Crash's Pre-post System
 

He is one of my personally designed systems that does OK and throws up some good priced winners and is in profit after 2yrs. of off again on again use.

1. Go to: http://tabform.thewest.com.au/jspcontent/TFFrameset.jsp after they have the PP odds up.
[can use any pp source inc. newspaper but stick to the same one].
2. Consider any race meeting except WA or TAS. [also Ipswich races] with a Good track only.
3. Ignore any maidens, Hurdles, Stakes or Group races, Cup races, less than 1100m races or more than 2420m races.
4. Ignore any race with a $2.50 or less pp fav.
5. Note 2nd and third pp fav. [if 2 horses are the same odds the smallest tab. no. is 2nd. etc.], if they have a 't' or 'd' and are at least 3rd. up and in barrier 1 to 9.
6. Horse must be 3 to 5 yrs. only and must have last raced within 21 days.
6. Go to: http://www.racingandsports.com.au/racing/ and click on 'Stewards room' in the left column.
7. Check gear changes on that page and ignore any runner with a gear change.
8. The 2nd. fav. is your bet unless it is disqualified by any of above. The 3rd. pp fav. is then your bet unless it is also disqualified.
9. Any qualifier must have won in the 'good'.

There is an advanced form of this system that takes into account the runner's racing style [Leader, On pacer, Mid-pacer or Back-marker] and is the one I use. To use the advanced system you need a form service that denotes that info ['Past the Post' or similar]. With that info., leaders and On-pacers must be in the inside barriers, Mid-pacers and Back-markers in the outside barriers. It make a difference [especially for Back-markers] but barrier 1 to 9 generally works OK in the scheme of things.

Looks good crash,

On the issue of gear changes, I've had a lot of success laying odds on favourites carrying a gear change, unless it's an "again" item.
Whenever I see "first time" it's a flag of doubt about it's short price.
Of course any other gear such as shoes, chains etc is like printing your own currency.
Two odds on faves went down in Aus today with gear changes ;)
This also works with the trots, where the odds on favourite broke last start.

But good luck with your system, are you going to list a tally?

I might run with the system for awhile. Probably need a bit of a rest from handicapping anyway.

Gear changes certainly would be a money maker for Layers.
Watch out for blinkers first time though. A lot of runners drastically improve.
Everything else listed in gear changes, the horses don't like and mostly run accordingly. Haradasun had a tongue tie last week and look what happened there!

Yes, you're right there crash,
Blinkers, w inkers and even pacifiers I don't lay, but bits, tongue ties, shoes etc all tell a story.

Only 2 'good' tracks today:

Wednesday, February 28

EAGLE FARM
5/2,4
7/4 Rum Dum (11) *Back-marker
GAWLER
5/6 Odea (3) *Mid-pacer
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Is this a mistake or is it number 2 & 4 in Race 5?

R5/2,4 at Eagle Farm are a couple of early prospects that didn't qualify under 'days since last start' rule. I forgot to delete them from my copy and paste [one of them will win for sure now!].

The selections I put up are using the 'advanced' form of this system. The horse in Barrier 11 would not normally be included under the generalized barrier 1 to 9 rule. Because I know the horse is a Back-marker from my form service, it becomes a bet as it's in an ideal barrier.

They'll run the quinella for sure. ;)

I can recall listening to **** Kiwi jock Gary Willets during a live free to air telecast on Cup day making particular mention of how a horse can improve when wearing blinkers for the first time.

Anyone know what happened to him??

Why the **** when all I had was ****????????

What is happening with this site?
Have the moderators all gone mad,or is it me????
No swear words,no malice.yet it gets edited???
What's the use,
Goodbye all,enjoy your standover treatment,but not for me.
Stick it.

I wouldn't take it personally mate. It happens to all of us, even with some innocent words. The auto. blocker on this forum is a bit screwy with some words, but often leaves in the obvious that's begging to be deleted :-)

No luck today but I wouldn't jump ship just yet. Last time I used the system was in December and it did very well indeed, although I didn't follow it everyday but almost except for a holiday period.

