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Sportz 29th January 2009 01:37 PM

Group 1 Tipping comp (Autumn 2009)
 
Okay, we did something like this a couple of years ago. We'll just be concentrating on the group 1 races in Melbourne, Sydney and Adelaide until the end of April and you have to try to pick the first 4 horses in order. If you manage to do that you get a perfect score of 100 points, with progressively lower scores all the way down to zero if you don't get a single horse in the first 4. At the end of the autumn, the one with the most points is the winner. Here's the points system:

Points:
30 - Winner in the top 4 picks
15 - 2nd horse in the top 4 picks
10 - 3rd horse in the top 4 picks
5 - 4th horse in the top 4 picks

Bonus points:
20 - Winner rated on top
10 - Trifecta in order
10 - First 4 in order


This week's Group 1 race:

FLEM R6 - 2.46 COOLMORE LIGHTNING STAKES (1000 METRES)
1 APACHE CAT - Greg Eurell Corey Brown 6 58.5
2 WEEKEND HUSSLER - Ross McDonald Brad Rawiller 9 58.5
3 SWICK (NZ) - Bart Cummings Michael Rodd 4 58.5
4 TYPHOON ZED - Tim Martin Craig Williams 11 58.5
5 SCENIC BLAST - Daniel Morton Steven Arnold 1 58.5
6 SWISSACE - Mick Mair Ken Pope 5 58.5
7 GRAND DUELS - Byron Cozamanis Dwayne Dunn 3 58.5
8 SNAPPY TOM - Danielle Chapman Craig Newitt 10 58.5
9 SEVENTH ROCK - David Hayes Anton Marcus 7 58.5
10 LETMEENTERTAINYOU - Karen Byrnes Darren Gauci 2 58.5
11 WILANDER - Lee Freedman Kerrin McEvoy 8 55



When you post your picks, make sure to include a couple of reserve selections in case of scratchings. And make sure you list your horses (including reserves) in order of preference.

sportzfan 29th January 2009 02:26 PM

i'll have a go sportz
 
swick...apache cat...weekend hustler...wilander...typhoon zed (r1)...grand duels (r2)

Horse Whisperer 29th January 2009 11:24 PM

1 APACHE CAT - Greg Eurell Corey Brown 6 58.5
2 WEEKEND HUSSLER - Ross McDonald Brad Rawiller 9 58.5
6 SWISSACE - Mick Mair Ken Pope 5 58.5
11 WILANDER - Lee Freedman Kerrin McEvoy 8 55

5 SCENIC BLAST - Daniel Morton Steven Arnold 1 58.5
9 SEVENTH ROCK - David Hayes Anton Marcus 7 58.5

crash 30th January 2009 07:20 AM

Seventh Rock
Apache Cat
Grand Duels
Swick

Subs: Weekend Hussler, Letmeentertainyou

crash 30th January 2009 09:23 AM

Sportz,

Getting a 1st. 4 in order is a heck of a task that might not happen in the entire comp. period. How about first 4 boxed [it's a nice effort], 80 points?

As scoring is so far, 3 in the first 4 gets 55 and 4 in the first 4 gets only 60? There would be a massive difference on the tote between a [boxed] tri in 4 and a [boxed] 4 in 4 if you get my drift.

Sportz 30th January 2009 11:02 AM

I had a slightly different points system which I used when I did this previously, and it worked out absolutely perfectly. But unfortunately I've lost it. In any case, it was a bit complicated, and I wanted to make this system really easy for people to understand. So everyone could work out their own scores if they wanted to.

Also, I want to reward people for tipping the winner on top as well. Sure it's great to get a box trifecta or a box first 4, but those people shouldn't get a substantially bigger score than someone who manages to pick the winner on top.

Makybe Diva 30th January 2009 12:09 PM

2. Weekend Hussler
3. Swick
1. Apache Cat
11. Wilander

Reserves
6. Swiss aaa Go the Qlder!
4. Typhoon Zed

Sportz 30th January 2009 12:19 PM

Okay, how about this then. At least 70 points if you manage to get the box first 4, with an extra 30 points up for grabs if you're good enough to get them in order.

Points:
30 - Winner in top 4 picks
15 - 2nd horse in top 4 picks
10 - 3rd horse in top 4 picks
5 - 4th horse in top 4 picks

Bonus points:
10 - Winner rated on top
10 - Trifecta in order
10 - First 4 in order
10 - First 4 in top 4 picks

crash 30th January 2009 12:56 PM

Looks good!

