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Raw Instinct 6th June 2007 11:42 AM

Stradbroke HCP 1400m Eagle Farm
 
1 XCELLENT (NZ) Michael Moroney M T Coleman 57 (1)
2 MALCOLM John Hawkes 55 (22)
3 MITANNI Guy Walter S Scriven 54.5 (2)
4 GEE I JANE (NZ) Neville Couchman M Rodd 54.5 (6)
5 BLACK INK Les Kelly D Oliver 54 (24)
6 GOLD EDITION Ron Maund J Cassidy 53.5 (7)
7 ROYAL IDA Michael O'Leary D Dunn 53.5 (23)
8 STORMHILL Tim Martin C Brown 53.5 (9)
9 HARD TO CATCH Pat Duff B Stewart 53 (21)
10 SHINZIG Gerald Ryan G Childs 53 (14)
11 REIGNING TO WIN John O'Shea G Boss 52.5 (19)
12 BENEDETTI Tony Noonan Steven King 52.5 (17)
13 DAUNTING LAD Bill Naoum 52.5 (4)
14 THE JACKAL Paul St Vincent 51.5 (12)
15 MR UBIQUITOUS (NZ) Chris Waller S Seamer 51.5 (16)
16 FRIDAY CREEK John O'Shea T Clark (a) 51.5 (13)
17 SMART AND MIGHTY Tony Noonan K N Forrester 51.5 (8)
18 MAGIC MARVO Rod Craig J Taylor 51.5 (18)
19 NOVA STAR Kelly Schweida J Byrne 51 (11)
20 SNIPER'S BULLET Tracey Bartley C Williams 50 (15)
21E SNORT Rick Hore-Lacy B El-Issa 49.5 (5)
22E ENRIQUE Mark F Webb 51 (20)
23E ROMAN SQUIRE Paul Dawson 51 (3)
24E PRINCE LEO Alan Bailey 49.5 (10)

Raw Instinct 6th June 2007 12:09 PM

The rain isn't going to help alot of these horses and it is going to be a more of a wait and see what happens and hope the race even happens on the weekend.

The horses I like for the race right now are

Sniper's Bullet: I have already backed him at $9 last night and glad I did as it is the horse everyone is talking about dropping 10kgs from his 1st up run in brissie which I thought was full of merit, sure the opposition wasn't the quality of what he is going to meet in this race but he has been set for this for along time and I would be surprised if he isn't right in the finish regardless of conditions.

Royal Ida: I really think he is a chance in this isn't treated badly at the weights likes the trip and can handle the wet I haven't had a stab at him yet I am happy to wait and see what happens between now and saturday I wouldn't be leaving him out of any multis.

Stormhill: I felt his 1st run in brissie was a cracker and he has performed well on wet tracks in sydney in the past he is the one horse nooone is talking about that is definitely capable of running a massive race in this he can sit just near the speed aswell which could be advantagous aswell not to mention he drops 5kgs for being beaten 2.2l by Friday Creek 1st up.

Mr Ubiquitous: This guy loves a wet track and for that reason alone i had a small bet on him last night at $61 win and $16 place not sure if he has the quality to win a race like this but the wetter it gets the better his chances are and I felt at those odds he was worth a bit of a flutter.

I am going to have a trifecta on the race and it could change a bit if the rain goes away I can't see that happening and would be surprised if they run on something better than a slow track come saturday. One horse I am including if he gets a run is Roman Squire loved his last run not sure he is good enough or not but I don't think this is the strongest stradbroke ever either.

Alot of people are spruiking Black Ink yo me and I say good luck to all of you maybe he can win but it will be without me backing him this time I seriously doubt this horse at 1400m he just doesn't seem to really finish it off I will probably include him in my triffecta as I can see him running a place just cannot see him winning this.

Sportz 6th June 2007 01:44 PM

TAB Sportsbet:

GOLD EDITION - $5.50 / $2.12
MITANNI - $5.50 / $2.12
REIGNING TO WIN - $6.50 / $2.37
SNIPERS BULLET - $6.50 / $2.37
BLACK INK - $8.00 / $2.75
STORMHILL - $13.00 / $4.00
GEE I JANE - $15.00 / $4.50
ROYAL IDA - $15.00 / $4.50
MR UBIQUITOUS - $21.00 / $6.00
FRIDAY CREEK - $26.00 / $7.25
NOVA STAR - $26.00 / $7.25
SNORT (1E) - $26.00 / $7.25
XCELLENT - $26.00 / $7.25
BENEDETTI - $35.00 / $9.50
MALCOLM - $35.00 / $9.50
SMART AND MIGHTY - $35.00 / $9.50
HARD TO CATCH - $71.00 / $18.50
SHINZIG - $71.00 / $18.50
THE JACKAL - $71.00 / $18.50
DAUNTING LAD - $101.00 / $26.00
ENRIQUE (2E) - $101.00 / $26.00
MAGIC MARVO - $101.00 / $26.00
PRINCE LEO (4E) - $101.00 / $26.00
ROMAN SQUIRE (3E) - $101.00 / $26.00

ijuandaQLD 6th June 2007 02:04 PM

firstly i hate the weights situation. its a top group 1 race. 1 horse has 57kg with the next best having 55kg. its definitely a weak field mainly weights wise but the calibre of horses is a little down too........ back with selections later in the week.