December results:

Bathurst Friday, December 01
r2/6 Stone of Heaven 7.60w
WAGGA
r4/4 Nebuchadnezzar
ol 2 r 7.2 p 5.2
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BENALLA Sunday, December 03
r7/4 Cardamos 3.90w
Geelong
r2/2 Melete
r8/7 Flash Affair
Murray Bridge
r8/1 Karn Bro
SUNSHINE COAST
r5/2 Ceasers Jewl 4.10w
outlay 5 Return 8 Profit 3
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KYNETON Tuesday, December 05
r7/2 Glenarch
r8/11 Tiffany Cross 12.60w
SCONE
r7/3 Glowing 3.60w
ol 3 r 16.4 p 13.4
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EAGLE FARM Wednesday, December 06
r5/1 Demolir
HAWKESBURY
r2/3 Aftermath
r4/3 Jerusha
r5/2 Tip Of The Iceberg
ol 4 r nil p - 4
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Holiday
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Saturday, December 16
EAGLE FARM
7/8 Mr Hornblower
GOLD COAST
4/3 Raging Time
7/2 Sprintcar 6.60w
STONY CREEK
6/1 Share Boom 7.00w
8/2 Appraiser 5.40w
ol 5 r 13 p 8
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BALLARAT Sunday, December 17
5/6 Beat The Traffic 5.8w
6/1 Youlwin
BORDERTOWN
6/4 Deva Rock 6.4w
ol 3 r 12.2 p 9.8
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SR NARROMINE Monday, December 18
3/5 Desert Fairy 8.50w
ol 1 r 8.60 p 8.60
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CESSNOCK Tuesday, December 19
ROCKHAMPTON
1/1 Private Ascot
4/4 Fleet The Bongo
6/4 Happy Spot 4.40w
8/5 Condamine Beauty 5.20w
ol 4 r 9.60 p 5.6
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Ipswich December 20
5/6 Shani's Crown
7/2 Circus Maximus
Strathablyn
4/1 Alift (NZ)
5/4 Ninemile Road
6/3 Grand Title
ol 5 r 0 loss 5
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EAGLE FARM Thursday, December 21
r3/1 No Doubt At All
r4/5 Kypris 10.20w
TAMWORTH
1/5 Tycoon Mick 4.20w
2/3 San Carlo 3.70w
8/5 no
o/l 4 r 18.1 p 14.1
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Friday, December 22
LISMORE
3/3 Ashbury
4/4 Unfair
loss 2
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CHELTENHAM Saturday, December 23
4/3 3 Roll On Royce $6.90w
DOOMBEN
5/2 Cocktail Supreme
6/4 Helter Skelter
7/3 Hard To Catch
TOOWOOMBA
1/6 Carlyle Arch
5/6 Sweet Joseshee
6/7 The Pilot
ol 7 r 6.90 loss 0.10
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STAWELL Sunday, December 24
4/2 Knock Knock
5/3 Inglewood Doc 3.10w
ol 2 r 3.10 p 1.10
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MURRAY BRIDGE Wednesday, December 27
6/3 Acacia Queen 5.50w
WAGGA
3/3 There's No Doubt 2.40w
ol 2 r 7.90 p 5.90
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Thursday, December 28
PORT LINCOLN
5/3 Aftershocks
6/4 Mrs Spudley 3.80w
TOWNSVILLE
4/2 Kiltiernan 4.10w
5/3 Slick Score 6.10w
6/4 Dominate King
o/l 5 r 14.10 p 9.10
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COFFS HARBOUR Friday, December 29
8/6 Fiery Command
CRANBOURNE
6/2 Cica Cica
ol 2 r0 p0
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DOOMBEN Saturday, December 30
1/5 Our Private Jet
GAWLER
5/8 Major League
GOLD COAST
4/1 Raging Time 6.40w
7/5 Eve Angelene
Moonee Valley
5/5 Lady In The Sun
6/4 Poised to win
7/2 Silk Wind
8/4 Kipconi
TERANG
4/4 Academy Kiss 3.20w
5/8 Wandering Melody
7/3 Run Barry Run
8/4 Lunch At Cristi's
TOOWOOMBA
3/1 Big Bedourie 4.20w
4/2 Tuscan Jazz
5/4 Empowered
ol 15 r15.8 p0.8
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Sund. 31/12/06

SUNSHINE COAST
7/1 Caffe Di Clang
SCONE
5/9 Amisere
NARACOORTE
5/3 Surewood 5.40w
GOSFORD
4/6 High Horse
ECHUCA
6/7 Gala Evening 2.50w

ol 5 r 7.90 p 2.90
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DEC. Totals: ol 76 r 148.8 p 72.8
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The only dry track today.

