The Free Gold System
 

Hello all, I wonder how many of you have dreamed of a betting system that is like being given gold for free. Well, I have it. I get fixed odds and I always finish in front. Since I started using this system, one of many I have, I've finished in front every time I have used it. Every time I hit a winner I'm a winner. They might be able to stop you at roulette with things like table limits and even banning you, but they can't stop me betting on a horse until I hit a winner and finishing in front every time I get a winner.

Benny, is this you ........

It's amazing how wild claims of success always seem to come from 1st posters?

It raises the question of why the original post was made.


Sorry to sound cynical, but is there a reason why the criteria is not shown preseeded by the word "free".


Cheers.

LOLLLLLL! :)

...now that's funny...coming from a '1st poster' LOL welcome to the forum, freek :)

please please tell me more I want to win all the time just like you please please I can't hold on any longer!!!!! help me become rich I will pay you thousands for the system, you name your price. last chance hurry.

Isn't it typical? As soon as someone comes on here and posts something you lot don't agree with you all gang up and tear into them. And wonder why its just one post. You wonder why this place is so quite. Doesn't take a genius to work it out. Soon as someone comes on and posts what you, in your set little ways don't want to hear, you THEN decide to post and collectively gang up. Its like you were sitting there quietly waiting for a post to appear that you don't like, then you spring into action defending your set, staid ideas, and ambush the newbie. I've seen it time and time again. Guess you dont like any one rocking your little boat, heh? lol rofl

Without anything to back up your wild claims at success, they prefer to dispute it. As anyone can come on here and say they are highly successful without backing it up. If you want a bit of respect, you need to back it up. Otherwise don't be so surprised if people knock you, if you don't back up your claims with facts.

At the end of the day the only person you are really kidding is yourself.

So if you are so successful, please share how you come about being so successful. If you don't wish to share information about your system, then please don't be shocked when people are skeptical. As talk is cheap :)

Did you post the wrong smiley face there rofl boy? or is that you laughed out.

I thought you going to reveal the answer after the commercial break......

I reckon anyone that posts tips on a continous basis should have a running tally so we can note there worthiness. You usually see only those winners wacked in a quote box AFTER the race. The losers go missing and nobody knows whether they're following an astute punter or a novice having a crack at it. The only tips i follow in here are those like michealg's who are prepared to post the ongoing tally. i can see his tips and how genuine the tips are going for profit.

In saying that System King i think it should also work the other way. If you want to post tips, then show results >> OR >> post yourt results then your tips if you want to keep it hidden.
Otherwise just keep posting away but dont expect many to want to know about your gold press.

As far as the reception you got..... Pengo summed it up nicely

The thread was entitled "The Free Gold system". What did we get? No system, just the usual brag [without the gold].

Progressive betting will fall over in the end.

they can't stop me betting on a horse until I hit a winner and finishing in front every time I get a winner.

If only I could help one punter having to go through this rite of passage, I'd be happy.
But they never listen, it seems an ordained path to realisation, like the hike to the top of a mountain in Tibet.
The wise monk sits at the top of the mountain, the seeker at the bottom, he must trek to wisdom, for the monk has already walked that path and knows the answer.

Trek well my son.

The forum lags,,,the ante-Christ appears,,,,vitriol spews,,,all is well.......the controllers reign supreme......

All hail the Controllers, all hail the Controllers, so that we may be protected from the Anti-Christ.

(Something made me say that, I didn't mean it, I'm sorry)

Now, who's the Favorite in the next race so that I too can be a winner every time I hit a winner, using the trusty progressive chain betting method

Somebody SSSTOP! me.

Lets just break this down a little so all understand what is being offered here.

Progression bett that in itself is a bit risky lets do some simple maths, we will start small $2 now if you are backing favs you would need to double this everytime to get a profit when a winner is struck.

$2
$4
$8
$16
$32
$64
$128
$256
$512
$1024
$2048
$4096

This is after 12 losses, are you willing to continue after these losses?
Can you get matched on betfair for this amount of money after all we are talking fixed odds and we know a bookie will not keep taking the bets at any amount.

This all sounds very simple and we see favs win all the time, but have you done the numbers we are talking what if they don't win what is the backup plan and do you have the bank and the balls to go on with it (for the ladies i am not sure what you need since you don't have balls)

Come in suckers the king got you going.Ho,ho,ho.
Like a pack of Hyenas.