ijuandaQLD 6th June 2007 02:08 PM

one point gold edition should have it in the bag with the limited amount of up front speed in the race......

maverick1993 6th June 2007 03:39 PM

I'm already on GeeIJAne at 21's ,,,this was before the 10,000 where she didnt do to much,,her odds went out to 31 but all this rain around has brought her back into 15's,,i still think she has a big show i actually like the barrier especially that time of the day...i'm hoping the rain stays around

Black Ink, Snipers and Royal ida of course come into it...Royal at 15's but i'm looking around for better,,,Snipers is alittle unders at 6.50 ,,but 9's is ok,,,

lets not forget Mitanni,,,he deserves favouritism hes fit and the wet track isnt ideal but hes not a duffer..,,hate that barrier though.
I think Goldie will find it hard,,especially if Excellent is scratched because that will mean the weights will rise,,,,the lack of genuine frontrunners in this race gives her a chance to sneak a cheap sectional or 2,,so you cant leave her out at all..

still a few things to sort out,,but i'm happy with GeeIjane,,if i can get alittle better with Royal Ida i'll have a go,,

Best roughie at 51 is probably smartnMighty but might be a run or 2 short..
will like the track,,and proven around it,,and in the wet.
why not i'll put 20 on,,,i put $10 on October Grey awhile back at 100's so i might aswell keep the charity going..

westman 6th June 2007 04:19 PM

Those in Brissie :) what's your predicted (state of) track condition for this Saturday please?

Horse Whisperer 6th June 2007 04:22 PM

Yeah alright ill stick my neck out even though ive already told you raw :P i think black ink is a huge chance, but the barrier has really messed things up. Though being the stradbroke and having a capacity field i think will ensure there will be pace up front and its going to suit the swoopers and black ink will be forced back from such a wide draw. The form behing Bentley Biscuit seems to good to ignore.

I agree with the Mr Ubiquitous tip, if this rain stays here like they are predicting it brings him right into the race. Massive chance at odds. There is gunna be a couple of scratchings with the rain so that should bring roman squire into the race. Loved the last run, and being a bog track could get up to surprise. I backed enrique a few weeks back but couldnt have it on the run last week.

I couldnt argue against anything in this race so im not going to dis anyones tips for this as im sure anything could win it.

Raw Instinct 6th June 2007 04:23 PM

Surely they can't possibly raise the weights now Mav after final acceptors that would be a joke. I to want nothing to do with Gold Edition the reason she is the price she is noone is real confident in running out 1400m especially with the weight she has on what is going to be a track resembling something more like the Brisbane River. She is going to be infront and it isn't very often you see a front runner win a straddie the chances diminish even more with the prospect of a heavy track as it just makes that much harder for her.

Good luck to everyone anyway tough race made even harder with all the rain

pharfromoz 6th June 2007 04:24 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by ijuandaQLD
one point gold edition should have it in the bag with the limited amount of up front speed in the race......
i was very confused by gold editions ride last out.

didnt he come from off the pace the previous race?

Horse Whisperer 6th June 2007 04:25 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by westman
Those in Brissie :) what's your predicted (state of) track condition for this Saturday please?


Mate it started raining where i was last night at about 645 and that was 5min from the track and it hasnt stopped since. it hasnt been pelting but there have been solid then light rain all night/day and there are no breaks in the radar for it to stop anytime soon. It is only wednesday and if it clears tomorrow and they have tomorrow arvo, friday and saturday morning in the sun then it could get to dead i guess but at the moment you would have to say worse than that.

westman 6th June 2007 04:27 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by HORSE WHISPERER
Mate it started raining where i was last night at about 645 and that was 5min from the track and it hasnt stopped since. it hasnt been pelting but there have been solid then light rain all night/day and there are no breaks in the radar for it to stop anytime soon. It is only wednesday and if it clears tomorrow and they have tomorrow arvo, friday and saturday morning in the sun then it could get to dead i guess but at the moment you would have to say worse than that.


