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partypooper 4th May 2006 02:11 AM

To the boss
 
Just wondered how the 418% profit is going these days????

Neil 4th May 2006 11:32 AM

Our Gold Specials gave back 47 units in April. That is insignificant compared to winning 417 units on the last two Saturdays in March.

We identify the right horse in the right race. We then only back it at the right odds. This means a potent selection and betting method.

Following an outstanding 42% POT for the six months ended February we are on track for more big winning months ahead.

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Results are based upon using top fluctuation bookmaker odds to determine whether a selection was a bet and the odds obtained.

partypooper 4th May 2006 09:21 PM

That's really good Neil, glad to hear that it's going well.

monkeyinjapan 4th May 2006 11:52 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Neil
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Results are based upon using top fluctuation bookmaker odds to determine whether a selection was a bet and the odds obtained.



Just a quick qustion on this -- since you suggest a minimum price to bet, and punters can't know if that price can be obtained until after the bookies have posted the odds for the upcoming race, wouldn't it be more realistic to use starting prices rather than best fluc for your results?

Monkeyinjapan

Neil 5th May 2006 03:14 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by monkeyinjapan
....since you suggest a minimum price to bet, and punters can't know if that price can be obtained until after the bookies have posted the odds for the upcoming race, wouldn't it be more realistic to use starting prices rather than best fluc for your results?

Monkeyinjapan

I don't believe it is realistic for punters to wait to see the bookies' odds, then wait until the race is just about to start to back the selection at starting price, while ignoring better odds prior to that.

On our understanding even Punter's Choice use top fluctuation odds to monitor tipping services when minimum odds are provided with selections.

We see no reason to downramp our results.

Top fluctuation odds or even better are easy to obtain these days for punters serious about maximising their returns.

IAS has accepted TF bets with minimum odds provisos. TF odds are given. If the minimum odds are not available the bet is off. Betting exchanges consistently offer good odds.

Neil

crash 5th May 2006 05:35 PM

I'm not accusing you of deliberate 'smoke and mirrors' Neil, but if your are making a forum comment in a thread, you are fair game.

Sounds like back-fitted odds selections to me. Not realistic at all. Betting exchanges are still illegal, yet you quote them as a [desperate] source of your SP[?] No disrespect intended but hardly the real world. I'd be more interested in best of 3 totes as a 'mean'. How many selection didn't qualify and what are your figure in that basket? I wouldn't be surprised if a lot of your claimed winners weren't in that basket at all [?]

partypooper 5th May 2006 06:33 PM

Crash, I'm in defense here, as I know IAS will accept a bet at Top Fluc with a minimum price stipulation, (an excellent product) so no need to back fit. You can place your bet well in advance and know it's OFF if your minimum price that you are prepared to accept is not realised. Needless to say sometimes you would have been on the winner, but your bet is OFF!

Neil 5th May 2006 07:04 PM

Partypooper has said all that needs to be said.

Horses can easily be backed at TF bookmaker odds with a minimum odds proviso.

Betting exchanges are also a reality.

As a general comment if I was forced to bet into markets consistently around 120% I wouldn't waste my time. There would be far better things to do.

TF bookmaker odds in Melbourne and Sydney on Saturdays for most races are well below 120%. There are standard exceptions, like races full of unraced 2YOs or lightly raced horses resuming from a spell. But I don't touch those races for Specials.

King Cugat 26th December 2007 05:35 PM

is this still going and what are the results to date....please.

syllabus23 27th December 2007 06:38 AM

To the boss

Just wondered how the 418% profit is going these days????

Otherwise known as a Dorothy Dixer,,,similar to another thread running in this forum at the moment.

partypooper 29th December 2007 02:54 AM

Just to add to that , I'm sorry to say that IAS will longer accept bets at Top Fluc with a minimum price stipulation, so where does that leave us Neil???

Not knocking at all , but just saying that we can't bet that way any more????


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