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Barny 4th September 2012 04:13 PM

LSW 7 Days
 
Bwahahahaha

Try

TAB 1 to 5
Last 5 runs 2 to 24
Runs since spell > 4
METRO
Last run exactly 7 days ago

Apologies to those who naively think form matters

You could even go to Last 5 runs 3 to 24 ..... Bwahahahahaha

Barny 4th September 2012 04:48 PM

Runs since spell >1, >2, >3

Everything I've posted here shows a Profit. Bwahahahahahahahaha

darkydog2002 4th September 2012 05:59 PM

Ah.Your always good for a giggle Barny..

How about this one.
TAB 6
Won LS by 6 L
Barrier 6
Exactly $6 prepost
LS Exactly 6 days ago

LOL

Barny 4th September 2012 06:06 PM

darkydog2002, I know you don't have a database but what I posted shows a profit ..... absolutely guaranteed. Why absolutely guaranteed ? Coz my database is accurate !

Let's see if someone with a database will confirm this.

the reason i posted this simple system is to once again put paid to those who look for "traditional form", they may get a half decent SR but they wont get a POT ..... Bwahahahahahahahahahaha

darkydog2002 4th September 2012 06:08 PM

Hi Barny,
Can you run my system through your data base.?
Like to compare it against your results.
Thanks.
Cheers

Barny 4th September 2012 06:21 PM

No

darkydog2002 4th September 2012 06:26 PM

Anyone?

I,m trying to think "outside the Square"

moeee 4th September 2012 06:51 PM

Usual standard of quality posts continue after my months holiday.
Well done guys.
Keep up the good work.

Barny 4th September 2012 06:55 PM

Post deleted. Please do not refer to any member as a "idiot" on this Forum. Thank you. Moderator.

darkydog2002 4th September 2012 07:54 PM

We do our best eh Barn.?

Vortech 4th September 2012 07:57 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Barny
Bwahahahaha

Try

TAB 1 to 5
Last 5 runs 2 to 24
Runs since spell > 4
METRO
Last run exactly 7 days ago

Apologies to those who naively think form matters

You could even go to Last 5 runs 3 to 24 ..... Bwahahahahaha
Venue: SMBAW

TAB Number: 1 - 5
Days to LastStart: 7 - 7
Runs thisPreparation: 1 - 3
Last Start FinishPos: 2 - 24
2nd Last StartFin Pos: 2 - 24
3rd Last StartFin Pos: 2 - 24
4th Last StartFin Pos: 2 - 24

Jan08 to Dec11
827 Bets
93 Winners
847.50 Return

Rules might be slightly different

Vortech 4th September 2012 08:12 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by darkydog2002
Ah.Your always good for a giggle Barny..

How about this one.
TAB 6
Won LS by 6 L
Barrier 6
Exactly $6 prepost
LS Exactly 6 days ago

LOL

I ran for 2 years with no bets. Gave up

Barny 4th September 2012 09:22 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Vortech
Venue: SMBAW

TAB Number: 1 - 5
Days to LastStart: 7 - 7
Runs thisPreparation: 1 - 3
Last Start FinishPos: 2 - 24
2nd Last StartFin Pos: 2 - 24
3rd Last StartFin Pos: 2 - 24
4th Last StartFin Pos: 2 - 24

Jan08 to Dec11
827 Bets
93 Winners
847.50 Return

Rules might be slightly different

Oh yee of little faith darkydog2002, I told you it was a winner, albeit a small POT. Thanks vortech.

A little tweak here and there, maybe concentrate on No. 1 eh ?!

The easy thing is to find systems that show a POT.

Barny 4th September 2012 09:23 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Barny
Post deleted. Please do not refer to any member as a "idiot" on this Forum. Thank you. Moderator.

I apologise to moee, sorry mod ..........

moeee 5th September 2012 09:11 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Barny
I apologise to moee, sorry mod ..........

accepted.
Fortunately I managed to resist the temptation to respond earlier.

darkydog2002 5th September 2012 11:36 AM

Vortech,
No bets eh.
A winner already.
Thanks
darky

Barny 5th September 2012 03:17 PM

Any resemblence between Macca's new Lamb burger and 'food' is purely coincidental.

darkydog2002 5th September 2012 04:28 PM

Hey Barn ,
We should team up.
With my brains and your computer we could develop something along the lines of the "World Famous"
i.e Sandown '
R 6 H 12 - 6 - 5 - 9 Min $5

moeee 5th September 2012 05:31 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Barny
Any resemblence between Macca's new Lamb burger and 'food' is purely coincidental.

