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wesmip1 13th September 2006 09:46 PM

WOW System V2
 
Ok first thread screwed up for some reason

This is based on winners that win well.

Rules:
1. Must have won by at least 3.5 lengths last start
2. Must be running on the same track condition today ( soft last start and soft today).

Thats it.

Selections : 1102
Win $ : 1179
Winners : 279

This is an easy systm that follows KISS principles. Adding extra filters to this does it improve it immensly but I can't give you everything

Good Luck.

breadman 14th September 2006 06:55 AM

Why not? LOL

wesmip1 14th September 2006 04:25 PM

Breadman,

LOL Nice response ...

But truely ... I can't give away everything I do.

Good Luck

Stix 14th September 2006 04:36 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by wesmip1
Breadman,

LOL Nice response ...

But truely ... I can't give away everything I do.

Good Luck

Why not? LOL

Oaksnaf 14th September 2006 04:53 PM

Must have run within the past 21 days?

wesmip1 14th September 2006 09:51 PM

Ok here are few

... WIN % >= 20%
... UnitTab Rating >= 96
... has a 'C' beside its name
... has a 'D' beside its name
... Same Jockey

and oaksnaf's is correct but drop it down to 14 days, 21 days usually means they pulled up sore after the win (unless its a 1800+ distance, then they just need the rest ).

They all increase the results significantly.

Good Luck.

Jimmy 14th September 2006 11:22 PM

Thanks for this wesmip, something to ponder

A combination of factors might reduce bets, increase strike rate

Even a quick look at Thursday with a tweak just using the following;

win > 3.5 lengths
win % > 30%

Could have included (same jockey and conditions similar ...??Mr Gold Fire racing from dead to slow, but won 2 previous on heavy) but would have arrived at same selections

2 bets
Morn R5 4 Stanzout W 6.40 2.40 unitab
Ballina R7 1 Mr Gold Fire W 3.50 1.60 unitab

no selections Friday Sale R6 4 Haka Brave has low 14% win percentage

Interesting to see how your filters alter your results

Cheers
Jimmy

leroy 4th October 2006 09:47 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by wesmip1
Ok here are few

... WIN % >= 20%
... UnitTab Rating >= 96
... has a 'C' beside its name
... has a 'D' beside its name
... Same Jockey

and oaksnaf's is correct but drop it down to 14 days, 21 days usually means they pulled up sore after the win (unless its a 1800+ distance, then they just need the rest ).

They all increase the results significantly.

Good Luck.
Do you get many bets using all those filters ?
Can you run the following please?
won last start by >3.5L
win s/r >20%
Has a "c" or a "d"
last start within 14 days

thanks
Leroy

good luck with the new arrival

wesmip1 4th October 2006 03:44 PM

Quote:

won last start by >3.5L
win s/r >20%
Has a "c" or a "d"
last start within 14 days

Returns approx 93%.

Add same condition as last race and it increases to :

Increases it to 101%.

Try thinking outside the box ....

leroy 4th October 2006 04:01 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by wesmip1
Ok here are few

... WIN % >= 20%
... UnitTab Rating >= 96
... has a 'C' beside its name
... has a 'D' beside its name
... Same Jockey

and oaksnaf's is correct but drop it down to 14 days, 21 days usually means they pulled up sore after the win (unless its a 1800+ distance, then they just need the rest ).

They all increase the results significantly.

Good Luck.

What are the results using all of these?

wesmip1 4th October 2006 08:31 PM

OK here are a couple for you

I modifed Win % to be slightly better ...

WIN % >= 30% = 116%
has a 'C' beside its name = 135%
has a 'D' beside its name = 109%
UnitTab Rating >= 96 = 104%


Good Luck.

partypooper 5th October 2006 12:17 AM

wesmip1, thanks for this one, it really helps, and also thanks for all your efforts greatly appreciated.

leroy 5th October 2006 06:48 AM

Thanks Wes, again..
I asume thats each of those are on top of:-
won >3.5L
same track condition
same jockey
Do you have the number of bets/WINS/$ returned ?

thanks mate
sorry if i'm being a pain in the butt, it all really helps
and very much appreciated.

