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xanadu 11th October 2007 03:35 PM

Melbourne Cup
 
It's all over........!
Don't concern yourself with worrying about all the lead-up races etc... just get on while you can get a decent price......!
If any punters or form students witnessed the recent win of SCORPION in the U.K. there should be no doubt as to which runner will win this year's premier event.
My advice is to get on while the odds are very attractive.

Cheers.

suds 11th October 2007 03:37 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by xanadu
It's all over........!
Don't concern yourself with worrying about all the lead-up races etc... just get on while you can get a decent price......!
If any punters or form students witnessed the recent win of SCORPION in the U.K. there should be no doubt as to which runner will win this year's premier event.


just had some
thanks xanadu

xanadu 11th October 2007 03:47 PM

Yeah suds,

Rarely do we witness a "champion" which is clearly superior to any racehorse we, here in Oz can put up against him.
I've also secured succulent odds and will be waiting in line to collect on race-day.

Good luck to you!
Cheers.

wesmip1 11th October 2007 07:11 PM

I actually got on it today and just read your post now...

I have to admit it is the pick of the horses left that are competing and at odds of up to $19 it definitely has some value.

Good Luck.

xanadu 13th October 2007 01:16 PM

Yeah wesmip1,

those are certainly attractive odds and it may provide you with the opportunity of creating a "dutch book" or have some "saver" bets to cover your outlay-but that is up to you...I'm sure you have it under control.
Anyone else have any nominations which may be value at the moment?
Let's face it...no matter how superior some runners appear to be in relation to their rivals there is always the "great leveller"....the great uncertainty of racing!

Good luck to you.

xanadu 16th October 2007 01:36 PM

I'll nominate another prospect for the Melbourne Cup irrespective of how it runs in the Caulfield Cup:
Maybe Better,
trained by the astute Brian Mayfield-Smith who has been bringing this horse along nicely this Spring just intensifying it's training regime as it now contests longer races and tougher opposition. If he wins either of the big cup races it will be as a result of a masterful campaign executed by one of the top trainers in this country.

Cheers.

diogenes 16th October 2007 02:00 PM

I'll nominate Viva Pataca and Viva Macau: here early enough to ripen and in the hands of A. Cummings these HK champions are racing in great form and are world beaters in a field inferior.
Scorpion is a danger but isn't coming early enough to settle, and although untried you have to worry about the Zabeel/Danzig breeding of Maldivian, this Champ runs like Pop Rock and Delta Blues, long gait at fast pace, a real heartbreaker.

xanadu 16th October 2007 04:22 PM

Que.........?

Horse Whisperer 16th October 2007 08:40 PM

just on sportingbet, you can get $54 for the SCORPIAN/MAYBE BETTER quinella. I think that might be a bit of value.

crash 17th October 2007 05:52 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by xanadu
I'll nominate another prospect for the Melbourne Cup irrespective of how it runs in the Caulfield Cup:
Maybe Better,
trained by the astute Brian Mayfield-Smith who has been bringing this horse along nicely this Spring just intensifying it's training regime as it now contests longer races and tougher opposition. If he wins either of the big cup races it will be as a result of a masterful campaign executed by one of the top trainers in this country.

Cheers.


If any Oz horse wins the Melb. Cup, Maybe Better has been set for it, but I don't think it will be an Oz horse that wins either the Caulfield or Melb. Cup.

xanadu 17th October 2007 10:52 AM

Yeah HORSE WHISPERER that appears to be a mighty attractive price-I'll have to look into it.
crash, you're probably right but we have some very capable Oz trainers who plan and execute brilliant strategies to have their runners in the right condition to win some of Australia's top races. We'll just have to see what unfolds.

Cheers.

diogenes 17th October 2007 07:52 PM

Xanadu, your little Faulty Towers "Que" makes me think I have commited some faux pas?
Have I made a stupid remark again?
Enlighten me.

xanadu 18th October 2007 10:11 AM

diogenes,
No, not at all but I viewed post7 and the current markets and could not locate any Viva Pataca or Viva Macau.
Maybe I misinterpreted your post otherwise, no worries.
Have a good one.

Cheers.

