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Equine Investor 18th October 2002 10:40 AM

There is a punter on a U.K. forum who convinced a bookie to take a 15 horse all-up bet of 100 pounds.

His name is "camsteracing"

He is up to 14 in a row and goes for his final bet on Saturday (UK time).

What is so amazing about this, is he was contacted by the bookie at winner number 13 and he offered to pay camster out then!

:lol: :lol: :lol:

Camster's current balance:

Ten Thousand and 62 pounds and seventy-one new pence.

If this bet wins he has calculated a payout of around 80,000 pounds or more for 100 pound investment.

Fantastic and thrilling stuff!

You may like to post encouragements to

http://www.uk-racing.com/forum/view...=1239&start=150


[ This Message was edited by: Equine Investor on 2002-10-18 11:41 ]

Equine Investor 18th October 2002 10:44 AM

Even if this bet fails to salute :sad: I think this is one of the best efforts I have ever seen in 20 years.

Mark 18th October 2002 11:54 AM

I hope the punter hedges some of his yet to come profit on the other runners, and BEST OF BRITISH to him (or her).

Equine Investor 18th October 2002 11:57 AM

Yep, even if he hedges to get his 100 pounds back he can have another shot at it with a record like that!

becareful 18th October 2002 12:16 PM

:eek:

We need a new smiley for "Balls of Steel"!

I think I would have bailed out when contacted by the bookie - 15 in a row is just pushing your luck too far! But good luck to him - if he pulls it off I think he qualifies as a "legend of the betting ring"!

I bet the bookie will be s###ing himself if the selected horse gets anywhere near the front during that race!

Equine Investor 18th October 2002 12:25 PM

becareful, with this guys record (unless it is pure luck and fluke - which I doubt given his previous record) I would take a number of all-ups.

E.G.
25 pounds 3 in a row
25 pounds 5 in a row
25 pounds 10 in a row
25 pounds 15 in a row

That way at even money (assuming) if the first three salute, he has the rest of his bets for free and doubles his stake anyway.

Any other combination winning means a huge profit, including the final jackpot $$$.



00 Balls of steel smiley!

:lol:

[ This Message was edited by: Equine Investor on 2002-10-18 13:26 ]

Equine Investor 21st October 2002 11:38 AM

Unfortunately camsteracing's final bet Live Theatre failed to win.

It was still an excellent effort and he still has my admiration.

TESTAROSSA 22nd October 2002 10:38 AM

Interesting to see EI that a horse called Live Theatre is racing at Geelong today in the Derby Trial , could be an omen bet , or then again maybe not it did lose in UK didn't it.

Equine Investor 22nd October 2002 05:45 PM

Quote:
On 2002-10-22 11:38, TESTAROSSA wrote:
Interesting to see EI that a horse called Live Theatre is racing at Geelong today in the Derby Trial , could be an omen bet , or then again maybe not it did lose in UK didn't it.



Well 10 points TESTAROSSA it won paying $5.80!!!!!

I don't have the heart to post it on the U.K. forum it might destroy any shred of confidence this guy still has.

Should have taken notice of your omen.

:grin:

Paddy 22nd October 2002 10:54 PM

Hate to spoil the party Testa & EI, but Richard's (Camsteracing) 15th (and losing bet) was LAST THEATRE.

Camsteracing has had a few goes at 15 straight, this was his closest (and oh so close!) & he has just started again!

But just in case there is something in your omen theory EI, I believe these were preceding 14 winning selections:

1. Dream With Me
2. Greenslades
3. Ashgar
4. Florries Son
5. Palo venturo
6. Wild Knight
7. Comex Flyer
8. Diletia
9. Bongo Fury
10. Iorana
11. Mr Woodlands
12. Iris Gift
13. Beyond The Pale
14. Mr. Wellard






Equine Investor 22nd October 2002 11:04 PM

Thanks Paddy - my mistake.

:wink:

TESTAROSSA 22nd October 2002 11:12 PM

Thanks Paddy.

I think it makes it more of an omen bet doesn't it EI.

You just happened to write down the wrong horse name which was the same name of a horse racing on the same day that you posted it and it WON!!!!

Just happened to have a few dollars on it as well EI , thanks for the mistake!!!!

Every Topic 24th October 2002 02:04 PM

anyone wanting to succeeed at this game should study the Camster's technique - there are some pretty simple lessons to be learnt.
1. he doesnt try to pick too many races
2. most of his races have very small fields - which obviously improve the chances of picking a winner. He even refers at one point to the stupidity of trying to pick a winner in a large field.
3.most of his runners are short priced favourites who have the form to match their favouritism.

and it works - it is quite entertaining to watch, along with his happy go lucky style.

see ya
Every Topic

Equine Investor 24th October 2002 05:37 PM

Every Topic I agree that he has a great record and is selective with his bets.

I disagree with field sizes and short priced favourites though.

Very poor value is available in small field sizes for horses with good form.

Value lies in being able to select horses with class and fitness - not necessarily with outstanding recent form. With a horse like Northerly your odds are always shorter than the true odds of it winning. Same goes for Sunline, Lonhro, Victory Vein etc.

You only have to pick one good horse to beat them at good odds - win one race and you're well ahead. Example Spinning Hill was great value over Bel Esprit.
Horses with a huge following are always poor value.
For Example in the Cox Plate I'll be going with Ustinov and Grandera. Win lose or draw -I'll be getting value over the hot pots.
Longterm this will always give you a level stakes profit.
However, I do admire the strike rate of Richard and will never come close to it as it's just not a method I'm comfortable with.

I guess it's just horses for courses.



[ This Message was edited by: Equine Investor on 2002-10-24 18:40 ]

Every Topic 25th October 2002 07:01 AM

howdy EI,
whilst I am the first to agree that favourite chasing is a wasted pursuit most of the time, there are obviously horses that are better than the rest and they will win - so I cant see what point there is in betting on a losing, non favourite, horse.

In yesterdays example his pick won and paid $1.50
Since his strike rate is phenomonal, I would be happy with the $1.50

Even though I pointed out that he picks races with small fields - if there were only two horses in every race for the next week I still couldnt pick 15 in a row :smile:

I hope those who are feeding off his success are noble enough to cough up a percentage of their winnings in appreciation of his hard work.

who is he - do you know???

see ya
Every Topic








Equine Investor 25th October 2002 07:37 AM

Hi,

As far as I know he just refers to himself as a "form student".

I know that he is extremely selective in his bets as you say. Sometimes he will miss a day or even a couple of weeks without selecting anything and the "WHAMO."
He certainly knows a few trainers etc over there indicated by the detail of a couple of his postings.

I am considering opening a betting account in the U.K. because I do alright on their horses!
I posted a trial system there and it's going well.

Every Topic 25th October 2002 12:30 PM

I had never paid any attention to UK racing until recently but was amazed at how many races there are with only 5 or 6 horses running during the week. And some of the courses are quite interesting in layout :smile:
Do you have any words of wisdom for those wishing to have a stab at UK racing, either from a how to pick a betting agency point of view to impressions of how to win in that market???
I had a hunt around for form guides and have settled on the Racing Post site - it seems quite comprehensive for an amateur like me.
Its odd looking at the racing scene in another country - in the UK they have 6 in a greyhound race, dont seem to have much of a trots scene and have plenty of small field races.

see ya
Every Topic


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