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SR4 2:20p.m.

Did anyone else see anything questionable about a certain ride in this race?
Mmmmmmm..............!

I live in the country so the city big boys say I am not allowed to watch Syd And Vic racing.... incompetent fools...

Yeah, I sympathise with you for that fiasco and let's hope it is resolved soon.
However, in the race in question there must be doubts about the ride. Yet, I am sure that when this horse runs again, one of the "expert media analysts," (isn't that an oxymoron), will say that hackneyed phrase: "forget it's last run".
I am starting a campaign today:
We will not accept the phrase: "forget the run....", from here on, any commentator using this hackneyed phrase should donate $10 to a children's charity as a penalty for lack of originality.
Anyone agree that this excuse is overused and should be deleted from any media commentary?

Cheers.

I live in Sydney and we are not allowed either --- unless we shell out big bikkies --- or go to the local TAB!

Merriguy,

Surely you can access TVN's service for $12 per year?
Check their website.

SR6 3:40p.m.EDST:

Funny that, the well fancied runner breaks though the barrier prior to the start and then runs down the track, traversing it's way through "traffic" and running unplaced.
When will the powers that be realise that public confidence/turnover will diminish if these events are constantly being tolerated?

I'd have been more concerned with the ride on Malcolm there that was a bit fishy certainly wasn't the most conviction in the ride and still almost got there thankfully he didn't as my money was on Mindreader but it looked asthough Malcolm should have won.

Yeah, Raw Instinct,

That horse was ridden by an apprentice, maybe he has a lot more to learn.

Cheers.

Could I encourage other forum contributors to express their views regarding what they perceive to be bad or ill judged rides by some of our supposed top jockeys.
These characters may be having a "bad" day but it could cost we punters several $k. When are these individuals going to realise that they live in the real world and their "mistakes" may cost battling punters many thousands of dollars?

Cheers

Xanadu I agree it was ridden by an apprentice but I just felt the ride lacked alot of power and want to win and it isn't like the guy is new to the game he does ride alot in town.

Yeah, raw,

I agree that maybe the rider lacked experience or percieved ability due to his tender years but that is no excuse.
He is on a horse carrying potentially $100k's in punters' money so we expect an appropriate ride-if he fails to deliver he should be held to account for his ineptitude. However, in real life are they?..............no!

Cheers.

Well we have to start somewhere and after a particularly horrendous experience with a particular runner in Brisbane in October last year, I vowed to never bet in Qld again. Since then I have held true to this vow and I can assure you that my POT has improved incredibly.
MESSAGE: do not bet in Qld and you may have prospects of winning in the long-run.

Cheers.

If anyone needed further evidence of the pitfalls of betting in Qld they need look no further than Ipswich R4 today(19.7.06). A well fancied runner gets out of the barrier in a reasonable position then finds itself in third last place. At about the 8oom it is ridden hard to regain ground on the leaders then goes"via the cape" on the home turn before tiring and finishing about midfield.
Unlucky run.....?
I will watch with interest what the stewards have to say.
As I have reiterated on numerous occasions....if you choose to wager in Qld then you do so at your own risk. As for me.......leave me out....I'll do my wagering mainly in Melbourne where the competitive nature of racing and the accompanying value for punters provides the bettor a fair chance of returning a profit.

Cheers.

After a race in Melbourne today when a short-priced runner ran unplaced a prominent trainer was interviewed and stated that he was not necessarily disappointed with it's rather inglorious run as it had "finished big" after it's race was over.
My question is this......should horses be allowed to start if they may not be in premium racing order? I believe they should be fit enough to perform at their optimum level rather than using these races as "conditioning runs" generally at our expense......ie the long suffering betting public. Alternatively, perhaps the public should be informed that a particular horse is not at it's best(ie. blood counts) and maybe then they can make their own informed decision whether that particular runner should be avoided as a betting prospect. Is confidence in racing diminished when such things occur, particularly when you consider that the amounts invested on each race are in the 100k's if not the $M's?
Why aren't blood counts made available to the betting public.....maybe it would be too valuable of a tool for the public to have at their disposal?
Mmmm.....makes you wonder....any thoughts on this matter?