Leroy

Panther 5th October 2006 08:13 AM

Why are the letters '****' being blanked out?

leroy 5th October 2006 08:19 AM

no idea

wesmip1 5th October 2006 08:47 PM

yep on top of

won >3.5L
same track condition

Didn't do same jockey forgot....

For numbers
Avg Bets a year : approx 380

Thats all of the following put together :
WIN % >= 30% = 116%
has a 'C' beside its name = 135%
has a 'D' beside its name = 109%
UnitTab Rating >= 96 = 104%

wombathq 6th October 2006 02:42 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by wesmip1
yep on top of

won >3.5L
same track condition

Didn't do same jockey forgot....

For numbers
Avg Bets a year : approx 380

Thats all of the following put together :
WIN % >= 30% = 116%
has a 'C' beside its name = 135%
has a 'D' beside its name = 109%
UnitTab Rating >= 96 = 104%

Hi Wesmip
All looks good, just wondering what % you get for place bets only?

wesmip1 6th October 2006 03:35 PM

Placing is showing approx 93% return .. so showing a loss overall.

leroy 7th October 2006 01:45 PM

BELMONT R2-2 LACHINO 1ST $5.50 (CITY BEST)

THANKS WES

leroy 7th October 2006 01:46 PM

RACE 1 THAT WAS

wesmip1 7th October 2006 03:56 PM

There were actually 3 selections for this today :

LACHINO - Belmont Race 1 - Won by 4.75 last outing
EMERGENCE - Murtoa Race 3 - Won by 6 last outing
JUST PEACHES - Gold Coast Race 5 - won by 3.8 last outing.

The placings were ($ based on best odds)

LACHINO - WIN $5.50 / $3.00
EMERGENCE - WIN $2.90 / $2.60
JUST PEACHES - 3rd $2.00

Not a bad day at all.

Good Luck.

leroy 7th October 2006 04:06 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by wesmip1
There were actually 3 selections for this today :

LACHINO - Belmont Race 1 - Won by 4.75 last outing
EMERGENCE - Murtoa Race 3 - Won by 6 last outing
JUST PEACHES - Gold Coast Race 5 - won by 3.8 last outing.

The placings were ($ based on best odds)

LACHINO - WIN $5.50 / $3.00
EMERGENCE - WIN $2.90 / $2.60
JUST PEACHES - 3rd $2.00

Not a bad day at all.

Good Luck.
Only backed Lachino,
Emergence 15% win s/r?
Just peaches 14%and uni-tab rating of only 93?
I was happy with 1 out of 1
Cheers
Leroy

wesmip1 7th October 2006 05:32 PM

Criteria is :

WIN % >= 30% or
has a 'C' beside its name or
has a 'D' beside its name or
UnitTab Rating >= 96

Just peaches had a 'C' beside its name
Emergence had a 'D' beside its name

Good Luck.

wesmip1 7th October 2006 05:36 PM

EMERGENCE had a 'D"
JUST PEACHES had a 'C'

Criteria is any of the following :

WIN % >= 30%
has a 'C' beside its name
has a 'D' beside its name
UnitTab Rating >= 96

leroy 7th October 2006 05:41 PM

OK, THANKS FOR CLEARING THAT UP.
NO WONDER I HAV'NT BEEN ABLE TO FIND MANY
I'LL GO HAVE ANOTHER BEER NOW!!!
CHEERS
LEROY

leroy 9th October 2006 09:54 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by wesmip1
yep on top of

won >3.5L
same track condition

Didn't do same jockey forgot....

For numbers
Avg Bets a year : approx 380

Thats all of the following put together :
WIN % >= 30% = 116%
has a 'C' beside its name = 135%
has a 'D' beside its name = 109%
UnitTab Rating >= 96 = 104%
So can i asume the % are better with same jockey?

Also what are numbers like when you use the same rules for all last start winners?

Thanks
Leroy

wesmip1 9th October 2006 04:38 PM

Quote:
So can i asume the % are better with same jockey?

Yes significantly better.

Quote:
Also what are numbers like when you use the same rules for all last start winners?

They show a loss of around 10%.

leroy 9th October 2006 04:41 PM

Thanks mate


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