Fantasy Racing Comp (Spring 2009)
Just posting this now as a word of warning for you to start thinking about what horses are going to win the big ones. I'm going to open up this comp after Saturday's races, and it will run on all group 1 & group 2 races run in Sydney & Melbourne between next Saturday (Sep 12) and the end of the Melbourne Cup carnival. It's going to be based on scoring points for finishing in the first 4 in each of these feature races. Ohhh and something a bit different this time. We have a trainer and a jockey in our stable as well who earn points for us.
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Okay, here we go. Firstly here's the list of races we'll be using for our comp....
The numbers in brackets are the points that go to the horses finishing 1st, 2nd, 3rd & 4th, then the points that go to the winning trainer, then the winning jockey. Sep12-09 M. Valley Manikato Stakes 1200m Open WFA (16,8,4,2) (8) (4) M. Valley W H Stocks Stakes 1600m WFA (8,4,2,1) (4) (2) M. Valley Dato Tan Chin Nam Stakes 1600m WFA (8,4,2,1) (4) (2) M. Valley McEwen Stakes 1000m WFA (8,4,2,1) (4) (2) Rosehill Theo Marks Stakes 1300m Quality Hcp (8,4,2,1) (4) (2) Sep19-09 Caulfield Sir Rupert Clarke Stakes 1400m Open Hcp (16,8,4,2) (8) (4) Caulfield Underwood Stakes 1800m 3yo+ WFA (16,8,4,2) (8) (4) Rosehill Tea Rose Stakes 1500m 3yoF SW (8,4,2,1) (4) (2) Rosehill Shannon Stakes 1500m Quality Hcp (8,4,2,1) (4) (2) Rosehill Hill Stakes 1900m WFA (8,4,2,1) (4) (2) Sep25/26-09 M. Valley Stutt Stakes 1600m 3yo SW (8,4,2,1) (4) (2) Randwick George Main Stakes 1600m WFA (16,8,4,2) (8) (4) Randwick Stan Fox Stakes 1400m 3yo SW (8,4,2,1) (4) (2) Oct03-09 Flemington Turnbull Stakes 2000m 4yo+ SWP (24,12,6,3) (12) (6) Flemington Rose of Kingston Stakes 1400ma Mares SW+P (8,4,2,1) (4) (2) Flemington Gilgai Stakes 1200ma Open SW+P (8,4,2,1) (4) (2) Flemington Edward Manifold Stakes 1600ma 3yoF SW (8,4,2,1) (4) (2) Randwick Epsom Handicap 1600m 3yo+ Hcp (16,8,4,2) (8) (4) Randwick Flight Stakes 1600m 3yoF SW (16,8,4,2) (8) (4) Randwick Spring Champion Stakes 2000m 3yo SW (16,8,4,2) (8) (4) Randwick The Metropolitan 2400m 3yo+ Hcp (16,8,4,2) (8) (4) Randwick Roman Consul Stakes 1200ma 3yo SW (8,4,2,1) (4) (2) Randwick The Shorts 1100ma Open SW+P (8,4,2,1) (4) (2) Oct10-09 Caulfield Caulfield Guineas 1600m 3yo SW (32,16,8,4) (16) (8) Caulfield Yalumba Stakes 1600m Open Hcp (16,8,4,2) (8) (4) Caulfield Toorak Handicap 2000m 3yo+ WFA (16,8,4,2) (8) (4) Caulfield Schillaci Stakes 1000ma WFA (8,4,2,1) (4) (2) Caulfield Presentation Stakes 2400ma Quality Hcp (8,4,2,1) (4) (2) Oct14-09 Caulfield Thousand Guineas 1600m 3yoF SW (24,12,6,3) (12) (6) Oct17-09 Caulfield Caulfield Cup 2400m Open Hcp (48,24,12,6) (24) (12) Caulfield Tristarc Stakes 1400ma Mares SW+P (8,4,2,1) (4) (2) Caulfield Caulfield Sprint 1100ma Open Hcp (8,4,2,1) (4) (2) Oct24-09 M. Valley Ws Cox Plate 2040m 3yo+ WFA (32,16,8,4) (16) (8) M. Valley Cathay Pacific Airways Cup 2500ma Open SW+P (8,4,2,1) (4) (2) M. Valley Schweppes Stakes 1200ma WFA (8,4,2,1) (4) (2) M. Valley AAMI Vase 2040ma 3yo SW (8,4,2,1) (4) (2) M. Valley Crystal Mile 1600ma Open Hcp (8,4,2,1) (4) (2) Oct31-09 Flemington Myer Classic 1200m 3yo SW (24,12,6,3) (12) (6) Flemington LKS Mackinnon Stakes 2000m Open WFA (24,12,6,3) (12) (6) Flemington Coolmore Stud Stakes 1600m F&M WFA (24,12,6,3) (12) (6) Flemington AAMI Victoria Derby 2500m 3yo SW (40,20,10,5) (20) (10) Flemington Wakeful Stakes 2000ma 3yoF SW (8,4,2,1) (4) (2) Flemington Salinger Stakes 1200ma Open Hcp (8,4,2,1) (4) (2) Nov03-09 Flemington Melbourne Cup 3200m Open Hcp (64,32,16,8) (32) (16) Nov05-09 Flemington Crown Oaks 2500m 3yoF SW (32,16,8,4) (16) (8) Nov07-09 Flemington Age Classic 1200m Open WFA (24,12,6,3) (12) (6) Flemington Emirates Stakes 1600m Open Qlty (32,16,8,4) (16) (8) Flemington Matriach Stakes 2000ma Mares SW+P (8,4,2,1) (4) (2) |
The first thing we have to do is pick our 3 "stable stars" and our trainer.