That's not actually true, Shaun, you don't have to double your bet, you only have to increase it by whatever amount is needed to get back your previous stake. Say, for example, you got odds of $3.00 about every single favourite, your bet would increase by 1/3 (33%) each time.

You just don't get it do you? Your so stuck on your negative little theories about "why this can't win," "why that must lose" that you lose all sense of perspective when it comes to the hurly burly of betting. Why do you think casinos have table limits? Its sure NOT to stop the punters losing more money. But IT IS to stop the punters winning by smart selection of numbers, I won't go into that here, PLUS staking. But your staking on horses is NOT limited by table limits. You can place your bet on the same horse with any number of bookies. Now as I indicated, I have my own great high strike rate selection method ... Does it run at a profit? Does it run at a loss? I DON'T KNOW. Why? Because even 10,000 bets prove nothing. You might be 1% down over 10,000 but 1% up after 10 million. Get my drift? Or are you going to get bogged down by theory? Are you going to get bogged down by the killer losing run? Who gives a proverbial if that comes once in a million bets or whatever. No matter how good your selection method is, whether it is pricing or whatever, you cannot tell me that your prices are so accurate that you will NEVER have a losing run that kills you off. So don't try your high and mighty falutin theory on me. Once you have a good selection method, you don't even have to bet on every horse, because every selection method in the real world of betting turns up some real dud selections, all you need is a decent staking method where you win and you become a winner. For my own part I NEVER lose more than three bets in a row on any day. I stop at three and then continue on the next day. I reckon if you work on my ideas you might just get your own free gold betting system. As for those here who say cough up or shut up that is typical. So typical. I rember a poster here some time ago who had a winning method based upon what was actually happening during the betting. I think he was Kenchor. Did he get canned by the negative brigade that live here because he could not give them his winners for free. Thats the problem in this place. You always want winning bets and winning systems for free. You dont want to be given an idea like I have given you and then YOU have to put in some time to fill it in and make it work. Well TOUGH luck. I have given you a great idea. Now its up to intrested readers to make something of it in the world of practical punting, not the high falutin theory of punting.

I copped an absolute gobful here when I posted in the middle of last year about my system. They all wanted my rules or my winners for free so they could work it out and then with everyone betting on it of course trash the odds.

I haven't posted till now. See their doing the same to you as they did to me.

Great stuff System King. And good luck. I know you won't need it.

Oh dear, you don't know if it loses or if it wins, oh dear me, it's going to be a long trek.
I'm on Betfair every day, please take my money, I can't wait.

Nobody wants anyone's selections for free, but posters come on with all these wild claims and offer absolutley no substance and completely flawed mathematics and logic.
Casinos have table limits because of possible cheating and liability, they do not have table limits because you can beat the odds.
I went above table limits at Crown and they moved me to a higher stakes table, then I went above that limit and they moved me to the Mahogany Room, they were not afraid that I would beat the odds, they were afraid I was cheating. so much so I had two pit bosses distracting me and overseeing every bet.

If you feel you can beat the maths and beat every other punter over 200 years of bookmaking, then good luck, you'll need it

This is not the same as Kenchar, he place bet horses based on market movements and stopped at a winner, an entirely different logic to martingale chasing losses on losing methods.
Psychology came into play with Kenchar's method and he did not chase losses.

Regarding Kenchar, his method still works today and I use it for about one or two place bets a day, it's been working for more than two years.

lol rofl. "Does it run at a profit? Does it run at a loss? I DON'T KNOW. Why? Because even 10,000 bets prove nothing. You might be 1% down over 10,000 but 1% up after 10 million. Get my drift?" Obviously you did NOT get my drift. People come and claim a profit or loss based on 100 or 200 selections or whatever. It proves nothing. You cannot claim a long term profit based on such a small sample. Even 10,000 bets proves nothing. You might be 2% down over 10,000 but 2% up after 10 million. SURELY you must get my drift? If not I give up teaching you.

10,000 winning bets proves nothing?

Sherpas will help you on your journey. ;)

Further it has nothing to do with how many bets you have, it has to do with the percentage of winners making up the profit or loss.

You could have 900 bets and one winner at 1000/1

Or you could have 500 bets and 300 winners at evens

What are the odds the first one will make money longterrm, what are the odds the second one will.

