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michaelg 15th July 2008 10:20 AM

Multiple Selections
 
Today's selections are:

Wyong:
Race 3 nos. 1, 3, 4, 6, 7

Townsville:
Race 4 nos. 1, 3, 5, 8, 10, 11, 12, 13, 16
Race 6 nos. 2, 5, 6, 7, 9, 11, 12, 13, 14

Kyneton:
Race 6 nos. 1, 2, 4, 7, 8
Race 7 nos. 1, 2, 3, 4, 6, 7, 9
Race 9 nos. 1, 4, 7, 8, 9, 10

Win outlay = $41
Quinella outlay = $128

Fingers crossed...

michaelg 15th July 2008 11:00 AM

Correction to today's selections - Kyneton race 9 is not a qualifying race as it is over 1,650 metres.

Win outlay of $35
Quinella outlay of $113.

michaelg 15th July 2008 03:01 PM

I made another mistake - Wyong race 3 was not a qualifying race as it was 2,100 metres so I will not include it in the results. Interestingly, it produced a small profit.

There were 30 selections today from the 4 races for a profit of $13.60, Unitab divvies suffered a loss of $2.00.

There have now been 82 selections for a profit of $27.30. On Unitab the loss is $5.40 which is a LOT of 6.6%.

I'll no longer record quinellas as they do not attract the low takeout.

Makybe Diva 15th July 2008 05:37 PM

Why don't you just back every horse in the race:P?

michaelg 15th July 2008 06:54 PM

The outlay would be too much. Hopefully I've identified the right races and the right horses. So far so good.

michaelg 16th July 2008 10:04 AM

Today's selections are:

Dombeen:
Race 3 nos. 2, 3, 4, 7, 9, 10
Race 6 nos. 2, 3, 4, 6, 9
Race 7 nos. 1, 3, 4, 5, 6, 8

Sandown:
Race 6 nos. 1, 3, 7, 10, 12, 13
Race 8 nos. 1, 2, 3, 5, 6, 7, 16

Grafton:
Race 6 nos, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 8, 9, 10, 12

Belmont:
Race 8 nos. 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 8, 16

Win outlay of $47.

michaelg 16th July 2008 06:16 PM

A losing day today - the method lost $6.90.

There have now been 127 selections for a POT of 16.07%.

I'm now checking Betfair S.P. as it seems to be better than the prices I'm obtaining. Today's loss was only $3.30.

michaelg 17th July 2008 10:53 AM

Today's selections are:

Grafton:
Race 2 nos. 1, 3, 4, 5, 8, 9
Race 3 nos. 3, 4, 6, 8, 9, 11, 14
Race 4 nos. 2, 3, 4, 8, 9, 12, 14
Race 7 nos. 3, 4, 5, 6, 8, 9, 15, 16

Rocky:
Race 5 nos. 1, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7
Race 9 nos. 1, 2, 3, 4, 5
Race 10 nos. 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 8

Ballarat:
Race 5 nos. 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 9
Race 6 nos. 1, 3, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 15, 16

Northam
Race 6 nos. 1, 2, 3, 5, 7, 8, 9

Win outlay of $67.


I'm now testing a similar system using the neurals. I've only looked at the past few days and it shows promise, so I'll list the selections and see what happens.

Ballarat:
Race 6 nos. 2, 3, 5, 10, 12, 15, 18
Race 8 nos. 1, 2, 3, 10, 12, 16, 17, 20

Grafton:
Race 6 nos. 1, 3, 4, 5, 6, 11, 14

Rocky
Race 10 nos. 3, 4, 7, 9, 11, 12

Northam
Race 6 nos. 1, 4, 5, 7, 8, 11

Win outlay of $34.

michaelg 17th July 2008 06:45 PM

A small win today - $5.40.

There have now been 194 selections for a POT of 13.29%.


Neural System

A good start - there were 34 selections for a profit of $21.40.

michaelg 18th July 2008 11:30 AM

Today's selections are:

Muswellbrook:
Race 4 nos. 2, 4, 5, 6, 7, 9
Race 8 nos. 1, 2, 3, 6, 8
Race 9 nos. 1, 2, 3, 6, 8, 9, 11

Seymour:
Race 7 nos. 2, 3, 4, 8, 10, 11, 13

Sun Coast:
Race 6 nos. 3, 4, 6, 7, 8, 9
Race 7 nos. 1, 2, 3, 5, 6, 7, 10

Goulburn:
Race 8 nos. 2, 4, 6, 8, 9, 12, 13

Win outlay of $45


Neural Method.