The "stable stars" are 3 horses that we pick now and they stay with us right through to the end of the comp, injury, poor form whatever. You get double points for your stable stars. As well as picking these 3 horses, we also have to pick a trainer for our stable, and again, your trainer stays with you right to the end of the comp. We will be able to pick a different jockey each race day, but only one trainer for the whole duration of the comp, so we have to choose wisely. Now, each horse, trainer and jockey is given a rating out of 5 points, and the salary cap for this first part of the comp is 15 points. In other words, we have to find 3 "stable stars" AND a trainer and they must add up to no more than 15 points in total. I've listed 100 horses and 20 trainers here, but you can choose a horse or trainer that I haven't listed if you want and that will cost you just 1 point. There are possibly some good horses which I've left out by mistake, in which case, you have a bargain. Here's the list...... STABLE STARS 5 . DENMAN 5 . SPEED GIFTED 5 . VIGOR 5 . WHOBEGOTYOU 4 . BLACK CAVIAR 4 . BLACK PIRANHA 4 . C'EST LE GUERRE 4 . EFFICIENT 4 . EL SEGUNDO 4 . HEART OF DREAMS 4 . MALDIVIAN 4 . MASTER O'REILLY 4 . MIC MAC 4 . O'LONHRO 4 . PREDATORY PRICER 4 . PROFOUND BEAUTY 4 . SHOCKING 4 . TRUSTING 4 . TYPHOON TRACY 4 . VIEWED 3 . APACHE CAT 3 . CARRARA 3 . CHANGINGOFTHEGUARD 3 . DAFFODIL 3 . GALLICA 3 . HISSING SID 3 . JOLIE'S SHINJU 3 . MANHATTAN RAIN 3 . MELITO 3 . MENTALITY 3 . METAL BENDER 3 . MORE THAN GREAT 3 . MOTI 3 . NEROLI 3 . NOM DE JEU 3 . ONEMORENOMORE 3 . ORTENSIA 3 . PRECEDENCE 3 . RACING TO WIN 3 . RAFFAELLO 3 . RANGIRANGDOO 3 . RED RULER 3 . ROCK KINGDOM 3 . ROMAN EMPEROR 3 . SCENIC BLAST 3 . SO YOU THINK 3 . SWIFT ALLIANCE 3 . TOLLESPRIT 3 . TRIPLE HONOUR 3 . TUESDAY JOY 3 . VISION AND POWER 3 . ZIPPING 2 . AGE OF AQUARIUS 2 . ALOHA 2 . AVENUE 2 . BANK ROBBER 2 . BATTLEFIELD 2 . CAT'S WHISKER 2 . CHASM 2 . COURT COMMAND 2 . DREAMSCAPE 2 . DRUMBEATS 2 . EL CAMBIO 2 . EMPEROR BONAPARTE 2 . FIST OF FURY 2 . GOLD SALUTE 2 . HARRIS TWEED 2 . HEADWAY 2 . HUS DER LIEFTEN 2 . HUXSSEN 2 . IRISH LIGHTS 2 . ISTA KAREEM 2 . LORD TAVISTOCK 2 . MISS MAREN 2 . MISS MARIELLE 2 . MORE JOYOUS 2 . MOURILYAN 2 . MR BARITONE 2 . MR CLANGTASTIC 2 . NICCONI 2 . PHELAN READY 2 . PRE EMINENCE 2 . RAHEEB 2 . RAREFIED 2 . READY TO LIFT 2 . ROSTOVA 2 . SCHIAPARELLI 2 . SEA BATTLE 2 . SECRET FLYER 2 . STARSPANGLEDBANNER 2 . STONEBLACK 2 . STRAT'S FLYER 2 . SWISS ACE 2 . TICKETS 2 . TURFFONTEIN 2 . TYPHOON ZED 2 . UNSUNG HEROINE 2 . VOICE COACH 2 . WANTED 2 . ZAGREB 1 . Any other horse not listed here. TRAINER 5 . DAVID HAYES 5 . LEE FREEDMAN 5 . PETER SNOWDEN 4 . DANNY O'BRIEN 4 . GAI WATERHOUSE 4 . MARK KAVANAGH 4 . PETER MOODY 3 . BART CUMMINGS 3 . GREG EURELL 3 . JOHN HAWKES 3 . JOHN SADLER 3 . MICK PRICE 2 . ANTHONY CUMMINGS 2 . CHRIS WALLER 2 . DAVID PAYNE 2 . GERALD RYAN 2 . GRAEME ROGERSON 2 . JASON COYLE 2 . JOSEPH PRIDE 2 . PAUL MURRAY 1 . Any other trainer not listed here. You have until Midnight Wednesday, September 9 to post your entries with your 3 stable stars and your trainer. Then on Thursday, we start choosing horses and a jockey for next Saturday's racing. |