Cheers.

MR7(4:15p.m.EST) Did anyone else have grave concerns regarding the riding tactics employed in this race?
Did connections alert Stewards to this style of racing? Were the public duly informed?
Hmmm....!
Any comments?

Cheers.

Euchuca R7(31.7.06),

A supposed top jockey hid his mount well back in the field and it gave nothing!
I suspect that the rider thought he had missed any scrutiny.....well.....guess what?.....your ride wasn't missed?

SR3(2.8.06-2:22p.m.EST) There was a questionable ride in this race which should be obvious to any form student. As I have mentioned many times previously, I study jockeys' form as well as studying equine form.
I have been scrutinising this bloke's "form" for some time now and I think it is time he had a "holiday" or maybe a stint in Hong Kong. I am sure the officials there would soon "rectify" some of this rider's "bad" habits.

Cheers.

SR5 today(3:33p.m.EST),
Did you see this race?
Comments such as "they went mad out in front"; "they put it on for the backmarkers";it was put on for him today," were duly noted by the poor suffering betting public!
Forget form......follow the money!

Cheers.

SR6(9.8.06)
Did anyone else have reservations about the riding tactics displayed in this race?
A runner shoots to the lead, racing at such a pace that it is inevitable that it would capitulate and "setting it up" for the backmarkers to finish off the race.
You're kidding!

We know how Sydney racing operates.

Ballarat R9:

Did anyone else have reservations regarding the riding tactics on some well-fancied runners in this race?(The winner paid $50.9w$8.4plNSW)!
Hmmmmm......

MR6

You make your own mind up!

SR6,
Trifecta: $1748.60
First4 : $14,260.70
Hmmmm.....you figure it out....!
Any form students get amongst the place-getters?

MR4,

Did anyone have reservations regarding the running of this race?
Coincidentally, soon after, Gold Coast race4 resulted in:
Gold Coast Trots:
R4 Somethings Fishy WON $2.9w$1.5plNSW.
Hmmmmm,,,,almost an omen tip!

Cheers.

HawkesburyR5,

They're kidding.......!

Set a good pace ....perfectly setting it up for the swoopers...!
Come on.....!
When is ICAC going to be involved in NSW racing?
Come on you officials...appoint an ICAC officer to the steward's panel asap.
Any other punters agree?...pleases express your views!

Cheers.

MR8,

Did anyone have reservations regarding the ride of a particular jockey in this race?

Seeya!

SR3,
Favourite "misses" the start and runs wide...come on...what chance does it realistically have...?
That's racing I suppose?
How come it always happens (dis)proportionately to the favourite......you work it out!

Cheers

jeez, don't you have anything positive to say about this racing caper??

Don't need too many clues to know that it is not the 'tone' of this thread.....

However, in X's defence have a look at his other threads.... you'll see he loves it.... secretly married to one G Childs i think... :D

Goodonya Stix,

In response to Raven's observation.....maybe you have answered your own question.
That is.......maybe......just maybe.......I am being intentionally provocative to elicit the very response which you have so graciously provided.
Yes....Greg Childs has provided me with some of life's luxuries due to his undeniable professionalism and ability......and may it continue!
Have a good one!

Cheers.

MR6,
You're kidding...a certain horse goes out to a big margin but no swoopers finish on....give me a break!

Cheers.

Whilst I am very concerned regarding the long-term viability of horse-racing in all affected states, I also harbour deep concerns in regards to some of the results in recent meetings.
The plethora of long-priced winners has astounded me and even after incisive form-study/review, the figures just don't add up!
I hope that some of the "battlers" in the industry will not attempt to extricate themselves from their own financial woes by depriving the betting public of a "fair go!"
Because......if some attempt to do so...then all industry players will see a lack of confidence in the product presented to them and they will "vote with their feet" and stop or at least diminish their betting activities-me included!
I'll leave it up to you-anyone else witnessed/suffered the apparent plethora of long-priced winners lately which appear to have no form credentials?