Muswellbrook:
R4 nos. 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 11
Race 7 nos. 2, 3, 6, 8, 9, 12, 16

Seymour:
Race 5 nos. 2, 4, 5, 6, 7, 9
Race 10 nos. 3, 4, 5, 8, 13, 14

Sun Coast:
Race 4 nos. 1, 4, 5, 8, 9, 12
Race 7 nos. 1, 3, 5, 6, 8, 13

Goulburn:
Race 8 nos. 1, 2, 3, 4, 10, 12, 13

Win outlay of $44

wallym 18th July 2008 12:21 PM

what type of bet do you actually place with so many selections?

michaelg 18th July 2008 01:39 PM

A Win bet using level stakes, but only with Betfair because of the superior prices.

As a matter of interest, the Neural Method has now snared the winner of Sun Coast R4 No.12, and also the $230 quinella. I got the winner at $65, however on Betfair S.P. it paid an amazing $130.

michaelg 18th July 2008 04:00 PM

A losing day - it lost $6.90. Even though it struck 6 of the 7 winners they were unfortunately amongst the fancied horses.

There have now been 239 selections for a POT of 7.9%.


Neural Method,

Today won $39.00.

There have now been 76 selections for an unrealistic POT of 78.90%.


Tomorrow I won't be looking at either system because for the past 2 Saturdays the normal method only broke even, and I've never really been enthused with the neurals for Saturday racing.

michaelg 19th July 2008 08:26 AM

I made an expensive error yesterday with the normal system. Muswellbrook R10 was a qualifying race but I missed it. The selections would have been nos. 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 8 and 12. No.1 won and paid $16.70 on NSW and $14.70 on Unitab. I don't know what price I would have snared it on Betfair but if it had been $12 or better, then the method would have shown a profit for the day's betting. This will not be included in the results. Its disappointing but at least the system shows promise.

Out of interest, if I was to include Saturday racing in the system then the selections would be:

Rosehill:
Race 4 nos. 1, 3, 4, 7, 8, 10
Race 5 nos. 1, 2, 3, 4, 5,
Race 6 nos. 1, 2, 3, 5, 7,
Race 7 nos. 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 8, 12

Caulfield:
Race 6 nos. 1, 2, 3, 9, 10, 11
Race 7 nos. 5, 8, 9, 11, 13, 14, 16
Race 8 nos. 1, 2, 3, 5, 7, 9, 13

Eagle Farm:
Race 7 nos. 1, 3, 4, 6, 8
Race 8 nos. 3, 6, 7, 8, 12, 13, 14

Morphetville:
Race 8 nos. 1, 2, 3, 6, 7, 10

Moe:
Race 6 nos. 1, 2, 3, 7, 8, 11
Race 7 nos. 1, 2, 3, 6, 7, 10

Gold Coast:
Race 6 nos. 1, 2, 3, 5, 7, 9
Race 7 nos. 1, 2, 4, 5, 7, 9

Kembla:
Race 8 nos. 1, 3, 4, 6, 10, 13

Total outlay of $92. I'll be having very small bets on them so that I will know if it is successful.

michaelg 20th July 2008 08:23 AM

Not surprisingly the System would have lost yesterday, but surprisingly the Neural System would have won.

Today's selections.

Hamilton:
Race 4 nos. 2, 3, 6, 7, 8, 10
Race 7 nos. 2, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 14

Hawkesbury:
Race 8 nos. 1, 2, 5, 7, 8, 9, 10, 14

Grafton:
Race 8 nos. 1, 3, 4, 5,7, 9, 11, 15.

Outlay of $36.



Neural System.

Hamilton:
Race 4 nos. 1, 3, 5, 6, 8, 10
Race 7 nos. 2, 4, 6, 7, 8, 13, 16

Bendigo:
Race 8 nos. 1, 4, 5, 8, 12, 13, 15, 20

Sun Coast
Race 7 nos. 2, 3, 6, 7, 8, 11

Outlay of $27.

michaelg 20th July 2008 04:25 PM

A very small win today of $0.90.

There have now been 274 selections for a POT of 7.22%.


Neural Method.