Sportz 18th October 2007 10:32 AM

Yeah, pretty sure they've been out of Melbourne Cup contention for at least a month.

diogenes 18th October 2007 05:15 PM

Hmmm, I read somewhere that they arrive Monday and are booked to race.
I read a lot of stuff, maybe it was old or maybe I am.
It has worried me that they haven't appeared in any markets but that sometimes happens.
If they come what do you reckon?

xanadu 24th October 2007 11:17 AM

Yeah, we'll just have to wait and see however I doubt if they are still in the Cup.
However, Scorpion and travelling companion, Mahler arrived safely after a marathon trip but all appears well.
It would seem that Mahler is much, much more than a mere travelling companion for Scorpion and has attracted a lot of attention but when was the last 3YO to win the cup...1941, Skipton?
It is a big ask but some of those northern hemisphere runners have disregarded the record books before haven't they?

Cheers.

mugpunter 24th October 2007 08:02 PM

miss finland by 10 lengths, get on now as she will shorten if she wins the cox

crash 25th October 2007 10:28 AM

I wouldn't be so sure that Miss Finland will be in the Cup. She has to at least place in the Cox first which from b1 is going to be a big ask. Not her favorite track either.

jefff_12 25th October 2007 10:34 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by mugpunter
miss finland by 10 lengths, get on now as she will shorten if she wins the cox
You really are a mug

xanadu 31st October 2007 11:28 AM

A bit of "shock....horror!" with the news that Scorpion has been injured and subsequently withdrawn from the Cup. We've done our money but there is nothing we can do about it so we move on.....
There is also a cloud over Maybe Better so we will just have to see what eventuates after the results on the weekend.

Cheers.

crash 31st October 2007 12:53 PM

Maybe Better has recovered from the jarring -up apparently and is a Cup starter. I'm not keen.

xanadu 31st October 2007 01:06 PM

Yeah, you're right crash,
there are enough obstacles to backing the winner or placegetters without wagering significant amounts on runners over which there is still some doubt.
So, I'll look elsewhere and pay particular attention to the happenings this weekend.
I'm still a bit "shell-shocked" but those are the chances that pre-post bettors take...no complaints from me-that's the way it goes.

Cheers.

crash 31st October 2007 04:29 PM

Looking like either Master O'riely or Gallic [has the win form over the distance] now.

Privateer 1st November 2007 07:02 AM

Why is it that punters go crazy for the Melbourne Cup? Desperate to place larger than normal bets on horses weeks and even months before race day?

From a punting perspective it is just another race. Personally, I'll just analyse the race as any other and if I come up with a selection I'll bet, if there is no method selection, no bet.

Don't allow the emotion of the historical race to sway you from your normal punting strategies. Keep things in focus and stay calm. The race is a great spectacle and I enjoy watching it as a sporting event but I won't waste my hard earned money on random selections. I leave that to the once a year punters.

Cheers

Privateer

Matilda 1st November 2007 10:38 AM

I believe is all because of the pool of money. You have better value for money.

xanadu 1st November 2007 11:10 AM

That's if they actually survive the "elimination process" and get to start in the big race.
Perhaps Scorpion was a "smokie" and the stable elect was always going to be Mahler. We know what those canny Irishmen are like and the fact that trainer O'Brien has made his first-ever journey to Australia may suggest he is supremely confident of taking the major spoils home with him to Blarney.

Cheers.

crash 1st November 2007 02:09 PM

Can't be that smart when one of his horses is now lame because the 'smart' trainer ran him on a hard track.

MC is no 'another race', no more than the Cox is. Perhaps from a betting proposition, but for the excitement "X" factor, the Carnival races can't be beat!

xanadu 1st November 2007 02:26 PM

Que, crash....?

Scorpion hasn't had a start in Oz....unless you mean the training track...well that is a risk every trainer takes when he/she takes their charge out in the early hours to "put them through their paces..."
I agree with you that there are many profitable opportunities for the alert punter to "pay their way" over the MC carnival in the so-called "lesser races" and the couple of weeks after. These are the races I concentrate on and usually return a profit.

Cheers.

crash 1st November 2007 03:02 PM

Naturally I was referring to the hard training hit-out [had a run, not a start].


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