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pharfromoz 10th May 2007 10:43 AM

T.O.E. ANGLE
 
BENDIGO

2ND- #2 AUTHENTIC STAR

5TH- #2 MOLLY'S FOLLY
........#3 MARY'S FLAG


WYONG

1ST- #4 FABUVISION

6TH- #7 RARING

watsonnek 10th May 2007 10:58 AM

I'll bight pharfromoz, what's your T.O.E angle?
Looking at your selections would it be something to do with racing recently over a longer journey than today's race!?

pharfromoz 10th May 2007 11:22 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by watsonnek
I'll bight pharfromoz, what's your T.O.E angle?
Looking at your selections would it be something to do with racing recently over a longer journey than today's race!?
mostly but you want to see him regressing after the distance that he is going today. so if hes going at a mile today and the last out he went a mile and a 1/16th you want to see him moving back or dweltingsomewhere around the mile point. and if the races are close enough you can use him again if he needed his last out using the t.o.e. angle.

turf over-extention- t.o.e.

use it successfully in the states but havent used it that much down under.

pharfromoz 10th May 2007 03:39 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by pharfromoz
BENDIGO

2ND- #2 AUTHENTIC STAR

5TH- #2 MOLLY'S FOLLY
........#3 MARY'S FLAG


WYONG

1ST- #4 FABUVISION

6TH- #7 RARING
BENDIGO

2ND- #2 AUTHENTIC STAR- 4th

5TH- #2 MOLLY'S FOLLY- 2nd- $5.40 $4.20
........#3 MARY'S FLAG- 1st- $32.30 $6.50 $4.80.....$2 ezacta 3/2= $181.40


WYONG

1ST- #4 FABUVISION- out- terrible spot heading home.

6TH- #7 RARING- 3rd- $4.10 ....wish he wouldnt have taken so much heat from the start. thats racing!

westman 10th May 2007 04:28 PM

Toeriffic tip Mary's Flag, pharfromoz :)

pharfromoz 10th May 2007 05:00 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by westman
Toeriffic tip Mary's Flag, pharfromoz :)
thanks westman appreciate it.

pharfromoz 11th May 2007 11:23 AM

CRANBOURNE


5TH- #10 SWAMP LAD
........#12 FILL LEE'S POCKET

8TH- #12 EULER


GOULBURN

1ST- #4 SALNIKOV
........#5 SHWEDAGON

4TH- #9 PLAY OF LIGHT

sad to see the #3 and #6 get scratched.

7TH- #1 WINKURRA
........#2 SIMONS COMET
........#5 BOSSY MATILDA
........#10 POWERED BY DANE

watsonnek 11th May 2007 11:26 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by pharfromoz
mostly but you want to see him regressing after the distance that he is going today. so if hes going at a mile today and the last out he went a mile and a 1/16th you want to see him moving back or dweltingsomewhere around the mile point. and if the races are close enough you can use him again if he needed his last out using the t.o.e. angle.

turf over-extention- t.o.e.

use it successfully in the states but havent used it that much down under.


yep, understand. thanks pharfromoz :)

pharfromoz 11th May 2007 11:48 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by watsonnek
yep, understand. thanks pharfromoz :)
of course you can always use your own judgment to tell if turning back could favor him. doesnt always have to be dwelter. some times i like to use horses that come from behind after following slow fractions when going longer .shorting up will always help.

pharfromoz 12th May 2007 11:27 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by pharfromoz
CRANBOURNE


5TH- #10 SWAMP LAD
........#12 FILL LEE'S POCKET

8TH- #12 EULER


GOULBURN

1ST- #4 SALNIKOV
........#5 SHWEDAGON

4TH- #9 PLAY OF LIGHT

sad to see the #3 and #6 get scratched.

7TH- #1 WINKURRA
........#2 SIMONS COMET
........#5 BOSSY MATILDA
........#10 POWERED BY DANE

5TH- #10 SWAMP LAD- out
........#12 FILL LEE'S POCKET- out

8TH- #12 EULER- 3rd- $3.90


GOULBURN

1ST- #4 SALNIKOV- out
........#5 SHWEDAGON- 1st- $6.10 $3.00 $2.90

4TH- #9 PLAY OF LIGHT- out

sad to see the #3 and #6 get scratched.

7TH- #1 WINKURRA- out
........#2 SIMONS COMET- 4th
........#5 BOSSY MATILDA- out
........#10 POWERED BY DANE- 3rd- $2.60

pharfromoz 12th May 2007 12:08 PM

DOOMBEN

6TH- SAFWA....came out of a t.o.e. and won. will use him again.

