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Ill Get There 4th September 2009 04:01 PM

Auto Bot Laying
 
Does anyone one have a bot

my ? is with a bank large enough..how can one lose

so base bet is $2

bank $20000

recovery 50% 0ver 2 bets

let it run with any method

pretty unlucky if one has a prob


target ???..........

i know about 6 in a row

i have had one and recovered

you either do it or you run scared and pull the pin and never win

any thoughts...

Reckless 4th September 2009 08:27 PM

The type of laying method used by member Mark (see thread Openers by Request) could be well suited by a BOT for laying. Or at least the market odds part of that method.

Provided the BOT was programmable and capable of taking odds from about 3 sources and doing the neccesary calculations it could work well.

I am assuming the BOT has the capability of changing the staking rules where a recovery becomes needed.

Shaun 5th September 2009 01:41 AM

Not exactly sure where this thread is going but i have used a few different methods in making a bot mostly excel and an API betfair product, i have done some work with AHK and using com functions to control webpage input and plan to test it with TAB and bookies sites to see if i can automate some betting tasks.

goty0405 5th September 2009 08:25 AM

I am a little unsure of what you meant in original post but pretty much anything you want can be done by a bot.

There are plentyof existing products (some for money, some free) and a couple of these allow you to automatic commands using VBA and excel. These are pretty good for the bot beginner and normally all have a free trial period. I'd recommend starting there to get some ideas.

Personally my friend and I wrote our own bot because nothing on the marketplace did exactly what we wanted and we wanted full control over it. It was a long process as we could only do it after hours so if you go down this path you need to be committed, but if you have a unique idea it could be worth it.

Bhagwan 6th September 2009 02:17 AM

The Bot I use & recommend is BetBotPro.
For laying as well as backing.
Aust , UK & US markets.

Its easy to set up & use , unlike many of the others .
It also has a recovery program in it that can do exactly what you are doing .

There are other staking plans as well including the Maria staking plan.

It has its own forum for registered users where ideas are shared.

It also has a free trial.

Cost 70 pounds.

