Spltting rules anyone?
 

Does anyone have any thoughts on this subject, I have a plan that constantly throws 2 runners in a race, the race types can be any, I end up with about 25% winners, but backing em all, end up just short of even. I've had several attempts to try and split the selections so there is always only 1 bet per race, I've tried splitting based on price, position in the pre-post market, rating, Draw, Last start.
So far haven't managed to change that small loss into a profit,

any ideas?

TAB No.
Jockey / Trainer
Age - 4/5 = Y/N


???

LG

PS working on 'refining' PPM if you are interested e.g. not so many bets!

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Back the one which will provide the most value

Without knowing how your filtering already makes it a little difficult but obviously you don't want to give away the rules. To decide between the two selections maybe use a filter thats not readily available or considered by the public. i.e. don't use a filter thats on all TAB screens around the country that everyone takes into considering (placed last start, top barrier etc etc).

Maybe go with the horse that improved the most from Turn to finish last start (i.e. was 8th at turn and finished 3rd) or possible look at the sex of the horses and see if a particular sex has won more for your system? Maybe only back those that have an apprentice on, or haven't had a change of jockey?

I'm just throwing random ideas here but look outside the square a bit and you might find that it tips you from that break even position to a profitable position.

PS Widest barrier

LG

go for the longer price

or dutch them win a set amount regardless which wins

Ev, no rules as such I end up with 2 horses derived from other peoples selections. The apprentice approach is interesting.

LG. tried widest barrier,..... same LOT Haven't tried TAB no. I can see how that might have a bearing in handicaps but there's a lot of maiden races as well?

Gunny. Longest price = lesser S/R , greater Ave SP but..... same LOT

Stugs. Dutching lesser runs of outs but....... same LOT

Stugs: re value, yes working on this at the mo, thinking of using the PPP (as a rating) and only back when say +20% is available, no data yet though.

LG. Yes PPM could definitely be worked on, my ee male is lumbasakabayo att hott male dott comm

Do you use Betfair PP?

If so then you could choose to only back when odds there provided a premium over the tote or bookie you currently use.

Without interfering with the selection method i would do this.

Put both selections through this criteria..

1)State.
2) Country-metro-provincial track.

EG.

B/DGO= V/P VICT PROV.
PT/MACQ= S/C SYDNEY COUNTRY.
E/FARM = QM QUEENSLAN METRO.
GAWLER =A/P ADELAIDE PROVINCIAL.

If you are talking about the P.P.M. method,
That gets long priced winners forget the above.

There is no way i'm giving advice on how to keep a $101.00
Winner and delete a stack of losers to keep it.



Cheers.
Garyf.

Have you tried putting the selns into a s/sheet with all the above criteria and then using an excel pivot to tell you how each criterion has gone?

Garyf, No nothing to do with my PPM bit of fun method,...... there was nothing obvious as regards to State, Metro, etc. but it could be worth a closer look.

Speedy Ben,, my computer skills are very lacking and to give you an idea I'm still using WORKS spreadsheets and Data Bases cos I know how to use them.

I'm not familiar with this Pivot thing, the way I've tested each criteria was applying the filters to my data base.

I've just found roundabouts and swings every time, i.e. if I apply PPP of less than $2.51, S/R instantly improves (of course) followed by a corresponding lesser final divi.