How is this related to the thread title?
How is it of any significance to anything on this Forum?

ianian 5th September 2012 05:33 PM

SYSTEM
 
MUST HAVE WON OVER COURSE

MUST BE BEATEN FAV LAST START

SAT METRO B,M,S ONLY

$8 OR LESS

THIS IS SUPPOSED TO HAVE WORKED FOR 5 YEARS FOR THE WIN

HAVE ONLY FOLLOWED FOR THE LAST FEW MONTHS

PLACE SEEMS REALLY GOOD BUT STILL IN FRONT FOR THE WIN AS WELL

WONDER IF SOMEONE CAN RUN FOR A TEST FOR ME

WIN AND PLACE ONLY ABOUT 2 BETS A WEEK ALL WEATHER

BEATEN FAV STRIKE RATE IS ABOUT 17% AT ALL ODDS, THIS IS ALL I KNOW

Barny 5th September 2012 08:05 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by moeee
How is this related to the thread title?
How is it of any significance to anything on this Forum?

Given that I'm the leading poster on this forum and attract a huge following, my well being is of paramount importance to the general excellence of the of the threads here ..... moeee. The Lamb burger tipped me into the realms of mediocrity, a place reserved for ..... well ..... you know who !? It's not where I belong moeee ?!

darkydog2002 5th September 2012 08:31 PM

Well said Barn and with my constant advertising of you as the very best the sky really is the limit for you isn,t it.
Is that you moving into the UK horse racing industry?
Cheers
darky

mattio 5th September 2012 08:36 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by ianian
MUST HAVE WON OVER COURSE

MUST BE BEATEN FAV LAST START

SAT METRO B,M,S ONLY

$8 OR LESS

THIS IS SUPPOSED TO HAVE WORKED FOR 5 YEARS FOR THE WIN

HAVE ONLY FOLLOWED FOR THE LAST FEW MONTHS

PLACE SEEMS REALLY GOOD BUT STILL IN FRONT FOR THE WIN AS WELL

WONDER IF SOMEONE CAN RUN FOR A TEST FOR ME

WIN AND PLACE ONLY ABOUT 2 BETS A WEEK ALL WEATHER

BEATEN FAV STRIKE RATE IS ABOUT 17% AT ALL ODDS, THIS IS ALL I KNOW
I ran a test back to 2008 and found an 11% LOT on over 900 win selections and a 4% LOT for the place. I'll see if I can find any filters make it profitable.

Mat.

ianian 5th September 2012 08:50 PM

THANKS
 
THANKS MATTIO THE ONY OTHER THING WAS T/D DID NOT SEEM TO WORK ONLY COURSE.THE ONLY OTHER THINGS I CAN THINK OF IS WEIGHT DROP OF NO MORE THAN -.5KG TO HELP CLASS THEM OR MUST BE GOING UP IN DISTANCE BY 100m OR MORE -I THINK PLACE STRIKE RATE OF 60% OR MORE AS THE PLACE IS CLOSE AND I LIKE THAT.BUT DUE TO SO FEW BETS I DONT KNOW.

ianian 5th September 2012 08:58 PM

MORE
 
THE OTHER THING WAS THE PERSON WHO PAST IT ON WAS BETTING USING- BOB- MAY BE THIS MAKES A DIFFRENCE -BEST OF THE BEST- TF AND THREE TOTES.

mattio 5th September 2012 09:49 PM

Sydney and Melbourne are duds mate, Bris shows a profit and I am now testing Adelaide and Perth.

gunny72 5th September 2012 09:56 PM

Include a rule that no more than 5 runs from a spell.

mattio 6th September 2012 10:37 AM

Hi ianian,

With a few changes to venue and some race and horse filters I have come up with the following:

Selections - 297
Winners - 98
Return - 399
S/R - 33%
POT - 34%

Longest run of outs in the test period (1/1/2008-31/8/2012) was 9 and the system shows a 7% POT on place bets as I think its a big positive if a system shows a place profit. There won't be a lot of action but to me it looks like a system that could be worth forward testing.

Would you like me to email you the full rules or are you happy for me to post them here?