Ill Get There 7th September 2009 02:20 AM

DAY ONE


TRIAL ONE

Market InfoSelectionsWinnerLay PricesProfit/Loss
True06 September 10:34 BST PBarrPremier Park
True06 September 10:43 BST HovePhysco Jay Tee
True06 September 10:48 BST PBarr6. Sourhill Cha
True06 September 10:58 BST Hove5. Katie Two 4. Shandon Max5. Katie Two|M0.25@7.600.25
True06 September 11:04 BST PBarr6. Surelines Driver 1. Treaty County6. Surelines Driver|M0.25@7.200.25
True06 September 11:13 BST Hove4. Jamaican Firefly
True06 September 11:18 BST PBarr6. Kahara Desert 4. Highfire Blue6. Kahara Desert|M0.25@6.600.25
True06 September 11:27 BST Hove5. Wayward Tel 3. Lols Lee5. Wayward Tel|M0.25@7.200.25
True06 September 11:32 BST PBarr6. Huggies Lord 4. Schofield Kenny6. Huggies Lord|M0.25@7.000.25
True06 September 11:42 BST Hove3. Farmers Mate 6. Swift Osprey3. Farmers Mate|M0.03@6.80|M0.22@6.800.25
True06 September 11:47 BST PBarr2. Sams Boy 5. Codeword2. Sams Boy|M0.25@6.400.25
True06 September 11:58 BST Hove4. Cushie Lady 6. Disguised Choice4. Cushie Lady|M0.25@7.200.25
True06 September 12:04 BST PBarr4. Kilcarrig Jack 1. Ardcoohig Emma4. Kilcarrig Jack|M0.25@8.000.25
True06 September 12:12 BST Hove1. Lets Shine 2. Westmead Sam1. Lets Shine|M0.25@6.800.25
True06 September 12:19 BST PBarr4. Tyrur Cassie 1. Dalcash Scholes4. Tyrur Cassie|M0.25@5.900.25
True06 September 12:27 BST Hove2. Natural Buzz 4. Downdaniel Earl2. Natural Buzz|M0.25@7.200.25
True06 September 12:33 BST PBarr2. Clonakenny Mary 6. Kewells Wish2. Clonakenny Mary|M0.25@7.600.25
True06 September 12:44 BST Hove2. Sheer Indulgence 3. Tidy Jules2. Sheer Indulgence|M0.25@6.400.25
True06 September 12:51 BST PBarr6. Pluckanes Mike
True06 September 12:58 BST Hove6. Corrib Magic 1. Finlays Meadows6. Corrib Magic|M0.25@6.600.25
True06 September 13:06 BST PBarr4. Six Gold Bars 5. Similar Sound4. Six Gold Bars|M0.25@7.000.25
True06 September 13:12 BST Hove5. Good Lark
True06 September 13:21 BST Oxfd2. Spike Preview
True06 September 13:28 BST Kinsl1. Highview Jet 1. Highview Jet1. Highview Jet|M0.25@5.80 -1.20
True06 September 13:38 BST Oxfd5. Suil Star 5. Suil Star5. Suil Star|M1.45@6.00 -7.25
True06 September 13:44 BST Kinsl6. Watchdog
True06 September 13:52 BST Oxfd5. Gorbals Blueboy Bridgets Love (Res)5. Gorbals Blueboy|M8.70@6.608.70
True06 September 13:58 BST Kinsl3. Snipers Half Lit Minglers Mobile (Res)3. Snipers Half Lit|M0.25@6.200.25
True06 September 14:06 BST Oxfd4. Shelbourne Duffy 2. Hycos Tiger4. Shelbourne Duffy|M0.25@7.400.25
True06 September 14:13 BST Kinsl1. Wee Poker Face 2. Markeys Vixen1. Wee Poker Face|M0.25@6.800.25
True06 September 14:22 BST Oxfd4. Emly Park 6. Pennys Ford4. Emly Park|M0.25@7.400.25
True06 September 14:27 BST Kinsl2. April Sarah Daisyfield Mel (Res)2. April Sarah|M0.25@6.800.25
True06 September 14:37 BST Oxfd1. Ringsend Rogue 1. Ringsend Rogue1. Ringsend Rogue|M0.25@6.80 -1.45
True06 September 14:43 BST Kinsl1. Dromlara Cahill 3. Mistley Hall1. Dromlara Cahill|M1.18@7.60|M0.52@7.801.70
True06 September 14:53 BST Oxfd4. Cahermore Tucks 2. Romily Flash4. Cahermore Tucks|M0.25@7.600.25
True06 September 14:59 BST Kinsl6. Paddys Ferrari 2. Walworth Ryan6. Paddys Ferrari|M0.25@6.200.25
True06 September 15:08 BST Oxfd4. Ardmayle Bid 5. Wrong Road4. Ardmayle Bid|M0.25@7.400.25
True06 September 15:14 BST Kinsl5. Fine Star 1. Coxgreen Black5. Fine Star|M0.25@8.000.25
True06 September 15:22 BST Oxfd3. Crown Simba
True06 September 15:28 BST Kinsl3. Athlacca Eagle 4. Harkins Flyer3. Athlacca Eagle|M0.19@6.20|M0.06@6.400.25
True06 September 15:37 BST Oxfd6. Jo Jo Go 3. Killishin Big6. Jo Jo Go|M0.25@7.000.25
True06 September 15:46 BST Kinsl2. Orchid Girl 4. Socks Kelly2. Orchid Girl|M0.20@6.80|M0.05@6.800.25
True06 September 15:54 BST Oxfd4. Blondies aaaaa 1. Twiggys Best4. Blondies aaaaa|M0.25@7.800.25
True06 September 16:04 BST Kinsl1. Minty Kim 3. Five Fiddlers1. Minty Kim|M0.25@7.800.25
True06 September 16:11 BST Oxfd3. Broadacres Saba
True06 September 16:18 BST Kinsl1. Shelbourne Prime 5. Butterbridge Zee1. Shelbourne Prime|M0.25@7.600.25
True06 September 16:27 BST Oxfd3. Lahana Premier 2. General Classic3. Lahana Premier|M0.25@7.600.25
True06 September 16:33 BST Kinsl5. Galway Bell 6. Wicklow Head5. Galway Bell|M0.25@6.400.25
True06 September 16:44 BST Oxfd6. Hey Martina 4. Princess Trixi6. Hey Martina|M0.25@7.400.25
True06 September 16:49 BST Kinsl5. Granahan Blueboy 3. Coonough Classic5. Granahan Blueboy|M0.25@7.800.25

goty0405 7th September 2009 06:33 AM

Recovering staking is quite risky, espeically for lay betting.

In the bets listed from yesterday there were 2 consecutive losing bets but it meant the stake had grown from 0.25 to 8.70...matched at 6.60 the total risk was $48.72. If that bet turned out to be a losing one then trouble is brewing...the next lay is over $50 meaning a risk of around $375 based on the average prices matched.

And that's only 3 consecutive losing bets! I'd hate to see 4...

Even a system with a 90% strike rate has a 25% chance of a losing run being 4 bets. That means, in theory, 1 in every 4 losing runs will hit 4.

Bhagwan 12th September 2009 03:02 AM

That's true if betting to recover 100% over 1 bet.
Very risky if bit 3 in a row which can & does happen.