A small win today of $3.60.

There have now been 103 selections for a POT of 61.74%.

michaelg 21st July 2008 10:37 AM

Today's selections are:

Murwillumbah:
Race 3 nos. 2, 3, 4, 6, 7, 8, 9

Wellington:
Race 7 nos. 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7
Race 9 nos. 4, 6, 7, 8, 9, 11

Outlay of $20.


Neural Method.

Wellington
Race 6 nos. 1, 2, 3, 5, 8, 9
Race 7 nos. 2, 3, 6, 7, 8, 12

Murwillumbah
Race 5 nos. 1, 2, 4, 5, 7, 10
Race 6 nos. 3, 5, 7, 8, 9, 10

Outlay of $24.

wallym 21st July 2008 12:57 PM

So for example, in your selection:

Murwillumbah:
Race 3 nos. 2, 3, 4, 6, 7, 8, 9

You'll place 7 single win bets? Thanks!


Quote:
Originally Posted by michaelg
A Win bet using level stakes, but only with Betfair because of the superior prices.

As a matter of interest, the Neural Method has now snared the winner of Sun Coast R4 No.12, and also the $230 quinella. I got the winner at $65, however on Betfair S.P. it paid an amazing $130.

michaelg 21st July 2008 01:21 PM

That's correct, but only with Betfair.

As a matter of interest, number 6 won for a profit of $2.80.

wallym 21st July 2008 01:32 PM

Thanks michaelg,

I'm definitely missing something here...which I guess is how you determine how much to bet on each horse. On your selections:

Murwillumbah:
Race 3 nos. 2, 3, 4, 6, 7, 8, 9

Wellington:
Race 7 nos. 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7
Race 9 nos. 4, 6, 7, 8, 9, 11

Outlay of $20.

You have 20 selections...$20 outlay...does it mean $1 per selection?

My apologies for my stupid questions... Thanks!

michaelg 21st July 2008 02:28 PM

Yes, my results are based on the assumption that a $1 level stake has been bet on every selection, but any amount can be bet.

The only reason I've nominated a $1 bet is for the convenience when recording the results.

Even dutching all selections I believe would more or less get the same result. For example, yesterday the method had 5 races and the winner was struck in all of them but only produced a profit of $0.90 betting the nominal $1 on all the selections. And today Wellington R6 which has just been run and won produced a loss of $1.60 with a $1 bet on all the six selections, but if dutched for a target of $10 then the race would have produced a profit of approx $2.66 when the 5% commission is deducted.

Its the swings and roundabouts scenario with level or dutch betting, but I bet level stakes because I find it easier to do so, and also easier to record the results.


Edit - Murwillumbah R5 has just been run and won. I snared the winner at $15.50 which has produced inxs of a 100% POT - dutching would not have given such a high POT.

michaelg 22nd July 2008 08:44 AM

A very bad day yesterday - one winner from the three races for a loss of $9.20.

There have now been 294 selections for a POT of 3.60%.

Today's selections:

Geelong:
Race 5 nos. 2, 4, 5, 6, 9, 11

Taree:
Race 6 nos. 2, 3, 5, 6, 7, 9, 10
Race 7 nos. 1, 2, 3, 4, 6, 7, 10

Outlay of $20.


Neural Method.

A good day yesterday - a profit of $9.50.

There have now been 126 selections for a POT of 58%.

Today's selections:

Geelong:
Race 5 nos. 2, 5, 7, 11, 14

Taree:
Race 6 nos. 2, 5, 7, 8, 9, 12
Race 7 nos. 1, 4, 6, 7, 10, 13.

Outlay of $17.

michaelg 23rd July 2008 11:24 AM

Another losing day yesterday for a loss of $6.40.

There have now been 314 selections for a POT of 1.96%. If it goes into the red I'll have to go back to the drawing board.

Today's selections:

Bendigo:
Race 6 nos. 1, 2, 3, 5, 7, 8, 11, 13

Eagle Farm:
Race 7 nos. 1, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 11, 15
Race 8 nos. 2, 4, 5, 9, 10, 11, 14

Gosford:
Race 8 nos. 1, 2, 4, 6, 7, 8, 9

Belmont:
Race 10 nos. 1, 2, 4, 7, 11, 12, 13, 14

Outlay of $38


Neural Method.