Try Try Again 30th January 2009 01:18 PM

Weekend Hussler
Wilander
Apache Cat
Swick
Scenic Blast (r1)
Typhoon Zed (r2)

Try Try Again

Shaun 30th January 2009 02:03 PM

Is there a cut off time before race as i won't list mine untill scratchings are known

stugots 30th January 2009 03:31 PM

6 SWISSACE
1 APACHE CAT
11 WILANDER
2 WEEKEND HUSSLER

3 SWICK
4 TYPHOON ZED


got no idea whats with the A.C.E. showing as aaa??

Stix 30th January 2009 03:58 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Shaun
Is there a cut off time before race as i won't list mine untill scratchings are known

When you post your picks, make sure to include a couple of reserve selections in case of scratchings. And make sure you list your horses (including reserves) in order of preference.

Sportz 30th January 2009 04:31 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Shaun
Is there a cut off time before race as i won't list mine until scratchings are known


Half an hour before race time is the final deadline.

So I'll accept tips any time up until 1:16 Qld time tomorrow.

But even if you post them that late, still include a couple of reserves as you don't know what might happen at the barrier. (eg. 2007 Caulfield Cup)

Shaun 30th January 2009 04:49 PM

Stix.

I did understand that but my ratings are based on other runners in the race, my second pick may not become the first pick even if the first pick is scratched.

Sportz 30th January 2009 05:10 PM

Yeah, I understood what you meant. I'm in the same sort of situation. I'll be waiting till after scratchings too.

Chuck 30th January 2009 05:50 PM

Wilander
Apache Cat
Weekend Hussler
Typhoon Zed

(Swick)
(Seventh Rock)

Horse Whisperer 30th January 2009 10:14 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by HORSE WHISPERER
1 APACHE CAT - Greg Eurell Corey Brown 6 58.5
2 WEEKEND HUSSLER - Ross McDonald Brad Rawiller 9 58.5
6 SWISSACE - Mick Mair Ken Pope 5 58.5
11 WILANDER - Lee Freedman Kerrin McEvoy 8 55

5 SCENIC BLAST - Daniel Morton Steven Arnold 1 58.5
9 SEVENTH ROCK - David Hayes Anton Marcus 7 58.5


Sorry just wanted to amend mine so they are in order of preference.


6 SWISSACE - Mick Mair Ken Pope 5 58.5
11 WILANDER - Lee Freedman Kerrin McEvoy 8 55
1 APACHE CAT - Greg Eurell Corey Brown 6 58.5
2 WEEKEND HUSSLER - Ross McDonald Brad Rawiller 9 58.5

rabbitz 31st January 2009 05:53 AM

Apache cat
swick
weekend hussler
grand duels

subs
wilander
swiss aaa

Raw Instinct 31st January 2009 06:53 AM

Apache Cat
Typhoon Zed
Wilander
Swick

Sub
Weekend Hussler
Seventh Rock

allen 31st January 2009 08:51 AM

1 weekend hussler
2 apache cat
3 scenic blast
4 swiss aaa
5 wilander

wesmip1 31st January 2009 10:00 AM

In Order :

2 WEEKEND HUSSLER - Ross McDonald Brad Rawiller 9 58.5
1 APACHE CAT - Greg Eurell Corey Brown 6 58.5
6 SWISSACE - Mick Mair Ken Pope 5 58.5
9 SEVENTH ROCK - David Hayes Anton Marcus 7 58.5

4 TYPHOON ZED - Tim Martin Craig Williams 11 58.5
11 WILANDER - Lee Freedman Kerrin McEvoy 8 55
10 LETMEENTERTAINYOU - Karen Byrnes Darren Gauci 2 58.5
3 SWICK (NZ) - Bart Cummings Michael Rodd 4 58.5
7 GRAND DUELS - Byron Cozamanis Dwayne Dunn 3 58.5
5 SCENIC BLAST - Daniel Morton Steven Arnold 1 58.5
8 SNAPPY TOM - Danielle Chapman Craig Newitt 10 58.5

crash 31st January 2009 10:16 AM

Are you sure you got enough subs there Wespi?

maverick1993 31st January 2009 10:50 AM

Weekend Hussler
Wilander
Swick
Swissace

Subs
Apache Cat
Seventh Rock

Sportz 31st January 2009 10:56 AM

2 WEEKEND HUSSLER
1 APACHE CAT
11 WILANDER
3 SWICK

9 SEVENTH ROCK
4 TYPHOON ZED

Shaun 31st January 2009 11:14 AM

Apache Cat
Wilander
Seventh Rock
Scenic Blast

Weekend Hussler
Swissace

Sportz 31st January 2009 02:15 PM

Okay, well done to Allen and Shaun who had Scenic Blast. Bit of a wipeout for most....

