.1 - Anniversary Prince
Goulburn R5 no.1 - Sir Spender
Goulburn R8 no.2 - Rubitbabe
M'brook R2 no.8 - Dakahill
M'brook R5 no.8 - Shades Of Steel
M'brook R7 no.1 - Lady Starstruck
M'brook R8 no.5 - Regrade
M'brook R10 no.3 - Medowie Jewel
Mildura R4 no.6 - Paddy Power
Mildura R5 no.5 - Shifting Sands
Townsville R6 no.10 - Luke Tomahawk

From yesterday's 11 selections (one selection was in an abandoned race), there were 7 placegetters paying a total of $12.90 for a small win.

Seven selections today:
Morphetville R1 no.10 - Lady With Attitude
Morphetville R7 no.6 - Raja Dancer
Gold Coast R1 no.3 - Good Solomon
Narrandera R6 no.1 - Paranoid Android
Echuca R2 no.2 - Flirtatious Toy
Echuca R10 no. 12 - Blow
Toowoomba R7 no.3 - Master Sterling

A return of $12.90 on a $11.00 outlay is a 17.27% win, Michael!! That figure, consistently, would do me any day.

true - percentagewise it was a very good result.

I have been having amazing results over the past week betting box trifectas on larger fields. Even box quinellas and First Fours are showing a profit. Out of interest these are the boxed flexi-trifectas I am having today.

Sydney
R6 nos. 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 8, 9, 10

Melbourne
R2 nos. 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 8, 10, 12
R4 nos. 1, 2, 3, 5, 6, 8, 9, 10, 11
R5 nos. 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 8, 9, 11
R7 nos. 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 11
R8 nos. 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9

Brisbane
R1 no3. 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 8, 11, 13
R4 nos. 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 9, 10 11, 12

The total outlay is $4,350 (I think).
Quinellas are $299.

If I can get the Adelaide races, I'll post the selections.

Not a good day yesterday - 3 placings from 7 selections for a return of $5.50.

Three selections today:
Hawkesbury R5 no.1 - Red Pier
Sun Coast R3 no.11 - Machi
Launceston R2 no.14 - Whiskey Woman

Another losing day yesterday. Of the six days I've posted, there have been 3 winning and 3 losing days. 20 placegetters from 37 races. Importantly, they are showing a 9% POT.

Three selections today;
Port Macquarie R4 no.6 - Alocasia ($13 pre-post)
Gilgandra R6 no.3 - Miss Class Cee
Gilgandra R7 no.8 - Dubious View.

There were two placegetters from the three selections yesterday for a return of $2.80 - a loss of $0.20.

Today's selections;
Ballina R7 no.2 - Prince Of Ashes
Kyneton R10 no.11 - cica Cica
Rocky R1 no.1 - Running Scared.

Yesterday there were two placegetters from three selections for a loss of $0.10. Still showing a profit since posting from Tuesday 19 July.

Five selections today:
Randwick R3 no.2 - Impala Bullet
Flemington R7 no.2 - Corporal Nediym
Balakalva R1 no.3 - Society Lane
Balaklava R4 no.15 - Time Zone
Belmont R6 no.1 - Just Looking

Three placegetters from five selections yesterday. In spite of that, it's still in profit but going backwards. However from today I'm changing the selection criteria and see how it goes...

Gosford R3 no.1 - Cruzado
Gosford R7 no.2 - Private Certifier
Bendigo R4 no.2 - Lord Lucan
Northam R6 no.1 - Mercifully

Well Done
 

Hey, you did pretty good today... $1.9 return by my calculations. I've never really been into the place betting but after seeing some results I may have to review my thoughts... Anyhow keep up the good work and good luck :)

Hi, Jorgo. Yes, it was a profitable day yesterday. Three of the four selections placed paying a total of $5.00 on NSW TAB. A good start to the new selection process. Let's hope it continues.

Four selections today.
Cranbourne R5 no.5 - Here To Win
Cranbourne R7 no.2 - Forest Knight
Gold Coast R3 no.1 - Sweet Venture
Gold Coast R8 no.1 - Winegrove.