A terrible day yesterday - no winners from the 3 races for a loss of $17

There have now been 143 selections for a 39.23% POT.

Today's selections:

Bendigo:
Race 6 nos. 1, 2, 3, 5, 7, 9, 11

Eagle Farm:
Race 7 nos. 3, 4, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15
Race 8 nos. 1, 2, 3, 5, 7, 10, 11

Gosford:
Race 8 nos. 1, 4, 7, 8, 10, 11, 17

Belmont:
Race 6 nos. 1, 3, 4, 5, 7, 11
Race 7 nos. 1, 2, 4, 7, 10, 12, 13
Race 10 nos. 6, 7, 9, 12, 13, 14, 16

Outlay of $48.

michaelg 24th July 2008 10:34 AM

A profit of $3.80 yesterday.

There have now been 352 selections for a POT of 2.27%.

Today's selections:

Cranbourne:
Race 6 nos. 1, 2, 3, 5, 8, 9
Race 7 nos. 1, 3, 4, 7, 10

Wagga:
Race 6 nos. 1, 2, 3, 7, 8, 10
Race 7 nos. 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 9

Outlay of $24.


Neural Method:

A win of $24.80 yesterday.

There have now been 188 selections for a POT of 43.03%.

No selections today.

michaelg 25th July 2008 10:25 AM

I am discontinuing the normal method as it has now dipped into the red.

However, I'll persist with the Neural Method as it has been performing quite well.

Today's selections:

Geelong:
Race 6 nos. 3, 6, 7, 10, 11, 12
Race 7 nos. 1, 2, 3, 5, 6, 9
Race 8 nos. 2, 3, 4, 6, 8, 12

Canberra:
Race 8 nos. 1, 2, 4, 7, 10, 11

Total outlay of $24.

michaelg 26th July 2008 10:52 AM

A good day yesterday - a profit of $5.90.

There have now been 209 selections for a POT of 41.53%.

Unfortunately the neural website is up to its old tricks again - I cannot currently access it.


Edit - I've finally been able to get into the website.

Today's selections:

Canterbury:
Race 5 nos. 4, 5, 6, 7, 12

Dombeen:
Race 2 nos. 1, 2, 9, 10, 12
Race 7 nos. 1, 2, 3, 4, 6, 9

Moonee Valley:
Race 4 nos. 1, 2, 3, 7, 12, 13, 14
Race 7 nos. 1, 3, 6, 7, 8, 9, 17

Cheltenham:
Race 8 nos. 1, 2, 4, 5, 7

Belmont:
Race 9 nos. 1, 4, 5, 8, 9, 13, 15

Townsville:
Race 6 nos. 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 13, 15, 16
Race 8 nos. 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 10, 17.

Outlay of $58.

michaelg 27th July 2008 10:10 AM

Unfortunately I forgot that Saturday racing is not in the method - see last Saturday's thread for confirmation of this. As it was, yesterday would have been a serious losing day which was not surprising.

Today's selections:

Sun Coast:
Race 4 nos. 2, 3, 4, 6, 9, 12

Moruya:
Race 6 nos. 1, 2, 3, 8, 9
Race 7 nos. 1, 2, 4, 6, 10

Scone:
Race 7 nos. 1, 2, 5, 6, 7, 12
Race 9 nos. 2, 3, 4, 7, 8, 14

Benalla:
Race 9 nos. 1, 5, 9, 12, 13, 15

Ballarat:
Race 8 nos. 6, 7, 9, 11, 15, 16

Outlay of $39.

michaelg 28th July 2008 10:30 AM

A win yesterday of $2.70.

Interestingly, there have now been 40 races for 19 successful quinellas for a profit of over $400.

Today's selections:

Port Macquarie:
Race 5 nos. 2, 3, 7, 8, 13, 14
Race 7 nos. 1, 4, 5, 6, 7, 12

Mildura:
Race 8 nos. 1, 3, 4, 7, 9, 10, 11
Race 9 nos. 3, 4, 5, 7, 8, 13, 15

Dubbo:
Race 1, 2, 5, 7, 8, 9, 11.

michaelg 29th July 2008 10:51 AM

Yesterday resulted in a loss of $3.60. Boxed quinellas a profit of $35.

There have now been 276 selections for a POT of 31.12%.