Okay. thanks HW. Where's your list of webbed-footed horses located again, pharfromoz? :)

pharfromoz 6th June 2007 04:43 PM

Best Performers
WET STATS ALL STATS
SIRE RUNS WINS PERC RUNS WINS PERC
SON OF GILDORAN 37 13 35.1 451 80 17.7
MOSSMAN 30 7 23.3 318 54 17.0
DREAM WELL 37 8 21.6 158 18 11.4
AGHAADIR 37 8 21.6 314 37 11.8
NORTHERN REGENT 64 13 20.3 852 85 10.0
REVOQUE 125 25 20.0 648 85 13.1
IMPERIAL BARON 40 8 20.0 608 84 13.8
ICELANDIC 36 7 19.4 105 20 19.0
CHAGALL 31 6 19.4 590 66 11.2
FAVORITE TRICK 100 19 19.0 475 67 14.1
SONG OF TARA 111 21 18.9 902 112 12.4
SECOND EMPIRE 38 7 18.4 297 49 16.5
DR FONG 38 7 18.4 250 33 13.2
BELONG TO ME 132 24 18.2 963 144 15.0
CORAL REEF 72 13 18.1 191 18 9.4
SHOVHOG 112 20 17.9 1069 170 15.9
VISION QUEST 45 8 17.8 98 9 9.2

pharfromoz 6th June 2007 04:43 PM

SUMAYR 102 18 17.6 357 36 10.1
SHANGRI-LA 46 8 17.4 729 72 9.9
PRINCIPALITY 92 16 17.4 434 56 12.9
BEEN THERE 69 12 17.4 550 61 11.1
EBONY GROSVE 64 11 17.2 225 19 8.4
PAT'S VICTORY 111 19 17.1 235 30 12.8
MARKELLA 111 19 17.1 281 37 13.2
SHINKO FOREST 59 10 16.9 473 68 14.4
TRISTRAMS HERITAGE 30 5 16.7 61 5 8.2
ORPEN 102 17 16.7 643 93 14.5
FASLIYEV 156 26 16.7 781 94 12.0
COSMIC KINGDOM 42 7 16.7 388 51 13.1
ANABAA 198 33 16.7 1616 285 17.6
AIR EXPRESS 30 5 16.7 296 32 10.8
NINE CARAT 176 29 16.5 2028 202 10.0
MANALOJ 86 14 16.3 344 27 7.8
KING OF BROOKLYN 80 13 16.2 441 31 7.0
NOBLE YEATS 31 5 16.1 375 27 7.2
GROUCHO 87 14 16.1 1150 130 11.3
CENCHIRE 31 5 16.1 328 28 8.5
VOLCANIC PRINCE 100 16 16.0 800 118 14.8

pharfromoz 6th June 2007 04:44 PM

TRUE HERO 50 8 16.0 601 75 12.5
REDOUTE'S CHOICE 125 20 16.0 884 155 17.5
MAROONED 44 7 15.9 1443 166 11.5
CATBIRD 113 18 15.9 845 134 15.9
DISTORTED HUMOR 184 29 15.8 957 130 13.6
JADE ROBBERY 51 8 15.7 281 40 14.2
FAMILY TIES 51 8 15.7 192 15 7.8
TAILINGS 32 5 15.6 176 20 11.4
GLOBETROTTER 45 7 15.6 69 7 10.1
RUNYON 566 88 15.5 2279 248 10.9
CLANG 278 43 15.5 2921 357 12.2
SILENT HUNTER 39 6 15.4 46 9 19.6
METAL STORM 136 21 15.4 2961 497 16.8
MARWINA 712 110 15.4 4431 515 11.6
HULA GREY 130 20 15.4 883 84 9.5
BLETCHWAY 39 6 15.4 129 16 12.4
SPEEDING FINE 59 9 15.3 1066 135 12.7
O'REILLY 445 68 15.3 2114 316 14.9
FALTAAT 209 32 15.3 851 156 18.3
CARNEGIE 163 25 15.3 1061 124 11.7
XAAR 105 16 15.2 515 69 13.4

pharfromoz 6th June 2007 04:45 PM

GREEN PERFUME 269 41 15.2 884 118 13.3
FRISCO VIEW 99 15 15.2 751 111 14.8
LANGFUHR 225 34 15.1 1975 258 13.1
TORRENTIAL 193 29 15.0 1162 109 9.4
SEMITWIST 47 7 14.9 666 67 10.1
QUEST FOR FAME 663 99 14.9 4651 509 10.9
PALATABLE 74 11 14.9 258 26 10.1
SEQUALO 347 51 14.7 3890 575 14.8
PEINTRE CELEBRE 129 19 14.7 900 140 15.6
ENCOSTA DE LAGO 981 144 14.7 4987 709 14.2
CIVIC HOPE 34 5 14.7 567 60 10.6
CATRAIL 204 30 14.7 1551 215 13.9
BISCAY WONDER 34 5 14.7 318 28 8.8
VAREALE 48 7 14.6 435 31 7.1
RED RANSOM 158 23 14.6 1170 161 13.8
ARENA 48 7 14.6 461 47 10.2
SNIPPETS 773 112 14.5 5358 813 15.2
GERMANO 55 8 14.5 173 23 13.3
BEMBOKA SPIRIT 83 12 14.5 537 52 9.7
MISTER KWILA 174 25 14.4 2754 298 10.8
GENEROUS 236 34 14.4 943 120 12.7