A losing day yesterday. Only two placegetters from four selections paying $3.10.

If it bombs today I'll be going back to the drawing board.

Thirteen selections:
Rosehill R4 no.1 - Jeteye
Moonee Valley R3 no.9 - Honest Polly
Dombeen R1 no.4 - Generalissimo
Dombeen R5 no.1 - Argyle Lass
Dombeen R5 no.5 - Argenterie
Cheltenham R2 no.1 - Diamondminer
Cheltenham R4 no.4 - Burleigh
Cheltenham R7 no.5 - Bleveeka
Kembla R6 no.1 - Double Entendre
Belmont R3 no.1 - Universal Warrior
Belmont R3 no.9 - Smart Bazza
Belmont R7 no.4 - Blueish
Ballarat R6 no.6 - Wanaka

A disaster yesterday. However, because of an error the system threw up the wrong selections which I have now rectified. In fact there were 11 true selections for nine placings paying a total of $17.00 including Adelaide R1 no10 ($5.60).

Hopefully today will compensate and not crash.
Scone R3 no.3 - Subreilly
Sandown R3 no.2 - Point Made
Sun Coast R9 no.4 - Charioteer
Hobart R5 no.1 - A Dreamer
Kalgoorlie R1 no.5 - Hope And Glory
Kalgoorlie R2 no.14 - Sand George
Warracknabeal R7 no.2 - Windsox.

Yesterday there was a small win. Five of the seven seelctions placed for a return of $7.60.

Today's selections are:
Wagga R8 no.4 - Casual Dieu D'or
Forbes R5 no.10 - Holloway
Swan Hill R5 no.2 - Norm's Boy
Darwin R1 no.1 - Filamony
Darwin R1 no.3 - Bound By faith.

Yesterday three of the five selections placed, paying $5.80.

Interestingly, win bets have done quite well. On Sunday there were three winners from the seven selections paying $10.20, and yesterday there were two winners from the five selections paying $9.90.

Three selections today.
Coffs Harbour R4 no.3 - Strategic Plan
Coffs Harbour R6 no.3 - Langfibian
Bairnsdale R6 no.6 - Boortokoi Mustang ($16 pre-post)

One winner of $3.60 from the three selections yesterday. Two placegetters for $2.60. The main reason I included the unplaced horse was because it had a good record at the track - never again!

One selection today:
Belmont R2 no.2 - Interange.

I have been looking at horses that almost qualify for the system. Even though I don't have an accurate record, they have performed well. There is one such horse today:
Canterbury R7 no.2 - Loftily

Yesterday's selection was unplaced, however the almost qualifier won paying $2.30 and $1.40.

Today's selections are:
Ipswich R2 no.6 - Our heart Throb
Murray Bridge R2 no.1 - Dune Warrior
Murray Bridge R8 no.4 - Nowhere Else.

Two "almost qualifiers":
Coffs Harbour R2 no.3 - Hennscay
Ipswich R7 no.2 - Lipinski.

Not a good day yesterday. It's still in profit on Win betting so I'll still post.

hree selections today:
Mornington R1 no.6 - Zedavita
Mornington R7 no.1 - The Cetacean
Mackay R2 no.2 - Sequalo Buck

Almost system
Mackay R7 no.4 - Orrong.

E/W
 

Just curious if you have started each way betting or r ya stickin' to the place bets

Hi, part Time Punter.

Unfortunately I have only been backing them for a place. Both are in profit for win betting. If I had backed them to win they would have lost. I'll give them one more go...

Six selections today:
Randwick R3 no.1 - Break The barrier
Echuca R8 no.2 - Mandezvous
Armidale R3 no.4 - Stage Fright
Armidale R5 no.1 - Mr Shinjuku
Gold Coast R1 no.7 - Shy Hunter
Belmont R6 no.4 - Call me Henry

Almost system - six selections:
Randwick R6 no.10 - Imtops ($21 pre-post)
Morphetville R3 no.1 - Ouraja
Echuca R2 no.7 - Aunty Joy
Echuca R5 no.11 - Radiant Charm
Echuca R9 no.11 - My Georgia Girl
Toowoomba R7 no.7 - Open All Hours

A good result yesterday. From the six selections there were four winners paying a total of $14.80, and five placegetters paying $7.20.