Today's selections:

Wyong:
Race 5 nos. 1, 2, 3, 6, 10, 12
Race 6 nos. 1, 2, 3, 4, 9
Race 8 nos. 2, 3, 5, 9, 11

Geelong:
Race 7 nos. 1, 2, 8, 10, 12
Race 9 nos. 4, 6, 7, 11, 14

Outlay of $26.

Crackone 29th July 2008 11:05 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by michaelg
Boxed quinellas a profit of $35.
What quinella would that be?

michaelg 29th July 2008 01:57 PM

Hi, Crackone.

It was Dubbo race 6 which I now notice paid only $86, I must have looked at the interim/partial pay dividend which showed $128. I will now amend my quinella results. As a matter of interest, I have just looked at some interim results (NSW TAB) and there are quite a few discrepancies when the final results are shown.

Unfortunately I omitted to show Dubbo's race number yesterday. Sorry about that.

michaelg 30th July 2008 11:06 AM

Yesterday the method lost $3.70.

There have now been 302 selections for a POT of 27.21%.

Today's selections:

Sandown:
Race 2 nos. 1, 3, 4, 9, 10
Race 5 nos. 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 10, 12
Race 6 nos. 2, 3, 4, 6, 7, 11
Race 7 nos. 1, 2, 3, 5, 8, 11

Murray Bridge;
Race 3 nos. 1, 2, 4, 8, 9, 12, 13, 14
Race 6 nos. 1, 2, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 12
Race 7 nos. 4, 6, 7, 8, 12, 13, 14

Eagle Farm:
Race 6 nos. 1, 2, 6, 8, 10
Race 7 nos. 3, 5, 8, 9, 11, 12
Race 8 nos. 2, 3, 8, 11, 12

Canterbury:
Race 6 nos. 1, 4, 5, 10, 11


Out of interest I checked yesterday's five races with the Unitab and also the DFS ratings. Unitab did not do much good but DFS selected the winner in the five races, with three quinellas which would have produced a good profit. So I've looked at DFS for today's races and also included the sprints which I don't with the Neural Method. We'll see how they go...

Today's selections:

Sandown
Race 2 nos. 1, 2, 3, 6, 8
Race 4 nos. 1, 4, 7, 9, 10, 11
Race 6 nos. 2, 3, 4, 5, 8, 16
Race 7 nos. 1, 2, 3, 5, 13, 15

Murray bridge:
Race 3 nos. 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 12, 16
Race 5 nos. 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 8
Race 6 nos. 1, 2, 3, 6, 9, 10, 11, 13
Race 7 nos. 2, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 14

Eagle Farm:
Race 6 nos. 1, 2, 5, 7, 9
Race 7 nos. 3, 4, 5, 6, 9, 12
Rcae 8 nos. 2, 3, 7, 10, 11

Canterbury:
Race 4 nos. 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7
Race 6 nos. 1, 2, 3, 8, 9
Race 7 nos. 2, 3, 7, 9, 11, 13

michaelg 31st July 2008 10:12 AM

A bad day yesterday - a loss of $14.20. That's three successive losing days.

There have now been 371 selections for a POT of 18.32%.

Today's selections:

Hawkesbury
Race 6 nos. 1, 2, 3, 4, 6, 8
Race 9 nos. 1, 2, 4, 6, 7, 12, 13

Sale
race 7 nos. 1, 2, 3, 5, 8, 10
Race 8 nos. 1, 2, 6, 9, 10, 11, 13

Ipswich
Race 8 nos. 2, 4, 6, 10, 11.

Outlay of $30.

michaelg 1st August 2008 10:01 AM

Another losing day yesterday - $8.30.

There have now been 402 selections for a POT of 14.85%. The reason why it is still in profit is solely due to the $65 winner. If it loses again today I'll have to rethink.

Today's selections:
Geelong
Race 6 nos. 3, 6, 7, 9, 10
Race 7 nos. 1, 2, 3, 6, 10
Race 8 nos. 2, 5, 6, 10, 11, 14
Race 9 nos. 2, 5, 6, 8, 9, 11

Tamworth
race 5 nos. 3, 4, 5, 8, 11, 12, 15
Race 6 nos. 2, 3, 4, 7, 8

Gold Coast
Race 7 nos. 2, 5, 7, 8, 9
Race 8 nos. 3, 4, 5, 7, 8, 9,13, 15

Queanbeyan
Race 7 nos. 1, 3, 4, 5, 6.


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