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wesmip1 21st February 2006 09:11 PM

Wesmip1's new system test
 
Guys,

Thought it might be time to trail a new system on the board which I have been monitoring for the last few weeks. Time to trial it publicly so it can fall flat and I can get back to monitoring my bets from my usual systems.

Tips for tommorrow are :
Hawksberry Race 8 - Cascadia
Murrary Bridge Race 13 - Mytilini Miss
Murrary Bridge Race 3 - Hurricane Gaze
Murrary Bridge Race 8 - Go Harvey
Launceston Race 1 - The Mighty West

I'll try and keep these posted for a month.

Good Luck.

Imagele 21st February 2006 11:03 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by wesmip1
Guys,

Thought it might be time to trail a new system on the board which I have been monitoring for the last few weeks. Time to trial it publicly so it can fall flat and I can get back to monitoring my bets from my usual systems.

Tips for tommorrow are :
Hawksberry Race 8 - Cascadia
Murrary Bridge Race 13 - Mytilini Miss
Murrary Bridge Race 3 - Hurricane Gaze
Murrary Bridge Race 8 - Go Harvey
Launceston Race 1 - The Mighty West

I'll try and keep these posted for a month.

Good Luck.

Just a question that intrigues me.
Why trial a system on this forum.?
What's the point?
Does it help the system's chances?
Is anyone going to support these selections from a trial?
Trial it for 12 months privately and then post selections in the event it's any good.

wesmip1 22nd February 2006 07:25 AM

Imagele,

If I trial a system for 12 months and it is good I won't be posting the tips here I will be using it as per my last few systems. ( 2 other systems I use produce consistent profits).

Posting it here makes a slightly better test as it is public. By being public it is harder for me to tamper with the system and/or results. To me that is worthwhile for at least a month to see if the results are consistent.

As far as if people follow the tips, I realy don't care its up to you. I am just putting $5 on each tip as well while I trial the system.

Good Luck.

Stix 22nd February 2006 10:06 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by wesmip1
Imagele,

If I trial a system for 12 months and it is good I won't be posting the tips here I will be using it as per my last few systems. ( 2 other systems I use produce consistent profits).

Posting it here makes a slightly better test as it is public. By being public it is harder for me to tamper with the system and/or results. To me that is worthwhile for at least a month to see if the results are consistent.

As far as if people follow the tips, I realy don't care its up to you. I am just putting $5 on each tip as well while I trial the system.

Good Luck.
Good luck Wesmip1 :)

wesmip1 22nd February 2006 02:55 PM

All,

Here are the results .... 2 scratchings today but I would expect some each day as I do the form analysis the night before. So from 3 races that is 2 winners and a second.

Murrary Bridge Race 13 - Mytilini Miss 2nd - $2.30
Murrary Bridge Race 3 - Hurricane Gaze WIN $2.00 / $1.30
Launceston Race 1 - The Mighty West WIN $3.20 / $1.80

Hawksberry Race 8 - Cascadia -- SCRATCHED
Murrary Bridge Race 8 - Go Harvey --- SCRATCHED

Races : 3
Wins : 2
Outlay : $30
Return : $52
Profit : $22

Hope you made some cash from it.

Chuck 22nd February 2006 03:58 PM

nope, but well done - a good start!

Ade 22nd February 2006 04:22 PM

Fantastic effort wesmip1. Looks good....2 out of 3 winners is great!

Keep it up...interesting to see your next tips.

wesmip1 22nd February 2006 08:57 PM

After looking at my account today I found I missed putting up here all the bets yesterday (I missed 1 ). I won't count it as it wasn't posted but I was happy to see it won paying $2.90.

If people are interested in how this system works I will give a bit of an overview of it without giving it all away. My main methods that I have been using are all centered on common sense rules. I don't think weight is a big factor, I don't think barrier position is a big factor. I do believe that conistency and fitness are very large factors. These selections look for consistent horses (placings and/or wins and beaten lengths) who appear to be fit ( running good times, being near the leader, finishing hard, etc ).
I don't take too much notice of the trainer or jockey either.

Its up to you whether you agree or disagree on the above but I find it works and makes a profit ( even if you get skinny odds sometimes).