Cheers.

yeah a shocker at bendigo today...my little rating system has never gone so bad!!

Yeah suds, I know how you feel mate.
Isn't it an incredible coincidence that on the very weekend that the big "quaddie" promotion is launched the dividend for some lucky punter(s) amounted to $174,721.50NSW!
I'm certainly not suggesting anything other than it will generate massive publicity for a product currently being promoted in "wall-to-wall" advertisements in all forms of the media.....go figure............!
The authorities are desperate to stimulate betting turnover in the wake of the EI tragedy but let me ask you....at what cost to the hard-core, cynical everyday punters who, in reality, keep this industry ticking over!
I, personally, will be reviewing my betting activities to determine if it is worth my while to invest in a product which I am losing faith in as every day goes by(refer to an earlier post).
Any other disgruntled punters out there who may wish to express/share their views.

Cheers.

Bendigo R5,

Did any form students have reservations regarding the riding tactics in this "race?"
The leading contenders go hard in front presenting a perfect opportunity for a "battling" rider to come from last to beat them all!!!
What about the rider in the red cap "cuddling" his mount to the line with no apparent intention of it finishing in the finish!
Come on....!!!!!!!!!!!!
The racing officials have let the betting public down badly and as I have said previously...they do so at their own peril!
They will only succeed in alienating the true betting public..ie..those punters who wager every day...when are they going to wake up?
As betting turnover diminishes due to a lack of confidence in the way racing is being handled who will be held responsible?
You figure it out!
I am disgusted!

MR10,
As the commentator mused: "it was a 1200M race but the favourite must have covered 1600-1800m.
You figure it out..

Cheers.

One country Jockey I used to know told me he made more money out of losing races than he ever did winning them!

Yeah crash,

I have heard similar stories...there was an ****-jockey interviewed some years ago who admited he would "pull" horses up if the price/reward was right...!
When is an ICAC official going to be added to the steward's panel?
They do an exemplary job in HK!

Cheers.

MR7,

Well what a coincidence....the first leg of the Quaddie(which has been promoted "ad nauseum" by the TAB, produces a long-shot winner at $23.2wNSW....go figure......!
That's fine but as I have stated on numerous occasions I also study jockeys, their riding styles and vigour shown etc.
Guess what?...if any other form student studied this aspect then they too would be very concerned with some of the rides of other hoops in this race which allowed Shinn on the eventual winner to gain a four lengths lead at the home turn.....come on.....get real!
I'm sure that the prospect of a large divvie will attract an increase in betting turnover from the general public......but at what longterm cost to the industry as the "professional" ranks depart due to dubious happenings?
I'll leave it up to you....!

Cheers.

Aaaaaah,

MR6 11 Sirmione WON $78.1w$12.6plNSW,
the "Practice Stakes" has lived down to it's reputation once again. Look at the recent form of the winner!
I ask the question: "Is this fair to the racing/punting public......!!!?"
I'll guarantee that the "Royalty of Racing" will not be required to provide an explanation for this dramatic form improvement.
You make your own mind up!

Cheers.

No wonder there is a continual "leaking" of the public's betting dollar away from racing, be it horses, dogs or the "red-hots" to other forms of gambling such as casino-style betting, scratchies, pokies..etc!
Roulette wheels, cards and betting chips cannot speak can they?
If the authorities think that such results as we have witnessed today, provide them with massive "feel-good" publicity then they are only fooling themselves and is only a short-term "fix!"
What about the times the big crowds aren't there and the industry relies on the everyday punters who are realistically the backbone of the horse-racing/wagering industry? If those punters' confidence has been undermined they may turn to other options....will they come back to racing?...I pose that question!

Cheers.