sounds interesting sportz..
trainer..david hayes (5)..stable stars..master o'reilly (4)..mic mac (4)..cat's whisker (2).. |
STABLE STARS
5 . VIGOR 4 . MASTER O'REILLY 2 . SEA BATTLE TRAINER 4 . DANNY O'BRIEN Good Luck... |
1. speed gifted
2. trusting 3. raheeb trainer mark kavanagh |
Trainer
Mark kavanagh(4) Stable Cest la guerre(4) Mic mac(4) Melito(3) |
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Jason Coyle has been replaced as head trainer for Nathan Tinkler, so I'm making a change to the list here and putting in the new trainer - John Thompson. TRAINER 5 . DAVID HAYES 5 . LEE FREEDMAN 5 . PETER SNOWDEN 4 . DANNY O'BRIEN 4 . GAI WATERHOUSE 4 . MARK KAVANAGH 4 . PETER MOODY 3 . BART CUMMINGS 3 . GREG EURELL 3 . JOHN HAWKES 3 . JOHN SADLER 3 . MICK PRICE 2 . ANTHONY CUMMINGS 2 . CHRIS WALLER 2 . DAVID PAYNE 2 . GERALD RYAN 2 . GRAEME ROGERSON 2 . JOSEPH PRIDE 2 . PAUL MURRAY 2 . JOHN THOMPSON 1 . Any other trainer not listed here. |
Also, Black Caviar has had a setback and a start in the Thousand Guineas is in doubt now.
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SPEED GIFTED - 5
SO YOU THINK - 3 TUESDAY JOY - 3 MARK KAVANAGH - 4 |
G'day Sportz. FYI, the Manikato Stakes will be held 25th September, not this weekend.
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Okay, yeah, thanks for that.
I was confused about that one. In some places, it was listed as this week. In some other places, it was listed as the 25th. I wasn't sure what it was! In any case, all the races listed will still be run. Everybody make sure to get your entries in by tomorrow night. |
Trainer
4- Mark Kavanagh Horses 5- Whobegotyou 4 Mic Mac 2- Starspangledbanner |
I'm in :D
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4 . MARK KAVANAGH
5 . WHOBEGOTYOU 3 . TUESDAY JOY 1 . HOT DANISH |
Ahhh, Hot Danish. Did mean to put her in the list, but must have forgotten.
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lucky i'm here to keep you on your toes ;) |
Speed Gifted (5)
Black Piranha (4) Daffodil (3) Greg Eurell (3) |
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actually i'll change to this: 4 . MARK KAVANAGH 5 . WHOBEGOTYOU 5 . SPEED GIFTED 1 . HOT DANISH |
4 . MARK KAVANAGH
5 . SPEED GIFTED 3 . MANHATTAN RAIN 3 . ROMAN EMPEROR |
4 . EFFICIENT
4 . EL SEGUNDO 3 . TUESDAY JOY 4 . PETER MOODY |
Hi Boys. I'm back
Thanks for the e-mail sportz Denman C'est Le Guerre Mic Mac Chris Waller |
Email???
