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Stix 20th October 2011 11:13 PM

Free Form ratings & Questions
 
I've a neural based system/s and looking at using ratings to help with selections...so have a couple quick questions on ratings.

Unitab ratings - What are they based on? I think I remember wesmip mentioned unitab rating are based on speed. Is this correct?

Who provides the form rating for tabracing.com.au/ I know it says Sky form, is this the same as Techform?

Are techform ratings available free and has anyone have any comments regarding them i.e. long term S/R, find them accurate? etc

...or any other free ratings, who would you recommend.

Thanks in advance!

UselessBettor 21st October 2011 05:47 AM

sorry can't help you Stix.

moeee 21st October 2011 07:56 AM

I'm also sorry that I can't help you Stix.

TheSchmile 21st October 2011 08:36 AM

Hi Stix,

Regarding Techform, I found this on the RISA website. I think they're $5.50 per meeting.

RISA Techform

I found this info on the racing Vic website:
The Australian Horse Rating system was devised by Perth-based National Ratings Pty Ltd in conjunction with the Racing Services Bureau (now part of RISA) in 1985. Its Techform Ratings are a computer-generated numerical form guide that is calculated by the rating of past performances combined with a detailed analysis at acceptance time.

Techform Ratings are an exclusive feature of racebooks throughout Australia and are available for subscribers through RISA/RSB. They are also available on the internet on selected TAB sites.


- Unitab ratings as far as I can gather are sourced from AAP.

Hope this helps a little.

Cheers,

The Schmile

garyf 21st October 2011 09:42 AM

Free Form ratings & Questions
 
Hi Stix.

The skyform ratings you enquired about are the old wizard ratings.

They are run by Warren Block from a company called successability.

The in wet ratings on the tab website are not from this company.

They are from sky channel itself.

Cheers.
Garyf

Chrome Prince 21st October 2011 02:20 PM

Stix,

The Techform ratings are far superior to Unitab ratings.
When both were free I gathered the data for a few years to compare them.
Techform stood head and shoulders above Unitab.

Techform used to be free on Supertab (vic) but they since dropped them and you have to pay $5.50 per meeting now.

They are good, but I don't believe I'd pay anything like $5.50 a meeting.

Stix 22nd October 2011 08:01 AM

Thanks guys, much appreciated.

Yep, I'm not going to pay $5.50 either Chrome, i was hoping they might be still available for free somewhere....

What would people say are the "best" free ratings?

UselessBettor 22nd October 2011 09:36 AM

My research suggests the Don scott ratings at Racingandsports.
Its definitely not the unitab ratings.
Its definitely not the default neural ratings.

I have not researched any other ratings.

AngryPixie 22nd October 2011 10:26 AM

I'm still getting Dave's Winner In Six ratings.

WinnerinsixRatings at bigpond dot com

garyf 22nd October 2011 02:07 PM

The best free ratings that work for me in combination,
With the neurals(NOT DEFAULT) are the premium ratings.

Unfortunately i have only recorded certain races that meet my criteria.

They only became available early july from memory

I have only been recording since the start of august.
They far outweigh my current ratings and anything else,
That i have tried.

Cheers.
Gary.

Stix 22nd October 2011 02:19 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by garyf
The best free ratings that work for me in combination,
With the neurals(NOT DEFAULT) are the premium ratings.

Unfortunately i have only recorded certain races that meet my criteria.

They only became available early july from memory

I have only been recording since the start of august.
They far outweigh my current ratings and anything else,
That i have tried.

Cheers.
Gary.
Wher do you find these please garyf?

garyf 22nd October 2011 02:30 PM

Sorry stix.


Spelt it wrong.

Google up Premierratings dot com.

You will have to register.

As i already have an account i am unsure if you,
Have to deposit funds to get them.

Well worth it if you can throw something small in to get started.

Stix 22nd October 2011 04:13 PM

Don Scott Ratings
 
Full of stoopid questions lately :rolleyes: ......

I've used neural extensively for the past few years, now looking back on spme older posts and UselessB's database website...

So here goes; Are Don Scott's ratings on the worksheet function on R&S (http://www.racingandsports.com.au/form-guide/) and given as either FR or EM value?

Where can i find an explaination of the different columns...

I feel pretty sheepish about posting this, but never know if you never ask..

thanks

UselessBettor 22nd October 2011 04:14 PM

Yes FR is the Final Rating for the don scott calc.

aussielongboat 24th October 2011 09:01 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Stix
Full of stoopid questions lately :rolleyes: ......

I've used neural extensively for the past few years, now looking back on spme older posts and UselessB's database website...

So here goes; Are Don Scott's ratings on the worksheet function on R&S (http://www.racingandsports.com.au/form-guide/) and given as either FR or EM value?

Where can i find an explaination of the different columns...

I feel pretty sheepish about posting this, but never know if you never ask..

thanks

EM is the margin from the highest rated.
thus for the highest rated it = 0.
Re EM:
ExMarg: Theoretical Beaten margin in kgs based on FR calculation


re explanation - for full display - hit " explanation" under the displayed table. that provides a definition for most of them - but keep reading down it is bit easy to miss it all.


cheers
aussie

Stix 24th October 2011 01:02 PM

Thanks lads.


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