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axledog 25th February 2011 11:00 PM

Q + F System
 
Looking at class, track and distance and freshness , why not throw a rating in as well, seems commonplace. Very quick and untrialled. So , lets trial it!

Rules are -
1) Buy Sportsman
2) Cancell any race with a first starter
3) Select top two average prizemoney earners (therefore only two qualfiers per race)
4) Last start 21 days or less
5) Must have a place % of 50+ at current days course
6) Must have a place % of 50+ at current days distance
7) Must be within 2 or less points of zipform toprater
8) If both selections qualify then cancell race
Takes about 30 seconds per race when youve done it a couple of times.
But is quick and friendly profitable ? Lets find out!

axledog 25th February 2011 11:15 PM

Q + F System Selections 26-02-11
 
Caulfield
rc 1 # 3
rc 3 # 1
rc 4 # 1
rc 5 # 8
rc 6 # 6
rc 7 # 1

Rosehill
rc 3 # 1

Eagle Farm
rc 5 # 1
rc 6 # 2

Morphetville Park
rc 4 # 7
rc 5 # 4

darkydog2002 26th February 2011 01:51 PM

Good luck axledog.Looks promising.

Can I add a suggestion from Malcolms research .
Rather than the top 2 Av Prizemoney you might like to test against the top 2 PLACE % horses.
I,d keep records for both and compare after a 100 bet sequence.


Cheers
darky

Dale 26th February 2011 02:00 PM

Or for something a bit out of the box why not the two highest prizemoney raced for horses from all horses last 3 or 4 starts.

Id try that and drop the zipform requirement all together.

Just a thought.

darkydog2002 26th February 2011 02:27 PM

Axledog.
On your Sportsman chart how many of these were (L) leaders or (H ) Race handy - on pace.

Cheers
darky

axledog 28th February 2011 04:25 PM

thanks guys,
Dale , understand exactly about prizemoney stat , is there anywhere i could obtain this easily ?
DD , mate been working hard , but kept sportsman and will work out and keep records for both , might keep some study in this because i know you like place betting and using just NSWtab prices the system hit 7/10 (1 scr) and achieved 12.1 units (+2.1). Maybe just hit and miss but worthwhile tinkering. (win was only 3/10 and 5.1 units (-4.9)

darkydog2002 1st March 2011 01:47 PM

Axledog,
Much prefer the win bet myself but if there,s a profitable place bet I,m happy there too.
If it was my method I,d much prefer leaders and on pace runners than Backmarkers

Its great fun developing a winning system isn,t it?

Cheers
darky

Dale 1st March 2011 03:49 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by axledog
Dale , understand exactly about prizemoney stat , is there anywhere i could obtain this easily ?




Axledog try this one

http://formguide.cyberhorse.com.au/.../view-form.html

You have to sort through the field yourself of course but its easy to read and you can work out a race very quickly,it lists the last 10 runs which is handy.


Good luck

axledog 1st March 2011 09:46 PM

Thanks Dale , will trial that this weekend.
DD , ran your trial of top place% and results were still positive
for the place but a loss on the win.
win=3/9 loss 2.6
place 6/9 plus 1.3
Like you said , ill run for 100 or so selections and see if a result
can be found with either win or place, using both methods.
Havent used your (L) or (h) variable yet , just want to know what
happens with what i already have.
Just seen Garys post (percentages) and might apply more rules after
this series of 100 selections has ended.

axledog 4th March 2011 10:26 PM

Q+F 05/03/11
 
Selections for Top Prizemoney

SR 5-1
BR 6-1
AR 1-1
AR 2-1
AR 5-1
AR 6-1
AR 8-4
WR 2-1 (ASCOT)
WR 5-1
WR 7-14

hmmm.... is that a pattern i see? Maybe using this variable will always throw up toppies , will be interested to see what happens here!

axledog 4th March 2011 10:34 PM

Q+F 05/03/11
 
Selections for Top Place%

MR 2-6
MR 8-7
BR 3-4
BR 5-8
BR 7-5
AR 1-1
AR 6-6
WR 5-1 (ASCOT)

DD , A couple of races have minimal runners to require a third
place divvie. Do i still count these in my selections for place
stats or not record the race at all for place but win only?

darkydog2002 5th March 2011 02:51 PM

Hi Axledog,
Win only.
Cheers
darky

darkydog2002 12th March 2011 06:03 PM

Axledog,
The refinements I came up with gave me
Flemington
Race 4 H 5 2nd @5.75/1
W.Farm
Race 1 H 3 2nd@1.1/1
Doomben
Race 3 H 11 2nd@1.2/1
Morphetville
Race 7 H 2 +3 Won $4.80/2nd@ 4.25/1

Cheers
darky

axledog 1st April 2011 09:52 PM

After 1 months betting , using LIVE bets , i have recorded 6 outcomes. Using the original system for win and place , using DD top place % as an alternate rule to p/m and a system using both rules combined. Results follow -

Prizemoney Rule -
Win - 12/48 (25%) Loss 12.2 units
Plac - 38/48 (79%) Profit 2.4 units

Place % Rule -
Win - 17/56 (30%) Loss 4.2 units
Plac - 38/56 (67%) Profit 3.8 Units

Both rules combined -
Win - 7/20 (35%) Profit 0.5 units
Plac - 15/20 (75%) Profit 3.8 units

Unflattering i know , but not a bad base set of rules to begin a system. think of the combo, backing place only and you end up with 19% in front. DD , combine with your filters (how are these going by the way?) and we might
improve somewhat. Will take it to 100 selections as advised and put up new results.

axledog 1st April 2011 10:01 PM

Tomorrows selections -

WA 4-3 p/m
WA 6-11 com
WA 7-13 p/m
SR 2-1 com
SR 4-1 com
SR 5-8 place
SR 6-2 p/m
SR 7-1 p/m
SR 9-1 p/m
MR 3-2 com
MR 7-9 p/m
BR 2-9 place
BR 5-5 place
BR 7-7 place
BR 8-2 p/m
BR 8-5 place
AR 3-1 com


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