One For The Data Base Folk.
 

This one ONLY promised a $162,000 Profit.(Not up to Their usual standard at all)

Sat Metrop Races Syd /Melb /Bris

TC = Good - Dead

Distance = 1000 - 1400

Field Size 7 - 18

Age Of Horse 2 - 12 ??? (I kid you not)

Career Starts 3 - 100

Barrier 1 - 18

TAB No 1 - 3

Weight Today = 52 - 57

Days To LS 1 - 28

Days to 2nd LS 0 - 999

Days tp 3rd LS 0 - 999

Runs this Preapation 0 - 10

LS FIN Posn 1 - 6

2nd LS Fin Posn 1 - 6

3rd LS fin Posn 1 - 10

4th LS fin posn 1 - 15

LS SP 0- $6

Weight Change Min/ Max - 0.5 - +3

LS beaten margin MAX 4 L

Av Prize Money Rank 1 - 2

Win % Rank 1 - 6

Place % Rank 1 - 6

1st - 3rd fav

"let me at em"

Who posted this system originally? PPM?

No.The other mob.

PPM wouldnt be that cheeky.

Are you sure you can't include just a few more filters? I don't think there are enough there.

I am currently running a test on something else but when its finished I will run it and see what we get.

From 1/1/2008 - 30/4/2012

54 selections
16 winners
29.6% S/R
-4.4% LOT at NSW TAB prices

Way too many filters and too few selections to be even considered a potential system.

mattio, I disagree with your assertion that it has too few selections.

I do agree with the way too many rules, and a lot of the rules are mirror copies of other filters. It's just plain dumb.

You can remove 8 of these filters and get a _3% profit.

Ho Ho Vortech.

Thanks Mattio.

54 Selections in 4 years.
No more form of punting torture could have been invented.

Not sure where this one came from.

Metrop wed /Sat

Must be Top Weight

No Horses having 1st or 2nd Run from a spell

Eliminate any horse that has had 2 runs from a spellthat didnt have form 11,12or 21

If starts since a spell 3 or more the 2 runs preceding its most recent run must be 11 ,12 or 21

A bit simpler than the other one.
Hmm.

You have been TOUd for flaming in this thread. Moderator.

Off topic. Moderator.

Why bother reading posts if you find them pointless.

i have found in my travels , that even pointless posts are conducive to other members posting useful information.

No posts at all are conducive to forums becoming completely barren.

Sorry Barny but we will have to agree to disagree on this subject.

Before you start on others about clogging up the airwaves with attention seeking posts you should remember that you have posted 2 separate threads about your theory on sample size......it could be assumed that you didn't get enough response from your first post that you started another one?

Hi Mattio,
All these pests are on my ignore list.
I might take them off when they post something (anything ) positive about anyone.
But I cant see that happening anytime soon.

They cant seem to realise that others might get a bit of pleasure out of the systems.

Quite selfish really.

Cheers
darky

You have been TOUd for flaming in this thread. Moderator.

A Points method Published years ago.
 

From a popular Magazine.

No Meetings where the Rail is out more than 7 Metres.

Won or within 2 L of Winner and not resuming 16 Points

Win % 25 %+ 12 Points

Top 5 Av Prizemoney 17 Points

Carrying no more than 2.5 Kg Extra from LS 7 points

Previously Placed over todays Distance 12 Points

Placed at Todays Track 9 points

Placed on Todays TC 13 Points

Barrier 12 or less 8 points

If a Horse has been Ridden by todays Jockey at least once in its last 3 starts 6 points

Max 100 Points

Have fun.
Cheers

Barny half the stuff you post is dribble yet I still read it because I am fairly new to this game and I know that I will never stop learning from people. If I don't like or agree with what someone is posting I usually just move to the next post, I don't say something smart and blow them off.....that would just be plain arrogance.

Barny.
On one side of the fence is a person who is sharing his stable of systems with rules to the systems. Most of them did not make the grade and most likely never will. However he only has to post something that somebody can take away and use. That can either be a idea to extend from or something to run from. On the other side of the fence we have somebody that openly declares that he has found El Dorado, the Holy Grail of punting, and won't share. If fact sits and tuants that all the other users are looking in the wrong direction. Who is right? Who is wrong? It does not matter because we, all the users of this forum. are big boys and girls now and we can make up our own minds as to what is dribble and what is not. If you don't like what is posted then ignore it. If you want to contribute then contribute in a positive manner without slagging other users. What you are doing amounts to bullying and I am not going to sit here and watch it continue. Beton

I second that Beton.