Cheers,

Mat.

ianian 6th September 2012 01:24 PM

Happy
 
Happy for you to post them here as i have got a lot from the people who have posted here.

mattio 6th September 2012 02:41 PM

Ok mate, here is the system rules for you:

Saturday Metro Bris, Adel, Perth
Beaten Favourite Last Start
Won At the Course
Price $2-$8 - no odds on
Metro Run Last Start
Tab Number 1-8
Race Distance - 1600+
Exclude All Races With First Up Horses (obviously there are no bets on first up horses)
Exclude All Fillies/Mares/Fillies & Mares Races

These filters are pretty straight forward and should allow for repeatable results but it would be a good idea to test for a while, good luck with it.

Cheers,

Mat.

Barny 6th September 2012 02:45 PM

IMHO this cannot work long term as it's backfitted within an inch of it's life conveniently leaving out Melb and Syd.

mattio 6th September 2012 02:57 PM

Then its a good thing I don't much consider your opinions. There are minimal horse filters and minimal race filters so saying its "backfitted to an inch of its life" just shows that you have no idea.

Barny 6th September 2012 03:02 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by mattio
Then its a good thing I don't much consider your opinions. There are minimal horse filters and minimal race filters so saying its "backfitted to an inch of its life" just shows that you have no idea.
To selectively leave out the two biggest venues in the land is backfitted in anyone's language mattio. It confirms the filters are not worth the paper they're printed on. But good luck with it mattio, at least you're consistent.

mattio 6th September 2012 03:05 PM

Really Barny, you want to go hacking on me about my systems? Considering you have some "secret" filters that give 90% POT but only 1-2 selections per month.....you don't think that is backfitted?

If I am so consitent why don't you show me some other systems I have posted that are doomed to fail?

I am going to refrain from what I really think as I don't wish to have a holiday but all I can say is that I still believe you have no idea and I'm pretty sure I am not alone.

ianian 6th September 2012 03:07 PM

Did this for real- maybe not smart
 
Thanks for that but I have another system which worked well for me for the last few years but stopped a few months ago to move onto other things the rules were.

Must open under $3 this could be subbed for under $3 prepost for test.

Must have won last start

Must have T/D or C

This gave about 2 to 3 bet a week

The only reason I think it made money was top flc or bob so it was more the better price than good selection as they should be over bet – I have always found there was more money in the short horses than the longer prices-out of interest once when doing over’s going to the track-all the money I made all up 6% on turnover a bit up and down- this is also the best I have achieved on anything long term( even though this obvious system did return better than that- but and a big but if they canceled my account and I had to go to the track with out the online advantage not worth the risk I hope it turns out otherwise) but if I deleted all horses rated 3/1 and over this improved t/o greatly. This profit also came down to the difference between starting price and the price I got so not worth the risk long term for me.

At least people will see the results of something I tried in the real world.

I am thankful for all the help on the other system and its amazing people I have never met are so helpful not really my experience in the real world.

Barny 6th September 2012 03:13 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by mattio
Really Barny, you want to go hacking on me about my systems? Considering you have some "secret" filters that give 90% POT but only 1-2 selections per month.....you don't think that is backfitted?

If I am so consitent why don't you show me some other systems I have posted that are doomed to fail?

I am going to refrain from what I really think as I don't wish to have a holiday but all I can say is that I still believe you have no idea and I'm pretty sure I am not alone.


Surely you are educated enough to express your thoughts without using profanity or getting too personal which may lead to a suspension. I eagerly await your critique.

ianian 6th September 2012 03:16 PM

Extra
 
This system again was B/S/M/A METRO SAT ONLY to rely on the better class horses.

moeee 6th September 2012 03:17 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by mattio
hacking on me.

LOLL!! mattio
Lol about Barny opinions and Lol about hacking , which you may have found from the Young Guns Movie the other night.

Please do not allow another member to bait you mattio and you fall victim to the enforced holiday.
It happened to me and it didn't seem fair nor right.

mattio 6th September 2012 03:19 PM

Why bother, you will still think my systems are rediculously backfitted and yours aren't and I will still think you have no idea, nothing will get resolved so let's leave it at that.

mattio 6th September 2012 03:21 PM

Good advice moeee, I don't suffer fools lightly which is why I often get a little too defensive.

Geez, I haven't seen Young Guns for years....... :)


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