Good Luck with it. I'll post my selections in the next hour or so after I place my bets.

wesmip1 22nd February 2006 09:09 PM

All,

Here are the selections for today. I am very confident in the Mackay selections but not so sure on the Queanbeyan selection. Anyway we will see how it goes.
If I had to pick only 1 race to bet it would be Mackay Race 3.

Mackay Race 2 - Roses Of Jester
Mackay Race 3 - Middle East
Queanbeyan Race 4 - Jelani

Good Luck

racingnovice 22nd February 2006 09:34 PM

Wesmip grats on a good day :). Im testing a neural system and boy the selections are rather close lol. Example tomorrow ive got 4 sels 3 of them are the same as what you have. Maybe we are onto roughly the same idea lol.

wesmip1 22nd February 2006 10:45 PM

racingnovice,

I'll keep an eye on your tips. Might save me looking through all the races (and doing the calculations) if your tips are close enough. Might need to look at the neurals and see how they match up.

Thanks for the heads up.

gizzard 23rd February 2006 12:33 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by wesmip1
All,

Here are the selections for today. I am very confident in the Mackay selections but not so sure on the Queanbeyan selection. Anyway we will see how it goes.
If I had to pick only 1 race to bet it would be Mackay Race 3.

Mackay Race 2 - Roses Of Jester
Mackay Race 3 - Middle East
Queanbeyan Race 4 - Jelani

Good Luck
You didn't mention 'going' in your comments about your method. It will be interesting to see what happens at Mackay where the going is currently 'heavy'.

Stix 23rd February 2006 01:04 PM

[QUOTE=gizzard]You didn't mention 'going' in your comments about your method. It will be interesting to see what happens at Mackay where the going is currently 'heavy'.[/QUOTE]

..... not much....... she's been called off ! :D

wesmip1 23rd February 2006 01:14 PM

Stix,

Just saw that .. thanks for the update.

wesmip1 23rd February 2006 08:55 PM

Update results :

Mackay Race 2 - Roses Of Jester - ABANDONED
Mackay Race 3 - Middle East - ABANDONED
Queanbeyan Race 4 - Jelani - Lost

Races : 4
Wins : 2
Outlay : $40
Return : $52
Profit : $12

wesmip1 23rd February 2006 09:23 PM

Tips for Friday:

Albury Race 1 - She's Rollin'
Albury Race 2 - Steal The Thunder
Albury Race 3 - Jetstorm
MUswellbrook Race 1 - Gun Bird
Muswellbrook Race 5 - Attest To Me
Sale Race 1 - Il Favorito

Good Luck

wesmip1 24th February 2006 08:41 PM

Results:

Albury Race 1 - She's Rollin' - 3rd $2.00
Albury Race 2 - Steal The Thunder - WIN $1.90 / $1.20
Albury Race 3 - Jetstorm - 2nd $1.40
Muswellbrook Race 1 - Gun Bird - 4th
Muswellbrook Race 5 - Attest To Me WIN $2.70 / $1.20
Sale Race 1 - Il Favorito - WIN $2.30 / $1.10

I was a bit disapointed in Jetstrom as he should have won easily.

Anyway a profit for the day is showing....

Races : 10
Wins : 5
Outlay : $100
Return : $121
Profit : $21

wesmip1 25th February 2006 08:50 AM

Saturday

Caulfield Race 4 - God's Own
Gold Coast Race 8 - Kanetoshi Millions
Kembla Grange Race 7 - Proud Reign
Toowoomba Race 1 - Gunzoff
Toowoomba Race 6 - Shale Shaker
Toowoomba Race 7 - Seek A Warning
Warracknabeal Race 1 - Wistik

wesmip1 25th February 2006 09:26 PM

Results:

Caulfield Race 4 - God's Own 2nd
Gold Coast Race 8 - Kanetoshi Millions WIN $6.30
Kembla Grange Race 7 - Proud Reign 2nd
Toowoomba Race 1 - Gunzoff 2nd
Toowoomba Race 6 - Shale Shaker WIN $2.80
Toowoomba Race 7 - Seek A Warning 3rd
Warracknabeal Race 1 - Wistik WIN $3.50

Well an ok day overall with all horses placing and win betting showing a profit. 3 Winners from 7 races isn't great though. Would have been nice to see those 2nds come in first place instead.