#3 ring of fire
#6 gorgeous george
#9 cypress point.......3,6,9 didnt come out of t.o.e.'s but should bring something out of that last race. in the exotics with SAFWA.

8TH- #12 READY WHEN YOU ARE



MORPHETTVILLE

7TH- #3 TONLYN SPIRIT
........#7 QUOTATION
........#13 I'M A GOODY

8TH- #2 MERLOT NOW
........#4 TORA TORA TORA

pharfromoz 12th May 2007 04:06 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by pharfromoz
DOOMBEN

6TH- SAFWA....came out of a t.o.e. and won. will use him again.

#3 ring of fire
#6 gorgeous george
#9 cypress point.......3,6,9 didnt come out of t.o.e.'s but should bring something out of that last race. in the exotics with SAFWA.

8TH- #12 READY WHEN YOU ARE



MORPHETTVILLE

7TH- #3 TONLYN SPIRIT
........#7 QUOTATION
........#13 I'M A GOODY

8TH- #2 MERLOT NOW
........#4 TORA TORA TORA

6TH- SAFWA- out....was a risk to go again after a t.o.e. win.

#3 ring of fire
#6 gorgeous george
#9 cypress point.........no exotic hit

8TH- #12 READY WHEN YOU ARE- out



MORPHETTVILLE

7TH- #3 TONLYN SPIRIT- 1st- $6.70 $2.60 (nsw)/$14.90 $9.00 $6.20 (usa)
........#7 QUOTATION- out
........#13 I'M A GOODY- out

8TH- #2 MERLOT NOW- 1st- $8.50 $2.50 (nsw)/$9.10 $6.60 $6.20 (usa)
........#4 TORA TORA TORA- out

pharfromoz 13th May 2007 11:51 AM

SALE

8TH- #1 DAMAZE
.........#10 COUNTESS RICARDO

9TH- #6 ENVISIONING
.........#13 ARABIAN RULER


GUNNEDAH

7TH- #6 HE'S ROCKIN
........#7 FAIR TRIAL

pharfromoz 13th May 2007 03:46 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by pharfromoz
SALE

8TH- #1 DAMAZE
.........#10 COUNTESS RICARDO

9TH- #6 ENVISIONING
.........#13 ARABIAN RULER


GUNNEDAH

7TH- #6 HE'S ROCKIN
........#7 FAIR TRIAL
8TH- #1 DAMAZE- out
.........#10 COUNTESS RICARDO-2nd- $2.30(nsw) /$7.00 $4.60(usa)- lost by a nose!

9TH- #6 ENVISIONING- 4th
.........#13 ARABIAN RULER- 2nd- $2.60(nsw)/$9.20 $4.50(usa)


GUNNEDAH

7TH- #6 HE'S ROCKIN- out- inside trip was blocked most of stretch. unlucky not to get through until late!
........#7 FAIR TRIAL- 3rd- $6.80(nsw)/$9.40(usa)absolutley flying home and missed 2nd by a nose- also unlucky.

pharfromoz 14th May 2007 10:46 AM

PORT MACQUARIE

4TH- #2 TIGHT
........#10 TOBE ORNOT TOBE


PAKENHAM.......not useing T.O.E. angle but useing it in reverse. these are horses that will benefit on a stretchout.

5TH- #5 DUNKING
........#8 GALLARATI
........#13 SUPERCONSTELLATION

watsonnek 14th May 2007 01:32 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by pharfromoz
PORT MACQUARIE

4TH- #2 TIGHT
........#10 TOBE ORNOT TOBE


PAKENHAM.......not useing T.O.E. angle but useing it in reverse. these are horses that will benefit on a stretchout.

5TH- #5 DUNKING
........#8 GALLARATI
........#13 SUPERCONSTELLATION


TOE El-reverso worked well today, pharfromoz!

pharfromoz 14th May 2007 01:37 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by pharfromoz
PORT MACQUARIE

4TH- #2 TIGHT
........#10 TOBE ORNOT TOBE


PAKENHAM.......not useing T.O.E. angle but useing it in reverse. these are horses that will benefit on a stretchout.