pharfromoz 6th June 2007 04:47 PM

KILIMANJARO 49 7 14.3 236 20 8.5
DARBONNE 133 19 14.3 1851 191 10.3
CORRUPT 230 33 14.3 592 64 10.8
BUTTERFLY STAR 35 5 14.3 244 19 7.8
SCENIC 881 125 14.2 6187 752 12.2
REDMEAD 106 15 14.2 273 22 8.1
GOLD BROSE 493 70 14.2 1921 220 11.5
BUREAUCRACY 402 57 14.2 2830 297 10.5
SPINNING WORLD 284 40 14.1 1749 237 13.6
NIGHT SHIFT 256 36 14.1 2410 280 11.6
MOHAMED ABDU 234 33 14.1 545 58 10.6
LADONI 764 108 14.1 2453 298 12.1
HECTOR PROTECTOR 85 12 14.1 670 71 10.6
FIXED FLUSH 71 10 14.1 425 45 10.6
PINS 107 15 14.0 575 98 17.0
MARJU 93 13 14.0 423 54 12.8
LORD BALLINA 1135 159 14.0 2906 335 11.5
COMMANDS 143 20 14.0 881 131 14.9
BIANCONI 93 13 14.0 500 77 15.4
ZEDITAVE 554 77 13.9 4332 523 12.1

wise one 6th June 2007 09:25 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by westman
Those in Brissie :) what's your predicted (state of) track condition for this Saturday please?


I live about 5 mins walk from the Eagle Farm and at this moment at 10.22pm Wed there is good steady rain.

Find the webbed feet wadders (Gee I Jane,Black Ink , Snipers Bullet and Shinzig as a roughie)

Wise one

ijuandaQLD 6th June 2007 10:27 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by pharfromoz
i was very confused by gold editions ride last out.

didnt he come from off the pace the previous race?


in my opinion gold edition can race anywhere from leading to just behind midfield but i believe with the likely track conditions and the possible lack of up front runners she will either lead or take a sit. the only problem will be her ability to handle a possible wet track. although she has won on wet tracks she hasn't had that many runs on it to justify her as a genuine wet tracker. the barrier is beautiful will come into 5 with the emergencies out although with the weather may be one or two scratchings. the jackal and stormhill will probably race forward..... im unaware of stormhill's ability on rain affected tracks.....any opinions on other leaders???

maverick1993 6th June 2007 11:40 PM

hi Raw ,,i think the top weight has to be 57kgs,,so if excellent is scratched then the weights have to be risen,,,,,havent heard anything though so i might be wrong...
still raining steady...
go geeijane :)

maverick1993 8th June 2007 07:50 PM

Friday Creek out so that gives Snort a chance at the weights,,,was unlucky last start and the track and distance suits....
The track if there isnt more rain could be a dead tomorrow,,,you couldnt get a better drying day than today with the strong winds,,,

a note on Mitanni,,,i thought Shane was super hard on him last start where he cut him him to ribbons the finall furlong...Shane being one of the more stronger riders..He seemed to be full of life the other day at Breakfast with stars though so he might have needed a real good hitout to top him off as Shane was easy on him the start prior...the new trainer would have liked to see where the horse was at aswell..

I like the idea of moving the race earlier,,this is good news for Goldie as it might be a tough day to lead them up..i'd pay close attention to the earlier races to see if there is a bias..

Wow hasnt Snipers been backed,,couldnt beat a good class 6 horse last start and could jump fav tomorrow in a group1..it wasnt his last run that gives him a chance here its his run against Mutawhajid and Goldie last prep where with luck he should have beaten them both...I think hes unders even with Williams aboard ,,but the 26's around early would have been nice,,

Raw Instinct 8th June 2007 08:11 PM

Mav on Sniper's Buller he is a classy little horse that can handle any conditions and in fact i think likes it wet better than dry, he has run in some of the best company in sydney and run very well and at the weights i feel he is thrown in there with 50kgs, I had the feeling early in the week he would jump fav which was the reason I jumped on early.

maverick1993 9th June 2007 10:11 AM

what a horrible day in brisie,,freeezing and windy (could be worse ie Sydney) ,,,,,i'll be at the track and even though i have 10,000 reasons to be cheering GeeIJAne home ..if she does get beaten i hope Goldie can do it,,it will be a huge achievement and a bit of history..


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