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5 . Vigor
3 . Roman Emperor 3 . So You Think 4 . Mark Kavanagh |
5. Vigor
5. Speed Gifted 2. Headway 3. Bart Cummings |
samboss
Gday sportz im phelan ready mate
STABLE PHELAN READY CATS WHISKER TUESDAY JOY TRAINER PETER SNOWDEN |
Thanks mate. Wow. 3 points to spare. I couldn't manage that.
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Okay, here we go for week one. A pretty quiet start to ease us into things. Just 3 group 2 races........
Here's what we have to do. We have to choose 3 horses and 1 jockey and the total points must not be more than 15. Important to note that you don't have to pick one horse from each race. You can pick 3 horses from the same race if you wish. You just have to pick 3 horses and 1 jockey. Just so that nobody is advantaged or disadvantaged by scratchings, the deadline for posting your selections is 7:30 Saturday morning (scratching time). I don't know how many of you will be up and about then, so I strongly suggest you try to get your selections in by Friday night. With regards to scratchings, if you pick a horse that comes out, that is just bad luck. You don't get a reserve pick or another go or anything like that. Anyway, here are the races we're looking at this week and the list of horses we can choose: Rosehill Theo Marks Stakes 1300m Quality Hcp (8,4,2,1) (4) (2) 5 RACING TO WIN 5 TRIPLE HONOUR 4 MR BARITONE 4 DREAMSCAPE 4 ROCK KINGDOM 3 MENTALITY 2 FRIDAY CREEK 2 BRYANNBO'S GIFT 2 EQUABLE 1 any other runner M. Valley Dato Tan Chin Nam Stakes 1600m WFA (8,4,2,1) (4) (2) 5 EL SEGUNDO 5 MIC MAC 5 WHOBEGOTYOU 4 JOLIE'S SHINJU 3 SEA BATTLE 2 EFFICIENT 2 ZIPPING 2 MAGICAL PEARL 1 any other runner M. Valley W H Stocks Stakes 1600m WFA (8,4,2,1) (4) (2) 5 CATS WHISKER 5 ZARITA 4 MISS MAREN 4 GALLICA 3 SPARKLING SATINE 2 PARTIVA 2 RUNNING RIOT 2 WITH APOLOGIES 2 LEICA DING 2 MARCHELLE BELLE 1 any other runner Jockeys: 4 Damien Oliver 4 Danny Nikolic 4 Steven King 3 Corey Brown 3 Dwayne Dunn 3 Hugh Bowman 3 Luke Nolen 2 Blake Shinn 2 Daniel Ganderton 2 Glen Boss 2 Jay Ford 2 Jim Cassidy 2 Kerrin McEvoy 2 Peter Robl 2 Ronnie Stewart 2 Steven Arnold 1 any other jockey Don't forget that deadline of 7:30 Sat morning. |
G'day Sportz.
Should we post selections here, or send them to you via email? And are we doing the McEwan, Research and Kingston Town Stakes Races as well, or are we just sticking to the Group 1 and 2 races?
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yeah Sportz, and in case you were wondering my iPhone works fine.... |
Ohhh, that rotten spam email. Sorry guys. I honestly don't know what happened there. My computer went silly with that damn thing.
And I don't even have an iPhone!!! |
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Just post them here. And yes, it's only group 1 & group 2 races. I will post all the races you have to worry about. That list of races on page 1 of this thread won't be totally correct as some races may have been downgraded recently to group 3 or some others upgraded to group 2. |
In any case, with the jockeys going out on strike, perhaps there may not be any races on Saturday to bother about.
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jockey..damien oliver..
theo marks..triple honour.. dato tan chin nam..baughurst.. w h stocks..cats whisker.. |
EL SEGUNDO
CATS WHISKER GALLICA ANY OTHER JOCKEY |
No, sorry mate. You can't just say "any other jockey". You have to actually nominate one.
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Looks like Saturday's races are still on. But after that, who knows? |
dreamscape
el segundo sparkling satine Luke nolen |
sorry thought it was like the jockeys challenge cause you had listed almost every one of them. All good ill have Eddie Cassar
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Is it ok if I make a change to mine sportz?
Ill have instead EL SEGUNDO RACING TO WIN SPARKLING SATINE NOEL CALLOW Thanks |
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