32.5 - allen
32.5 - Shaun
20 - Chuck
17.5 - Raw Instinct
12.5 - Rabbitz
10 - crash
5 - Horse Whisperer
5 - Makybe Diva
5 - maverick1993
5 - Sportz
5 - sportzfan
5 - stugots
5 - Try Try Again
2.5 - wesmip1

Shaun 31st January 2009 02:28 PM

Sports, where did the half points come from?

Sportz 31st January 2009 02:42 PM

There was a dead heat for 4th. I awarded 2.5 points for both of the dead heaters.

Shaun 31st January 2009 02:58 PM

Ok, sorry i didn't even notice the dead heat.

Sportz 5th February 2009 04:19 PM

Okay guys, this week's race is the C.F ORR STAKES which has been shifted to Sunday to avoid the heat on Saturday.

CAUL R7 - 4.18 SPORTINGBET ORR STAKES (1400 METRES)
1 EL SEGUNDO (NZ) - Colin Little Luke Nolen 5 59
2 MALDIVIAN (NZ) - Mark Kavanagh Michael Rodd 2 59
3 MASTER O'REILLY (NZ) - Danny O'Brien Vlad Duric 3 59
4 NICONERO - David Hayes Brad Rawiller 4 59
5 SIRMIONE - Bart Cummings Steven Arnold 7 59
6 THESEO - Gai Waterhouse Nash Rawiller 6 59
7 FIUMICINO (NZ) - Michael, Wayne & John Hawkes Steven King 1 59
8 ALAMOSA (NZ) - Mick Price Damien Oliver 8 59
9 LIGHT FANTASTIC - Mick Price Craig Newitt 9 59
10 BAUGHURST - Bill & Symon Wilde Nicholas Hall (a) 10 59
11 ZARITA (NZ) - Pat Hyland Dwayne Dunn 11 57
12 VON COSTA DE HERO - David Hayes Kerrin McEvoy 12 55.5

Remember, your top 4 selections in order, then 2 reserves in case of scratchings.

Cut off time is half an hour before the race, so that's 3:48 or 2:48 Qld time.

allen1 6th February 2009 11:27 AM

1 Light fantastic
2 El Segundo
3 Baughurst
4 Fumicino

1st reserve Theseo
2nd res Niconero

regards
Allen

rabbitz 6th February 2009 11:58 AM

1.Theseo
2.Light fantastic
3.Von Costa de hero
4.El segundo

subs
Nico nero
Baughurst

Chuck 6th February 2009 05:20 PM

Light Fantastic
Alamosa
El Segundo
Von Costa De Hero

Niconero
Theseo
Maldivian

Horse Whisperer 6th February 2009 09:36 PM

LIGHT FANTASTIC
MALDIVIAN
NICONERO
EL SEGUNDO

RES VCDH
THESEO

crash 7th February 2009 07:20 AM

LF should win but with no pace in this race the placings are a bit of a guess.

Light Fantastic
Alamosa
Maldivian
El Segundo

Niconero, Zarita

stugots 7th February 2009 08:42 AM

12 VON COSTA DE HERO
9 LIGHT FANTASTIC
1 EL SEGUNDO
8 ALAMOSA

6 THESEO
5 SIRMIONE

Ill Get There 7th February 2009 02:41 PM

mine if i can join in guys

Caulfield Race 7 1400m

No Horse
6 Theseo
4 Niconero
2 Maldivian
12 Von Costa De Hero
1 El Segundo
8 Alamosa

Raw Instinct 7th February 2009 03:41 PM

#9 Light Fantastic
#2 Maldivian
#4 Niconero
#5 Sirmione

Subs
#1 El Segundo
#3 Master O'Reilly

Try Try Again 7th February 2009 05:20 PM

#2 Maldivian
#9 Light Fantastic
#6 Theseo
#8 Alamosa

#1 El Segundo
#4 Niconero

Very interesting race with maybe Maldivian leading all the way?

Try Try Again


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