5TH- #5 DUNKING
........#8 GALLARATI
........#13 SUPERCONSTELLATION
PORT MACQUARIE

4TH- #2 TIGHT- 3rd- $1.70(nsw)/$3.90(usa)
........#10 TOBE ORNOT TOBE- 4th


PAKENHAM

5TH- #5 DUNKING- 2ND- $4.80(NSW)/$13.10 $7.70(usa)
........#8 GALLARATI- SCRATCHED
........#13 SUPERCONSTELLATION- 1ST- $4.20 $1.70(NSW)/$11.40 $4.60 $3.10(usa)

$2 ezacta- 13/5= $138.20(nsw)
$2 ezacta- 13/5= $183.80(usa)

pharfromoz 14th May 2007 01:40 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by watsonnek
TOE El-reverso worked well today, pharfromoz!
worked well.

wished the port horses would of been there.they were but not in the top two. maybe a slow track might have hindered them.

pharfromoz 15th May 2007 12:44 PM

BALLINA

5TH- #7 CONCITARE
........#9 TUSKEGEE

6TH- #1 STENTORIAN
........#7 RATINGS WINNER- reverse t.o.e
........#9 HANNAHHARRY- reverse t.o.e

pharfromoz 15th May 2007 03:54 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by pharfromoz
BALLINA

5TH- #7 CONCITARE
........#9 TUSKEGEE

6TH- #1 STENTORIAN
........#7 RATINGS WINNER- reverse t.o.e
........#9 HANNAHHARRY- reverse t.o.e
BALLINA

5TH- #7 CONCITARE- 2nd- $8.80 $2.90
........#9 TUSKEGEE- out

6TH- #1 STENTORIAN- 2nd- $3.40 $3.60....beat by a big longshot.
........#7 RATINGS WINNER- out
........#9 HANNAHHARRY- out


suds 15th May 2007 04:21 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by pharfromoz
BALLINA

5TH- #7 CONCITARE- 2nd- $8.80 $2.90
........#9 TUSKEGEE- out

6TH- #1 STENTORIAN- 2nd- $3.40 $3.60....beat by a big longshot.
........#7 RATINGS WINNER- out
........#9 HANNAHHARRY- out




..it's the little longshots you have to be worried about pharfromoz... they tend to get under your guard! LOL

pharfromoz 15th May 2007 04:56 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by suds
..it's the little longshots you have to be worried about pharfromoz... they tend to get under your guard! LOL
lol, that took me a while but i got it. its getting late and im getting slow. lol!

pharfromoz 16th May 2007 10:52 AM

SANDOWN-HILLSIDE

2ND- #13 BLAZELAND

3RD- #2 POST THYME
.......#6 MOTOWN MELODY
.......#8 DIATREME

4TH- #12 PALATIMO
........#13 ON THE BOARD

5TH- #7 FRENCH KING

8TH- #7 SPORTING NEWS
........#10 LAST SHOGUN
........#11 QUARTON
.........#12 THOMAS HENRY

4 horses wow,im gonna see if i can cover by placing wins on each.but with 4 horses its definitley looking like an exotic bet.

9TH- #1 MR. BIGALOW
........#4 TERRAIN
........#15 HIMSTEDT
........#16 MELANIA

again- 4 horses ,im gonna see if i can cover by placing wins on each.but with 4 horses its definitley looking like an exotic bet. but i will be throwing #5 cyclonic bay in the 2nd and 3rd leg of the exotics.


RANDWICK-KENSINGTON

4TH- #1 SWAT
........#8 INTHEWAY

pharfromoz 16th May 2007 04:09 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by pharfromoz
SANDOWN-HILLSIDE

2ND- #13 BLAZELAND

3RD- #2 POST THYME
.......#6 MOTOWN MELODY
.......#8 DIATREME

4TH- #12 PALATIMO
........#13 ON THE BOARD

5TH- #7 FRENCH KING

8TH- #7 SPORTING NEWS
........#10 LAST SHOGUN
........#11 QUARTON
.........#12 THOMAS HENRY

4 horses wow,im gonna see if i can cover by placing wins on each.but with 4 horses its definitley looking like an exotic bet.

9TH- #1 MR. BIGALOW
........#4 TERRAIN
........#15 HIMSTEDT
........#16 MELANIA

again- 4 horses ,im gonna see if i can cover by placing wins on each.but with 4 horses its definitley looking like an exotic bet. but i will be throwing #5 cyclonic bay in the 2nd and 3rd leg of the exotics.