Bullying should be treated with extreme prejudice when ever is ugly head pops up.

One should have a look at some of those other sites out there where the posts are not moderated, where the bullies rule.
There have not been any new posts on some of those sites for weeks at a time.

So knock that bullying crap off before this site ends up the same way.

There is no point giving any more chances , they must suffer from 4 by 2 syndrome, that is , the only thing those fools understand is a lump of 4x2 across the side of the head.

No more second chances.

Please don't refer to posts made a member in a different message board in order to argue against them here. Argue with them about it there. Thank you. Moderator.

Off topic. Moderator.

got a database beton ?? ..... easy to find systems showing POT of 60%+ ..... check with anyone who has a database as you won't take it from me. bhagwan posted 50+ systems showing a POT in that vicinity. As I said, finding a system with a decent POT is the easy part ........

Off topic. Please discuss betting systems. Moderator.

Barny you have been TOUd for flaming.

If you do not want to read a particular member's posts then please place that member on ignore. It's very simple to do.

Just click User CP at the top left and then click Buddy/Ignore Lists.

Baiting and flaming a member is not acceptable.

Please take very careful note of this.

You have been suspended for 7 days.

Barny. I do have a database. I am content with what I do. I choose not to test any of these systems posted. I, however do get something from them. I am sure that others do as well. That is not the issue here. The issue is that your relentless bagging is bullying and that is not to be tolerated by anybody. Beton

At least we don't have to put up with him for another 7 days and can get back to actual adult discussion about systems again.

You have been TOUd. Please don't make personal comments about members. This is a betting systems forum. Thank you. Moderator.

Some suggestion earlier that people dont use this forum because of so called bullies.

Im the opposite and im sure there are many many more like me, im sick of basic spot play systems.

We all know they are not profitable yet there are those on here who offer them up day after day year after year.

Only really interested in reading posts from people who offer up an idea then back that up with research and possibly selections.

Its the lack of understanding for system development holding the forum back, not the so called bullies.

Most of these so called bullies are intelligent posters who are trying to point out the bleeding obvious to people who just dont get.

Excellent post Dale.

Cheers

I am sure that most systems posted here are not worth a pinch of salt but there is no need to carry on about it, just don't read the post its that simple. The problem is that there are certain people on here that are hypocrites that carry on with their own crap and then have the nerve to criticise others when they don't like or agree with what is posted.

Sorry but this is a public forum for people to share ideas no matter how good or bad they may be and its quite easy to simply move to the next post if you don't like what it says.

If a System doesn't float your boat - ignore it.
Its not all about YOU!

I have a couple of questions for the so called experts (aka bullies)

1. Is there more probability that a profitable system can be developed by watching race by race and betting as close to jump or can the average joe make the some money by a system after scratchings

2. If Q1 is yes, a good system must be developed around a couple of factors
- price and speed analysis or track bias.

3. In order to incorporate a good system ratings must be used.

4. If yes to Q3, are you betting to overlay.

5. To the punters that bet to overlay. I still don't understand the logic behind someone using ratings and betting over the price. Basically if you have a system that uses ratings and generates a $3.00 chance. If you can find a $4.00 price you would back it. If $2.50 leave alone.

Example: A system based around ratings has a Strike Rate of say 30% on the top rater. If you are betting to price, how often do you find a strike rate lower than the average for overs and a higher strike rate for unders.

Punters thoughts?

I think that all positions have been aired sufficiently. Criticism is one thing. Everybody has a right to express their view. Attacking the person continuously and riddiculing them becomes bullying. Attacking the person with support of others intensifies the bullying. This was the case. It was needless and pointless. I am happy to have any constructive input from Barny. His postings may prove beneficial. I hope that when he returns puts a constructive argument to posts that gets his goat, or just ignores the post. In the meantime lets get back to the forum because anymore comment starts us on a road to nowhere. Beton

Folks are free to disagree.

However the Forum Rules and Terms of Use makes clear that the following is not acceptable:

"Personal abuse or unpleasantness. A member who persistently alienates other members of the Forum may be restricted or banned."

At http://www.ozmium.com.au/terms.html

Thanks.

Moderator.