What works better, is target
120%
Over 2-6 bets.

e.g.
60% x 2bts
or
40% x 3bts
or
30% x 4bts
or
24% x 5 bts
or
20% x 6bts


Using 6 cycles.

That way it makes a profit over a series of successful bets & takes into account the commission as well.

Of course the longer the bet sequence , the greater the chance of being bit again but less exposure each time we are bit.

Bet ratio 1000/1

Ill Get There 12th September 2009 07:15 AM

tried this last nite odds 6-8 any dogs uk and with out recovery got no where.

True11 September 10:03 BST Oxfd3. Ardmayle Trooper 6. Squashedtomatoes3. Ardmayle Trooper|M0.08@6.60|M3.54@6.603.62
True11 September 10:11 BST Hove5. Journey Star
True11 September 10:19 BST Oxfd4. Smile On Sveta
True11 September 10:28 BST Hove2. Reagrove Maeve 1. Monkspath Moonie2. Reagrove Maeve|M3.50@6.803.50
True11 September 10:34 BST Oxfd6. Farran Giggs 6. Farran Giggs6. Farran Giggs|M3.28@7.00-19.68
True11 September 10:42 BST Hove1. Buzz Lightyear
True11 September 10:48 BST Oxfd1. Santoi Judy 6. Nikitas Tree1. Santoi Judy|M3.59@6.603.59
True11 September 10:57 BST Hove6. Fionas Choice 3. Flighty Blonde6. Fionas Choice|M3.36@7.003.36
True11 September 11:04 BST Oxfd4. Emly Final 3. Lanody Cooldeed4. Emly Final|M0.66@8.00|M2.14@8.202.80
True11 September 11:12 BST Hove4. Pretty Gina 2. Knockatoon Lady4. Pretty Gina|M1.60@6.40|M2.01@6.403.61
True11 September 11:18 BST Oxfd6. Driving Up Bill
True11 September 11:27 BST Hove6. Revengeful Demon 2. Broadacres Pride6. Revengeful Demon|M3.38@6.803.38
True11 September 11:32 BST Oxfd6. Herachio 5. Aranock Roy6. Herachio|M3.76@6.203.76
True11 September 11:42 BST Hove6. Comeonuspurs 3. Ellie Bay6. Comeonuspurs|M3.18@7.403.18
True11 September 11:47 BST Oxfd1. Swift Jasper 5. Gorbals Molly1. Swift Jasper|M3.63@6.603.63
True11 September 11:58 BST Hove4. Retro Spect
True11 September 12:04 BST Oxfd4. Swift Ramsay 4. Swift Ramsay4. Swift Ramsay|M3.09@7.60-20.39
True11 September 12:12 BST Hove3. Farmers Mate
True11 September 12:19 BST Oxfd4. Enchantedmorning 1. Bee Three Thirty4. Enchantedmorning|M4.04@6.004.04

Ill Get There 12th September 2009 07:22 AM

also horses with recovery

False11 September 12:35 BST DoncMisheer Misheer|M16.00@2.6816.00
False11 September 12:55 BST BangRockys Pride Rockys Pride|M16.00@1.8516.00
False11 September 13:05 BST Donc
False11 September 13:15 BST SandRacy Racy|M4.10@2.38|M11.90@2.3816.00
False11 September 13:30 BST BangOgee Ogee|M16.00@3.15-34.40
False11 September 13:40 BST DoncAskar Tau Askar Tau|M45.00@3.70-121.50
False11 September 13:50 BST Sand
False11 September 13:55 BST KilbPay The Ferryman Pay The Ferryman|M93.95@2.4093.95
False11 September 14:05 BST BangKells Castle Kells Castle|M16.00@3.1016.00
False11 September 14:15 BST DoncSeta Seta|M60.00@1.6360.00
False11 September 14:25 BST SandHot Prospect Hot Prospect|M6.00@1.60-3.60
False11 September 14:30 BST Kilb
False11 September 14:40 BST BangGrand Opera Grand Opera|M7.80@4.207.80
False11 September 14:50 BST DoncJimmy Styles Jimmy Styles|M6.00@3.706.00
False11 September 15:00 BST SandStoic Stoic|M6.00@3.00-12.00
False11 September 15:00 BST KilbDashing Ruby Dashing Ruby|M6.00@5.70-28.20
False11 September 15:15 BST BangAnother Trump Another Trump|M26.10@2.0626.10
False11 September 15:20 BST DownR
False11 September 15:25 BST Donc
False11 September 15:30 BST Kilb
False11 September 15:35 BST Sand
False11 September 15:45 BST Bang
False11 September 15:50 BST DownR


