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partypooper 18th August 2009 02:50 PM

Quinellas
 
I've never bet exotics, but recently when researching a win method backing 3 per race, which was going nowhere; I noticed that it was jagging the quinella very often and the better payout is getting my attention.

My question is : is there a rule of thumb as where to bet quinellas? similar to say Sportbets' best of 3 or SP (for the win that is)

Bhagwan 19th August 2009 04:02 AM

I was reading some where that races with exactly 9 runners offered the best win / risk ratio for quinellas.

Bhagwan 19th August 2009 04:36 AM

Does anybody have any interesting quinella plans they wish to share?

Stix 19th August 2009 11:15 AM

Remember someone posted a method that you find interesting...or not!

Take Radio-Tips and box them in exacta, increasing stake until profit hit.
Box Selections 1,2,3 in exacta for $3 (1/2 unit) - misses then Box Selections 1,2,3 in exacta for $6 (1 unit) on next race and so on and so forth....

Someonelese had also said to stop at 5 races to minimise loses....

Something to work with...??

partypooper 19th August 2009 01:20 PM

STIX, funny that was exactly what I was working on.(Radio tips) But what I wanted to know is there anywhere that one can get a better deal on quinellas (or exactas) than the tote? or is one tote better than another/ home tote over away tote etc. etc. anyone?

Stix 19th August 2009 01:56 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by partypooper
STIX, funny that was exactly what I was working on.(Radio tips) But what I wanted to know is there anywhere that one can get a better deal on quinellas (or exactas) than the tote? or is one tote better than another/ home tote over away tote etc. etc. anyone?
Pass, think most use home tote.... the ones I know of anyway!

luv2bet 19th August 2009 02:51 PM

i looked at this and found the quinellas do a lot better than aa. I looked at standing the first pick out from the next 2 in quinellas. 1 unit is $2. not too sure how it goes with gallops but works very well with chariots and dishy's. Elimate maidens and weaker class races and it shows a profit most days.

luv2bet 19th August 2009 08:10 PM

I recall this worked best on the dogs. just checked todays races, some super results albian park and sandown park..

luv2bet 20th August 2009 01:20 PM

one dog meet run for the day so far and showed a profit (ascot park)

thorns 20th August 2009 01:44 PM

So if there is 3 tips for eg 7,6,1

You take 7 for the win, then 6 and 1 to run 2nd?

luv2bet 21st August 2009 08:04 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by thorns
So if there is 3 tips for eg 7,6,1

You take 7 for the win, then 6 and 1 to run 2nd?



yep thats right, i think it would even work better standing the shortest price tipped runner. I looked through a lot of results a while ago and didnt look to bad. It shows way better results than boxing the 3.
Another one i found worked quite well and throws up some big divvies was in the chariots. Take the 3 tips from radiotab/paper etc and stand out the favourite to run 2nd in an e x a c t a.. then put the other 2 selections to win. Once again $2 for one unit, ive had $70+ divvies.
good luck.

luv2bet 21st August 2009 02:16 PM

yesterday chariot results...
penrith
out 16
in 35.3

g coast
out 16
in 72.4

ararat
out 16
in 0

newcastle
out 18
in 56.9

maryborough
out 16
in 11.7

total
out 82
in 176.3

not bad, these results are not unusual.
out of 3 tips stand the shortest priced one(favourite) out for 2nd.

crash 21st August 2009 05:11 PM

Your looking at 25% TAB take-out for exotics Party. Thats a big whack to overcome before a profit. Do the maths as I'm sure the have!

Mancunian 21st August 2009 06:39 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by luv2bet

not bad, these results are not unusual.
out of 3 tips stand the shortest priced one(favourite) out for 2nd.


Sure looks promising L2B

Were these Quinellas or Exactas ?

Cheers ...Mancunian

partypooper 21st August 2009 09:15 PM

Crash, yes that's what I mean, I'm sure theres a better deal somewhere, but also I'm told that the divies are better than the actual odds ? confusing!

crash 22nd August 2009 06:33 AM

A better deal Party? What, you want money for jam? :-)

Any of the NT bookie sites run exotics [when their not concentrating on their 140% win books]? I don't think you'll find an easier hurdle than the TAB 25% exotic take-out to overcome. The only thing the TAB has going for them is their better odds than any bookie on the long shots.

If you can aim [and succeed long term] in at least 1 horse at odds getting up in the quins. a profit might be made if no more than a 3 horses quin. cost average is kept to. No easy task!

Just my .002c worth anyway.

luv2bet 22nd August 2009 07:17 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mancunian
Sure looks promising L2B

Were these Quinellas or Exactas ?

Cheers ...Mancunian


these results were for exactas mate.
its just relying on some big divvies to show a profit. very low s/r but jags some big ones. Standing out in quinella is a good way to go too.

partypooper 22nd August 2009 05:16 PM

Crash, yes of course. But you have been "aware" I think a lot longer than me. Although I've been on the punt for many years, I didn't (or maybe didn't want to) understand the mathes involved.

But if you can get the best Tote OR SP whichever is higher on an every day bet...... why not? I'm just looking for the best divi I can get for the quinella.

Also I doubt if they would be holding a 140% book at Top Fluc, all runners? I have on quite a few occasions backed every horse in a race @ less than 100%, (by taking the BEST odds on offer for each horse, different bookies) not winning a fortune but it's a great feeling.

Bhagwan 22nd August 2009 10:46 PM

Check out Dialabet & Betezy for their advertised higher Quinella divs.

luv2bet 23rd August 2009 12:56 PM

saturdays dog quinella results for the 3 meets

outlay 58
return 90

luv2bet 23rd August 2009 01:02 PM

sat trot exacta method

out 84
in 95


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