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darkydog2002 30th August 2010 02:08 PM

Bryzz
 
I found that basing a set of your own thoughts around the UNITAB ratings is probably the best place to start.
I,d go for those ratings at 92 - 100.

Here,s a thought.

Look at those ratings Priced between $4 - $10.

I,ve found over the years that the last 4 races generally have the better priced winners

Cheers
Darky

bryz55 30th August 2010 09:54 PM

Cheers mate I'm under the impression whatever rating system you use it willaverage out as long as you always use the same?

After adding one more rule I have increased my win pot from 17% to 55% POT. However in saying this it's only early this also reduced my three week bets from 79 to 43.

It was interesting to find that the place return was decreased at this point so it has become two systems now the original for place only and the new rule makes it a special that is bet for a win...

I base my selections on tabform pre-post faves...

It is going to take a while to run sufficient testing time but it's looking ok


Winner winner chicken dinner!

bryz55 30th August 2010 10:40 PM

Hey darky just just wondering??? If my average price is 4.85 and I can back them as soon as I have scratchings (set and forget) where would be the best place to open an account?

I know there has been much discussion on this matter already but interested in your thoughts onthe matter?

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darkydog2002 31st August 2010 03:41 PM

Betfair Is your best bet.
I have 2 Accounts IAS and UNITAB.

I cant seem to get my head around Betfair myself.

Cheers
darky

bryz55 31st August 2010 07:05 PM

Yeah I been looking at the different options. Do you bet half in each account?

Betfair does look difficult to work out set and forget is the best way for me...anyone wanna shed some light?

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darkydog2002 31st August 2010 10:10 PM

I alternate between IAS and UNITAB for whose offering the best price.
Normally I bet FIXED Price .
I,ve found that over $11 TOTE price is usually better.But swings and roundabouts.
I,d say that the majority of my bets would be on UNITAB.
Basically I bet 3 - 4 horses a race.That way I reduce my number of outs and that suits me admirably.
Since I normally bet the last 4 races i,m stuck in front of the computer around 3 hours per day.

Cheers
darky

bryz55 31st August 2010 10:19 PM

That's interesting in my small trial I have found ias beat stab for the fav price. I did have one winner priced at $16 dollars which I found stab to beat the others by a dollar. So by my average winner usually being shorter I think best tote will be beneficial... Hopefully

On a completely different topic... I'm interested in some of your systems if your still willing to share them? I have a lot to learn...

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TheSchmile 1st September 2010 06:35 AM

Hi bryz55,

You can compare Betfair SP vs the Tote at:

Betfair racing zone

If you click on the calendar at the top left of the screen, you can go to any date to compare prices.

Make sure you times Betfair prices by .95 to factor in commission.

One thing to note, you can't always get set at Betfair SP depending on the meeting.

Best of your luck with your efforts, from the way you have refined your selections and increased POT, it appears you may be onto something.


The Schmile

bryz55 1st September 2010 09:29 AM

Hi theschmile,

Let's hope I'm onto something... You say can't always get set? Ideally to get the best price with betfair I would need to be watching each race? This doesn't suit me cause I will have trouble sticking to the plan it's much easier for me to put the bets on early and carry on with my day...

Wat is top fluc ? SP ?

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bryz55 1st September 2010 11:12 AM

I know wat SP and top fluc are but do they display the price and is it fixed?

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darkydog2002 1st September 2010 03:30 PM

Bryzz,
Just drop me a line at my "non de plume" at hotmail and I,ll send you a couple of the better ones.
Cheers.
darky

bryz55 1st September 2010 06:18 PM

Yeah my email is k-davids at live dot com

Cheers

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darkydog2002 1st September 2010 07:38 PM

Let me know if you got them.Those 3 arent bad and should give you some ideas.
Cheers
darky

bryz55 1st September 2010 07:58 PM

Thanks again darky I got them.

Just out of interest what is the highest pot u have achieved on long term? And how many bets per month? Just to give me some idea what is possible and what to aim for...

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Bhagwan 2nd September 2010 06:27 AM

If you want best of 3 Totes (where available) & the ability to make bets as low as .10c then I have found Betezy to be very good.

They also own Dialabet ,which has the same features & site layout.

This could be good for those who like to bet & forget.

Some of the Tote price difference can be amazing , especially the double digit winners.

bryz55 2nd September 2010 09:13 AM

More food for thought... Thanks bhagwan.

Everyone feel free to comment on the long term best POT/SR/monthly bets???

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darkydog2002 2nd September 2010 01:38 PM

Long Term 15 - 26.9%

Between 12 and 16 bets per day 7 days a week.

Average number of bets per race 3.

Cheers.


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