Over the past seven days there have been 28 selections for eleven winners for a POT of 30%, and 18 placegetters for a LOT of 1%.

Five selections today:
Muswellbrook R3 no.9 - Deregulation
Ballarat R7 no.2 - High Academy
Gundagai R7 no.1 - Western Springs
Kalgoorlie R1 no.3 - Corporate Finale
Kalgoorlie R4 no.2 - Head West.

Not a good result yesterday. From the five selections there was only one winner paying $3.20, and two placings for a total of $4.40. I omitted W'bool R1 no.3 because it was a Hurdle. There was previous Hurdle a few days ago which I listed as a selection - it lost, so I omitted yesterday's race. It won paying $2.50 and $1.80. I can't win!!!

Two selections today.
Bathurst R4 no.4 - Mountain Of Light
Murwillumbah R4 no.3 - Lady Breakfast.

Alternative beeting plan....
 

What about backing them 1x3 or 1x4 (1unit Win 3 units place etc)?

"Over the past seven days there have been 28 selections for eleven winners for a POT of 30%, and 18 placegetters for a LOT of 1%".

Why compound the loss by having 3 or 4 times as much on the place?

Hi, Stix and Mark. I suppose it's a matter of personal preference - I like the higher strike rate with place betting. As racing is often not consistent it's possible that place betting might prove to be superior, or at least also show a profit. And as there has only been one week's betting, who knows...? I've begun 1 X 3 - hopefully both win and place will be profitable.

From yesterday's two selections there was one winner of $1.80, and both placed for a return of $2.40.

Three selections today.
Taree R9 no.4 - Anitalyn
Rocky R1 no.3 - Equitant
Rocky R5 no.9 - Built Like Clint.

Not a good result yesterday. Three selections for one winner of $3.20 and one place of $1.30.

I have slightly changed the selection criteria. It would have eliminated: yesterday's two losers; unchanged on Monday; on Sunday the winner of $3.20 and the three losers also would have gone, and on Saturday the only loser. So from today I'll list the selections from the new sysytem, and hope...

Sandown R1 no.3 - Classic Benbarra.
Belmont R1 no.1 - Interange
Belmont R4 no.3 - Noble Pak
Belmont R5 no.3 - Mexican Mist
Belmont R6 no.3 - Cupiditias.

Not a bad result today MG...good work mate...

Yes, well done, Michael.

Yes, it was a good result yesterday. From the five selections there were three winners paying a total of $9.60, and all five selections placed paying $7.90. Hopefuly it'll continue.

Three selections today.
Wyong R4 no.2 - Philatelist
Townsville R4 no.5 - Bonds Girl.
Northam R2 no.8 - Classy Business.

Great work again mate. Three out of three.

Using a staking plan, win only to back them, would have resulted in a three unit loss today.If you are confident in the selection process then u can outlay more backing them place only:)

Hi, Kiwi. Unfortunately it was only two out of three - Philatelist was unplaced. I don't know what happened with it, I did not listen to the race.

From yesterday's three selections, one of them won paying $4.00, and the total place was $3.30.

Two selections today.
Scone R2 no.1 - Rostrum
Scone R6 no.15 - Kandinski. (I don't understand how this can be a selection, but...)

If it helps Kandinski was a poor selection jockey wise.Check the Virtual Form Guide he has an overall windx showing:

01/08/05 to 10/08/05 17 1 0 1 5.9 11.8 10.6
Total 2418 93 129 170 3.8 16.2 36.3
Last 100 100 7 3 6 7.0 16.0 33.2

The 10.6, 36.3, and 33.2 figures indicate a jockey in very poor form.