Anyway a profit for the day is showing....

Races : 17
Wins : 8
Outlay : $170
Return : $247
Profit : $77

Ade 25th February 2006 10:02 PM

Fantastic effort mate. Looks like your system is really working like a charm. Keep it up mate, its great!

racingnovice 26th February 2006 12:05 AM

Another good day wesmip hope it continues :)

wesmip1 26th February 2006 07:42 AM

Sunday Tips

Ballarat Race 3 - Corrupt Judge
Wyong Race 1 - The Duckster
Pakenham Race 2 - Joeinsky
Orange Race 1 - Futuristic Dreams



Some other horses which were close to making the tips (But didn't) included:
Launceston Race 5 - Novarosa
Orange Race 4 - Missfox
Pinjarra Race 4 - Sweet Record


Good Luck.

wesmip1 26th February 2006 12:31 PM

Not such a great day today...

Ballarat Race 3 - Corrupt Judge - LOST
Wyong Race 1 - The Duckster WIN $2.40
Pakenham Race 2 - Joeinsky - 4th
Orange Race 1 - Futuristic Dreams -SCRATCHED

Corrupt Judge went too hard too early and died before it even hit the straight. Joeinsky should have done better. It ran near the lead all race and couldn't catch anything in the straight.

Races : 20
Wins : 9
Outlay : $200
Return : $271
Profit : $71

wesmip1 26th February 2006 04:44 PM

Mondays tips...

Port Macquarie Race 3 - Public Enemy
Warrnambool Race 4 - Echo Softly

Good Luck.

wesmip1 27th February 2006 02:57 PM

Results :

Port Macquarie Race 3 - Public Enemy - LOST
Warrnambool Race 4 - Echo Softly - WIN $10.10

Races : 22
Wins : 10
Outlay : $220
Return : $372
Profit : $152

Stix 27th February 2006 03:08 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by wesmip1
Results :

Port Macquarie Race 3 - Public Enemy - LOST
Warrnambool Race 4 - Echo Softly - WIN $10.10

Races : 22
Wins : 10
Outlay : $220
Return : $372
Profit : $152

Well Done Wes......

wesmip1 27th February 2006 05:47 PM

Thanks Stix,
Results are going well..

Only one selection for tommorrow

Kyneton Race 8 - Viva La Covert

Good Luck.

wesmip1 28th February 2006 04:24 PM

Kyneton Race 8 - Viva La Covert - LOST
Races : 23
Wins : 10
Outlay : $230
Return : $372
Profit : $142

wesmip1 1st March 2006 09:52 PM

All,

Did get to post last night but the only selections was :

Wagga Race 5 Mama See - 2nd


Races : 24
Wins : 10
Outlay : $240
Return : $372
Profit : $132

wesmip1 1st March 2006 09:57 PM

Thursdays Selections :

Gosford Race 2 - Speed On Speed
Gosford Race 3 - Gilded Grace

Good Luck.

wesmip1 2nd March 2006 07:14 PM

Results:

Gosford Race 2 - Speed On Speed - 2nd
Gosford Race 3 - Gilded Grace - 3rd

These placings are killing me

Races : 26
Wins : 10
Outlay : $260
Return : $372
Profit : $112

wesmip1 2nd March 2006 07:25 PM

Fridays Tips :

Canberra Race 1 - Moorings On Parade
Hawksberry Race 3 - Cascadia
Sandown Race 1 - 2 Ejaad
Ipswich Race 2 - Mr Clang
Tatura Race 5 - Swit

Good Luck.

wesmip1 4th March 2006 03:06 PM

Oops,

Forgot to post tips today ....