Hi!
I don't usually buy into this sort of thing, because I don't offer tips myself, BUT I am not selling anything either!
BUT, What you are saying about stats. "Because even 10,000 bets prove nothing!", is just garbage, if you actually believe it yourself then go away, you are a fool and wasting everyones time!
I had less then 3000 (you can even use a lot less than this) bets behind the method that turned out to be profitable, even back tested to 1998, before I dared to turn semi pro. and I had never looked back and it still works.
Statistics don't lie, People DO! Give me reliable statistical data and it will prove only one thing, the likely outcome. Use dodgey data and you can prove anything, but to say 10000 records prove nothing is stupid if not downright deceitful

Have you got any figures, one bet 100 bets, what % return do you get?

WHY? 10,000 bets can produce a POT of 1% and the next 10,000 could produce a loss on turnover of 2%. If you are dealing with such small margins that is no aberation. It means that after 20,000 bets there is a loss on turnover, NOT a profit. But what smart staking can do is turn a small loss on level stakes turnover into a profit. Your theories say it cannot be done without wiping you out. lol But betting is NOT theory, it is practise.

Show me one lot of 10,000 bets anywhere that produces 1% POT and the other 10,000 that shows a loss.

Guess I'll be waiting til next Christmas.

Ho Ho Ho.

Staking cannot turn a loss into a profit or the bookies would go broke.

Overround will get you in the end.

You can temporarily turn a loss into a profit, but that's luck, not logic and maths.

Where are all the stalwarts of loss into profit.

E.J. busted
Tony TTA busted

Both no longer heard from.

I guess that's why it's called gambling, there will always be those throwing money at a house edge.

So how can you claim that you have the "betting System"


I think your doing a bit of fishing

Dude,

If your system is so profitable, what are you doing wasting your time on a web forum?

I know if I found that a system that was profitable and thus make me rich, the last thing I would be doing would be posting about it on a web forum. I'd be out living the high life, heck I'd be buying my own race horses instead of betting on them!

Betting on horses is far, far more profitable (if you're winning) than owning them. Owning them is a great way to burn your $$$$$$$. Don't believe the rumours.

Unless you get one like your name sake.

Yes, but the chances of that are much less than the rankest outsider who ran this year.

Quote Crack-One

So how can you claim that you have the "betting System"


I think your doing a bit of fishing


Not even that Crack,,,this is a contrived thread designed to kick-start a moribund forum.

You get paid for top 6 when owning a horse, and sometimes top 10 if the prize money is up there. Whereas if you bet you only get paid if you bet the winner or get a top 3 finisher. In addition you get inside information which helps you do a lot better when betting :)

Pengo have you had a horse? I had one in a syndicate 10 years ago, if they pay there way you are lucky!!! with training ($1200 a month 10 years ago) and vet bills. Sure if you have a good horse that has won in town you may come out in front, what is the % of horses that win in town? The thrill of watching your horse go around can no be beaten!!

No but my mate has one, Aloisi which just came in 3rd. I bet on a win for him and lost whereas my mate is getting paid :P

LOL @ 1200 a month.. My mate doesn't pay anywhere near that and the prize money has paid for its ongoing month to month costs.

Previous to today's race it placed 4th and today 3rd, so hopefully next race he finally gets a win.

pengo i hope you're not advocating owning as a way to make money, because you would be wrong a very very large % of the time (i can't find the actual numbers, but a horse has a low chance of getting to the track in the first place let alone paying for your outlay)

If owning a race horse is not a good way to make money, then why do we even have a racing industry? :)

That said, there are definitely way better ways and with betting you have a "faster" way to make money. Plus also easier, let everyone else pay for the hard work that goes into a racehorse and profit from their success.

We have a racing industry because owners want to have the thrill of seeing their horse run around and hopefully win.
To have a horse that pays for itself or makes money on top is the elusive holy grail.
More than 90% of owners fork out far more than they ever get back.
That's why it's known as the sport of kings.

Without syndication only the rich can afford to race them.

In 2009 I'll be getting a horse to race for fun (2008 is already full of other things), I expect it will cost me plenty, but you never know, I probably have a 10% chance of making money.

In one race at sandown the winner cost $18,000 and beat horses costing in excess of $200,000.

You don't need to purchase a $500,000 horse, a horse under $20,000 has just as much chance of winning, the higher priced horses just have higher stud value.

There have been quite a few very expensive duds on the racetrack, many millions spent and never won a race.
The bloodline might be there for future progeny, but I would never buy a horse sired by an expensive non winner.

My horse will have to be sired by a multiple Group 1 winner, and under $20,000, you'd be amazed how many there are when the fashionable sires are the expensive ones.

Hey, maybe I can just keep betting more and more til it wins to recoup all costs, if it doesn't win, I'll just line up at the soup kitchen ;)