Midnight Mover Midnight Mover|M9.66@3.25|M15.45@3.30|M3.48@3.30|M7.51@3.30 36.09

AngryPixie 12th September 2009 10:14 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ill Get There
tried this last nite odds 6-8 any dogs uk and with out recovery got no where.
And what does this tell you?? ;)

On the flip side, we are living in exchange land. Nobody is forcing you to lay everything. There's always the 'B' word ;)

Ill Get There 12th September 2009 12:16 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by AngryPixie
And what does this tell you?? ;)

On the flip side, we are living in exchange land. Nobody is forcing you to lay everything. There's always the 'B' word ;)
im only a novice...it tells me the odds range is right!!...its only a test babe!!im digging isnt that how one finds thing..your not about to tell me your method..so ill find my comfort zone ..ta for the input tho..

Ill Get There 13th September 2009 06:30 AM

SUNDAY UK HORSES AGAIN
 
Recovery and stopping at a target again

many unsettled bes tho

False12 September 12:55 BST Donc
False12 September 13:05 BST FfosLMorgans Choice
False12 September 13:10 BST GoodSuruor Golden DesertSuruor|M6.00@5.206.00
False12 September 13:15 BST Curr
False12 September 13:15 BST ChestKumbeshwar
False12 September 13:25 BST Donc
False12 September 13:35 BST FfosLLean Machine Glen ShielLean Machine|M6.00@1.716.00
False12 September 13:40 BST GoodMac Love
False12 September 13:45 BST Curr
False12 September 13:45 BST ChestBab At The Bowster
False12 September 14:00 BST Donc
False12 September 14:05 BST FfosLJehu Dr MathiasJehu|M6.00@2.046.00
False12 September 14:10 BST GoodRockfella
False12 September 14:15 BST ChestSnoqualmie Girl
False12 September 14:20 BST CurrYeats Yeats|M3.07@7.40|M2.93@7.406.00
False12 September 14:35 BST DoncDuff
False12 September 14:40 BST FfosLMorocchius Ela Gorrie MouMorocchius|M6.00@4.906.00
False12 September 14:45 BST GoodMythical Blue Mythical BlueMythical Blue|M6.00@2.96-11.76
False12 September 14:50 BST Curr
False12 September 14:55 BST ChestDijeerr
False12 September 15:05 BST DoncManassas
False12 September 15:15 BST FfosLTimes Up Royal DiamondTimes Up|M11.88@5.4011.88
False12 September 15:20 BST Curr
False12 September 15:20 BST GoodTamagin
False12 September 15:30 BST ChestStolt
False12 September 15:40 BST DoncWhippers Love AziziWhippers Love|M11.88@5.5011.88
False12 September 15:50 BST FfosLHaajes
False12 September 15:50 BST Curr
False12 September 15:55 BST GoodManhattan Fox Manhattan FoxManhattan Fox|M6.00@2.28-7.68
False12 September 16:05 BST ChestDoubly Guest Mith HillDoubly Guest|M9.84@4.509.84
False12 September 16:15 BST DoncPrecision Break
False12 September 16:20 BST Curr
False12 September 16:25 BST FfosLScreaming Brave Chichen DaaweScreaming Brave|M0.06@4.60|M9.78@4.609.84

Ill Get There 15th September 2009 01:21 AM

UK HRSES MON NITE RANDOM ODDS STOPPING AT SET TARGET.

again unsettled bets were a pain .

False14 September 13:10 BST RedcSecret Queen Secret QueenSecret Queen|M22.00@2.68-36.96
False14 September 13:20 BST MussMs Sophie Eleanor Clumber PlaceMs Sophie Eleanor|M40.48@6.4040.48
False14 September 13:30 BST LeicFilwa Bathwick GoldFilwa|M39.00@3.40|M1.48@3.4040.48
False14 September 13:40 BST RedcOn The Piste
False14 September 13:45 BST List
False14 September 13:50 BST MussDurham Reflection
False14 September 14:00 BST LeicTruly Magic
False14 September 14:10 BST RedcNavy List Navy ListNavy List|M22.00@2.28-28.16
False14 September 14:15 BST List
False14 September 14:20 BST MussIfatfirst
False14 September 14:30 BST LeicBuddhist Monk Buddhist MonkBuddhist Monk|M36.08@2.60-57.73
False14 September 14:40 BST RedcTwist Again VeiledTwist Again|M8.12@4.60|M19.29@4.60|M18.66@4.60|M8.48@4.6 0|M10.40@4.6064.95
False14 September 14:45 BST List
False14 September 14:50 BST MussFremen King Of The MoorsFremen|M64.94@2.4064.94


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