Results for yesterday were :

Canberra Race 1 - Moorings On Parade WIN $2.50
Hawksberry Race 3 - Cascadia LOST
Sandown Race 1 - 2 Ejaad LOST
Ipswich Race 2 - Mr Clang SCRATCHED
Tatura Race 5 - Swit 2nd

Races : 30
Wins : 11
Outlay : $300
Return : $397
Profit : $97

wesmip1 4th March 2006 03:07 PM

Here are (or were) todays tips :

Morphettville Race 1 - Jeune's Edge
Rosehill Race 2 - Sugarbomb
Caulfield Race 4 - Follow The Till
Newcastle Race 3 - Frisco Agogo
Armidale Race 3 - Leenahorn
Caulfield Race 5 - All Bar One
Mildura Race 5 - Joke Brother
Ascot Race 6 - Wave Rock
Toowoomba Race 6 - I'm So Blessed
Toowoomba Race 7 - Stirling

A bit late sorry.

wesmip1 4th March 2006 07:49 PM

Results for today :

Morphettville Race 1 - Jeune's Edge - 3rd
Rosehill Race 2 - Sugarbomb - LOST
Caulfield Race 4 - Follow The Till - WIN $3.50
Newcastle Race 3 - Frisco Agogo - WIN $2.60
Armidale Race 3 - Leenahorn - 2nd
Caulfield Race 5 - All Bar One - WIN $4.50
Mildura Race 5 - Joke Brother - WIN $3.00
Ascot Race 6 - Wave Rock - WIN $2.70
Toowoomba Race 6 - I'm So Blessed WIN $8.90
Toowoomba Race 7 - Stirling - 3rd

Today pulled in $152 profit from $10 bets. Looks like it is my shout at the pub tonight.

Overall Results:
Races : 40
Wins : 17
Outlay : $400
Return : $649
Profit : $249

wesmip1 4th March 2006 07:54 PM

Before I forget again here are Sundays selections :

Balakava Race 4 - Super Sovereign
Balakava Race 8 - Go Harvey
Sunshine Coast Race 2 - O'tonda
Sunshine Coast Race 7 - Little Punc
Devonport Race 1 - Reunification
Gosford Race 1 - Hy Spur
Gosford Race 4 - Goldtown
Gosford Race 8 - Mindreader
Tamworth Race 4 - Forest Sports

Chuck 5th March 2006 01:51 PM

3 from 3 so far today Wesmip, looks like another great day!

wesmip1 5th March 2006 06:40 PM

Chuck,

Started so promising then hit a heap of placings ....
Balakava Race 4 - Super Sovereign - 2nd
Balakava Race 8 - Go Harvey - 3rd
Sunshine Coast Race 2 - O'tonda - WIN $6.60
Sunshine Coast Race 7 - Little Punc - 2nd
Devonport Race 1 - Reunification -SCRATCHED
Gosford Race 1 - Hy Spur - WIN $2.30
Gosford Race 4 - Goldtown - WIN $1.60
Gosford Race 8 - Mindreader - LOST Unplaced
Tamworth Race 4 - Forest Sports - SCRATCHED

Both Super Sovereign and Little Punc had their chances. Super Soverign lost by the barest of margins and got done by the bob on the line. Little Punc had its nose in front with about 100m to go and had every right to win but seemed to slow down for the last 50m.

A profit today anyway.

Overall Results:
Races : 47
Wins : 20
Outlay : $470
Return : $754
Profit : $284

wesmip1 5th March 2006 07:01 PM

Selections for Monday:

Coffs Habbour Race 4 - River Born
Muswellbrook Race 1 - Ulrika
Muswellbrook Race 4 - Fairytale Dancer

Good Luck.

wesmip1 5th March 2006 07:25 PM

For those that like to bet on the weekends so far this trial system has produced the following in the last 2 weeks:

Races : 27
Wins : 13
Places : 22 ( 13 winners, 6 seconds, 3 thirds ))
Total Outlay ($10 bets) : $270
WIN Return : $507
PLACE Return : $375
WIN Profit % : 87%
PLACE Profit % : 38%

Just taking Saturday has been even better :

Races : 17
Wins : 9
Places : 15
Total Outlay ($10 bets) : $170
WIN Return : $378
PLACE Return : $263
WIN Profit % : 122%
PLACE Profit % : 54%

Of course I expect these results to fall back considering it is only 2 weeks of live results but it has been a nice start to trial of the system.

Good Luck.


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