RANDWICK-KENSINGTON

4TH- #1 SWAT
........#8 INTHEWAY
SANDOWN-HILLSIDE

2ND- #13 BLAZELAND- OUT

3RD- #2 POST THYME- 4TH
.......#6 MOTOWN MELODY- OUT
.......#8 DIATREME- 2ND- $2.50(NSW)/$10.60 $5.80(US)

4TH- #12 PALATIMO- OUT
........#13 ON THE BOARD- OUT

5TH- #7 FRENCH KING- OUT

8TH- #7 SPORTING NEWS- OUT
........#10 LAST SHOGUN- 4th
........#11 QUARTON- OUT
.........#12 THOMAS HENRY- OUT

9TH- #1 MR. BIGALOW- OUT
........#4 TERRAIN- 4TH
........#15 HIMSTEDT- 2ND- $1.50(NSW)/$4.60 $3.10(US)
........#16 MELANIA- OUT
........#5 CYCLONIC BAY- 3RD- $8.80(NSW)/$18.80(US)

Why did force nine have to show up and ruin that trifecta! cyclonic bay(20-1) right there in second behind himstedt(4/1) and terrain in 3rd at 9-1 would of paid tremendous. thats horse racing!


RANDWICK-KENSINGTON

4TH- #1 SWAT- 1st- $4.20 $1.70(nsw)/$10.70 $5.00 $3.30(us)
........#8 INTHEWAY- out

pharfromoz 17th May 2007 11:37 AM

BALLARAT

4TH- #3 COUNT THE COST

7TH- #8 KENS IMAGE
.......#13 SAKI SAKI


HAWKESBURY

6TH- #3 ZAPPATORE
........#5 HUCKLEBERRY

pharfromoz 17th May 2007 03:57 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by pharfromoz
BALLARAT

4TH- #3 COUNT THE COST

7TH- #8 KENS IMAGE
.......#13 SAKI SAKI


HAWKESBURY

6TH- #3 ZAPPATORE
........#5 HUCKLEBERRY
4TH- #3 COUNT THE COST- 3rd- $2.40(nsw)/$7.10(us)

7TH- #8 KENS IMAGE- out
.......#13 SAKI SAKI- out


HAWKESBURY

6TH- #3 ZAPPATORE- out
........#5 HUCKLEBERRY- 1st(dh)- $4.10 $2.40(nsw)/$5.70 $8.60 $5.80(us)

dead heats suck but we'll take em.

pharfromoz 18th May 2007 11:46 AM

IPSWICH

9TH- #1 BREAKING THE RULES
........#11 GEE GEE
........#12 MISS MOLLY DOLLY


SCONE

7TH- #6 EL MEROO

pharfromoz 18th May 2007 03:59 PM

IPSWICH

9TH- #1 BREAKING THE RULES- out
........#11 GEE GEE- out
........#12 MISS MOLLY DOLLY- 2nd- $1.50(nsw)/$3.30 $2.40(us)


SCONE

7TH- #6 EL MEROO- out

pharfromoz 21st May 2007 10:51 AM

NARROMINE

2ND- #7 DEVOTEE
........#9 GORGEOUS NEWS

5TH- #2 BALLYREAGH
........#4 BOARDWALKER

6TH- #3 SAN PIETRO
........#4 MISS CLASS CEE
........#12 CABBAGE

im gonna work these bad dogs on the top end of some tri's. with some bombs below!

pharfromoz 21st May 2007 02:16 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by pharfromoz
NARROMINE

2ND- #7 DEVOTEE
........#9 GORGEOUS NEWS

5TH- #2 BALLYREAGH
........#4 BOARDWALKER

6TH- #3 SAN PIETRO
........#4 MISS CLASS CEE
........#12 CABBAGE

im gonna work these bad dogs on the top end of some tri's. with some bombs below!
NARROMINE- AUS A

2ND- #7 DEVOTEE- 1st- $2.40 $1.60(nsw)/$6.10 $3.20 $3.30(us)
........#9 GORGEOUS NEWS- out

5TH- #2 BALLYREAGH- out
........#4 BOARDWALKER- 2nd- $4.00(nsw)/$21.20 $7.10(us)

6TH- #3 SAN PIETRO- out
........#4 MISS CLASS CEE- out
........#12 CABBAGE- out

pharfromoz 22nd May 2007 11:35 AM

MOE

4TH- #4 SO VAGUELY

5TH- #7 PARTNERSHIP
........#9 YOSHINO
........#11 LAUTARI

6TH- #2 RUBIES OF RED
........#4 THE LADY HUSSEY

7TH- #10 BARRELS OF RED
........#11 RED HILLS
........#13 MISS GISBORNE

10TH- #2 BACK TO DESTROY
.........#7 THUNDER BEAR
..........#15 STYLISH TEMPO
..........#16 RESULT

TAREE

4TH- #3 HARRI POTTA
........#5 DANTES BEST
........#8 EVAANDEVA

suds 22nd May 2007 03:32 PM

g'day pharfromoz
 
a few winners amongst that lot, nice odds, particularly thunder bear (last moe)

pharfromoz 22nd May 2007 03:52 PM

MOE

4TH- #4 SO VAGUELY- 4TH

5TH- #7 PARTNERSHIP- 4TH
........#9 YOSHINO- 1ST- $5.90 $1.80(NSW)/$18.30 $12.50 $8.40(US)
........#11 LAUTARI- OUT

6TH- #2 RUBIES OF RED- 2ND- $3.00(NSW)/$5.70 $3.60(US)...caught inside most of the race. unlucky!
........#4 THE LADY HUSSEY- OUT