ROCKHAMPTON Thursday, March 01

r1/1 PACIFIC SEA
r2/2 CALL ME GUNYA
r6/4 THEBAREFOOTBUSHMAN
r7/2 CAN GO
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ROCKHAMPTON Thursday, March 01

r1/1 PACIFIC SEA scr.

r1/2 GIGGLING BOY
r2/2 CALL ME GUNYA
r6/4 THEBAREFOOTBUSHMAN
r7/2 CAN GO

Go4It, please send an e-mail to webmaster at ozmium dot com dot au about the issue you have had with the forum word censor software and we will look into it.

Sorry about the inconvenience.

Management.

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Some might consider such mutilation **** traordinary and **** cessive.

ROCKHAMPTON Thursday, March 01

r1/2 GIGGLING BOY
r2/2 CALL ME GUNYA
r6/4 THEBAREFOOTBUSHMAN [scr.]
r7/2 CAN GO 4.30w
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No WA tab PP odds so far today so I'm just using the Age newspaper form guide PP prices.

Only one dry track:

SANDOWN - HILLSIDE Friday, March 02
5/3 Mi Casa Su Casa
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Before Scratchings [no subs]:

CAULFIELD Saturday, March 03
r3/9 Lady Lisbon

DOOMBEN
r2/1 Carry On Kosa
r5/7 Hesashow
r6/13 Casaco
r8/3 Crafty King

GOLD COAST
r4/2 Oboe D'Amor
r5/4 Bradfield
r7/4 Fissile

TOOWOOMBA
r2/5 The Esplanade
r3/3 One Small Step
r4/5 Doug's Mate [backmarker]
r5/4 Centenn
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Doomben r6/13 should be: Sha'bourne Regal

CAULFIELD Saturday, March 03
r3/9 Lady Lisbon
DOOMBEN
r2/1 Carry On Kosa
r5/7 Hesashow
r6/13 Sha'bourne Regal 5.60w
r8/3 Crafty King
GOLD COAST
r4/2 Oboe D'Amor
r5/4 Bradfield 11.60w
r7/4 Fissile
TOOWOOMBA
r2/5 The Esplanade
r3/3 One Small Step
r4/5 Doug's Mate 2.30w
r5/4 Centenn
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ol 11 r19.50 p8.50
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Sorry:
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ol 12 r19.50 p7.50
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ALBURY Sunday, March 04
7/12 Boendso

BALAKLAVA
3/1 Sweet Julia

SUNSHINE COAST
5/8 Riverstone
6/6 Scenic Spirit
7/4 Tropical Express
8/1 Bullish Star

TERANG
5/3 Bretton Woods
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5/8 Riverstone 3.80w
6/6 Scenic Spirit 3.60w

Just enough today for a tiny profit and very unlucky on a double figure odds runner.

Since posting the system there has been 24 units bet for 31.20 units return.

Not rags to riches stuff but a fair profit. Anyone interested now is familiar enough with the system to go on with it if they like. I'm not about to continue moronically and slavishly whacking up daily selections to prove anything, nor going by the amount of visits to the thread, save other punters a bit of personal effort.

Cheers and good punting!

You're a harsh man

'Harsh'? That's a bit rich AP.
I've supplied the system rules. Can't hurt to let punters profiting from it [mostly non-members of this forum] do their own leg-work at least.

"Harsh" with a big wink as you'll note.

Regards

Your moronic slave Pixie

Crash

How are you getting along with Betfair now you've used it for a while?

Pixie

I find I'm using both Betfair and Stab. If I want to put on an early bet I'll use Stab mostly.