7TH- #10 BARRELS OF RED- OUT
........#11 RED HILLS- OUT
........#13 MISS GISBORNE- OUT

10TH- #2 BACK TO DESTROY- 3RD- $2.50(NSW)/$4.20(US)
.........#7 THUNDER BEAR- 1ST- $15.80 $4.20(NSW)/$9.30 $7.30 $8.60(US)
..........#15 STYLISH TEMPO- OUT
..........#16 RESULT- OUT

TAREE

4TH- #3 HARRI POTTA- 2ND- $1.60(NSW)/$4.50 $3.20(US)
........#5 DANTES BEST- OUT
........#8 EVAANDEVA- 1ST- $10.30 $2.80(NSW)/$16.10 $6.10 $4.40(US)

$2 EZACTA- 8/3= $77.60(US)
$2 EZACTA- 8/3= $88.20(NSW)


pharfromoz 22nd May 2007 03:57 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by suds
a few winners amongst that lot, nice odds, particularly thunder bear (last moe)
thanks, yeah it worked out real well. hit some pretty sweet tri's too.

looks like you guys show some pretty sweet wins compared to what it paid out up here.

pharfromoz 23rd May 2007 10:55 AM

BALLARAT

7TH- #10 HIMSTEDT

9TH- #5 CLOSE THE TILL
........#9 KARIKURI
........#11 MERCIA

CANTERBURY

3RD- #6 OUR OVATION
........#9 YIANNINA

playing with horses that are staying at same distance but should of got something out of it.

#7 paris chic
#8 piercing


5TH- #9 TRUST ME HONEY

6TH- #4 HOPESON
........#10 IM SO NOBLE
........#13 RARING

also two other horse that raced the same distance but will get something out of it.

#5 manapouri
#9 electric hatter

pharfromoz 24th May 2007 11:18 AM

last night was terrible and im out for revenge.

CRANBOURNE

4TH- #2 GALLARATTI
........#8 SCHNELLSTE

w/ #5 and #6 for the exotics

5TH- #6 ADMIRALS LADY
........#9 REAL TRICK

6TH- #2 PAVORARCHI
........#3 FAST FUTURE


GOSFORD

6TH- #2 ROYAL STASH

8TH- #6 WIEGENLIED
........#9 ENTER THE DRAGON

Sportz 24th May 2007 12:35 PM

Good luck. By the way, you wanted to know when a horse called "Ready When You Are" was racing again. Well, it's in on Saturday in one of the big feature races at Doomben. It'll be long odds though.

pharfromoz 24th May 2007 12:42 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sportz
Good luck. By the way, you wanted to know when a horse called "Ready When You Are" was racing again. Well, it's in on Saturday in one of the big feature races at Doomben. It'll be long odds though.
right on thanks alot sportz.

pharfromoz 24th May 2007 01:33 PM

dont know if anyone noticed but i hope maybe someone did. i left a t.o.e out of the picks in the 4th at cranbourne.

#7 SANDSATIONAL was also turning back in distance and came in second behind the #5 for a $95.30 ezacta.

sorry people.

pharfromoz 24th May 2007 03:58 PM

CRANBOURNE

4TH- #2 GALLARATTI- out
........#8 SCHNELLSTE- out

w/ #5 and #6 for the exotics- #5 -1st- $2.60 $1.20(nsw)

forgot a pick this race that was very important in the outcome. it happens!

5TH- #6 ADMIRALS LADY- 1st- $7.60 $2.50(nsw)/$15.00 $5.50 $2.90(us)
........#9 REAL TRICK- out

6TH- #2 PAVORARCHI- 3rd- $3.10(nsw)/$7.00(us)
........#3 FAST FUTURE- out


GOSFORD

6TH- #2 ROYAL STASH- out......what was beasley thinking?

8TH- #6 WIEGENLIED- out
........#9 ENTER THE DRAGON- out


gonna have to start showing this angles performance on seperate track conditions.

slow- 3-3....i know it shows 2-3 above but i left out #7 sandsational in the 4th on accident.
dead- 0-3


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