wasn't me
 

Sat Metro meeting at Rosehill.

R8-4 WOODBINE.

FLUCTS 9-11-10

Have a look at the VIC-TOTE win dividend.

Please explain.???

? not sure what you seeing.

Keep looking, you'll see it.

Give you a hint, RE-Read the part,
That starts (Have A Look).

Cheers.

Unitab Win $10.80 Place $3.30

Vic Tab Win $3.00 Place $4.40???

Exactly.

BETFAIR S/P $11.52 - $3.6.
N.S.W TOTE $11.20 - $3.2.

On course bookies $9.0 - $11.0- $10.0.

We are talking about a Saturday Metro race,
In Sydney at a Metro track it was the last race,
With a Field/Size of 14 exposed form and a BM-84.

The track rating was a G3 (No wet track).

And even if it's shorter than the others the place paying,
More than the win?.

Only answer, someone had a big bet on the S/Tab,
Before they jumped, if it was an all up the tote would have kept,
Drifting.

As Pauline Hanson would say (PLEASE EXPLAIN ),
Pity the poor people who backed it on S/TAB to cop that Dividend.

Maybe someone else can explain other than my thoughts above.

Well done on landing the free bet Ocho.
Was never in doubt after half time.

Guess your next post will be.

What do I do with the winnings? ("L O L'")

Cheers.
Garyf.

Take a look at this link, this is what i see.


https://lite.tab.com.au/nsw/racing/...OSEHILL/RSH/R/8


Woops my bad, was supposed to be a Vic link but was set to NSW, lol, now i see it.

Click on the Vic button, it defaults to NSW.

L O L thought something was up,
That's why I didn't reply.

Have never seen a discrepancy of,
This magnitude on a Sat-Metro race.

Have now.

Cheers.

i think its "fat fingers" that no-one noticed till after the race
the t/o in Stab on this race was almost higher then NSWT.
normally it is about 50- 60%

if anyone was keen enough and had deep enough pockets they would have backed it differently.

OR

it was a huge all up on stab that ended in R8.

i might point it out to a journo mate of mine and get him on the case and see what happens

Hi Aussie.

When they hit the line I as always wrote down the,
Best of 3 totes then the S/Tab.

When the $3.00 came up on S/TAB I kept waiting,
As I thought it was a mistake looking at the other 2 x totes,
Then the flucts.

I wasn't till I actually checked the VICT Website,
Then 3-4 corporates that I conceded that was the,
Actual dividend 30 minutes after correct weight.


As I said earlier I've never seen a discrepancy,
Like that ever on a Sat-Metro Meeting.

I reckon it was someone having a big bet on it,
With S/Tab as you would think an all up would drift,
Out towards the end when the overs on the tote,
Trimmed up to their ring price.

Someone obviously doesn't know how to bet,
Or doesn't want anyone to know,
If you can affect a tote dividend like that


I am surprised nothing has been said about it in the papers,
Unless I missed it somewhere.

If you can find out it would be good to know.

Cheers.
Garyf.

the all up wouldn't drift if it was like 100k - which it must have been near.

and it must have come on right at the end or they would have seen it as a buig time firmer.

mind you i have seen fat fingers at the TAB before - but most of the time it is reversed.

one will drop to about say $1.50 but only for a minute or so and then it is fixed

Well done Aussie you were correct.

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/s...5-1227074349287

Cheers.
Garyf.

Well there you go, it wasn't me either.

A prime example of in parimutual pools, one is betting against oneself at high stakes.

That's true but if you are not a layer arber or volume bettor who is moderately successful enough to be restricted by the bookies where else do you go?

Most of the time getting matched on Betfair for $100s at $5-10 odds is a chancy affair, at least I found so.

Well Aussie, 'fat fingers' is getting about lately, a piece from the SMH
today:

Fattest finger? $711 billion scrapped in epic Japanese share trading error

Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/business/mark...l#ixzz3EsXdhP8C

It can happen on a much smaller scale when you type in your bets and you are in a hurry.

Has to me anyway !

Yes it happened to me today. Once a race is late starting and another is about to go, you click next race on Betfair and it takes you one race past the one you wanted. When races get behind and having multiple screens, betting on all racing codes, it can all go a little 'haywire'? I thought I placed a bet on Monashee Moon at Ipswich gallops and ended up placing a bet on Madam Crash at Angle Park Greys....lol. Just looking at TAB numbers and not paying attention to the name.

The worst one I ever encountered was going from using a mouse and desktop computer through the day, and then use a tablet with app in the evening to place bets. You think you've placed a Lay bet on the tablet, when in fact it was a Back bet. You learn by your mistakes quickly, with that one!

At 11.45pm on Wednesday night, an innocuous Beginners Steeplechase was run at Sligo, Ireland.

Contested by a small field of six, the 3400m event was taken out by the starting favourite Elsie, with Sweet Sylvia – who SP’d at 33/1 – filling second place three-and-a-half lengths in arrears.

A couple of lucky Australian punters (and surely there couldn’t have been more than one or two!) who deigned to back Sweet Sylvia for the place with Tattsbet (Unitab) would have woken up to a nice little collect in the morning…



A $352.60 place dividend is perhaps not as surprising as it might seem, however, when you consider that a jumps race in the middle of the night is unlikely to attract any significant money in its various Australian tote pools. The experienced late-night punter would be well accustomed to the fact that small pools invariably equal quirky dividends, with at least one of the three totes often throwing up a bizarre result.

Upon closer inspection, however, there WAS significant money in the Unitab pool for the Siglo race – the place pool that is!

Though a decidedly moderate $1,157 was wagered on the win pool, a whopping $15,629 landed in the place pool. Compare that to the $408 bet into the place pool in the following race at Siglo, and it would seem that pool manipulation is still alive and well...



With both favoured runners paying $1.00 for the place and the rest of the field paying $279.20, $352.60, $176.30 and $279.20 respectively, it would appear that someone has had approximately $7,000 apiece on both favourites to place, thus forcing out the prices of all the other runners.

In days gone by, pool manipulation has been a very common occurrence, with punting syndicates launching huge money on runners in certain states in order to profit from ‘best tote’-type products from the corporate bookmakers.

Most bookies are firmly protected against pool manipulation now – especially in overseas and greyhound races – rarely offering anything better than a ‘middle tote’ product for place dividends (and often deferring to the dividend as declared by the official tote at the track where the race is held).

There may still have been a way to pull off the coup, however. Sportingbet, for example, are known to offer 'middle tote' or 'pick a tote' on Irish racing (though they do cap the dividend at $101).



All it would have taken is a few hundred dollar place bets (perhaps across a few accounts) on the four unfavoured runners - selecting Tatts Tab as the preferred tote, of course - to score a big payout (bearing in mind that the $7,000 the place bet on one of the favourites on the totes has already been returned to the punters, given that it placed).

Whilst its difficult to ascertain if in fact the Sweet Sylvia race resulted in a big collect, it’s heartening to think that some intrepid punters might still be scheming in the shadows trying to strike a blow against the bagmen!

Cheers.
Garyf.

https://www.facebook.com/video.php?...&type=2&theater

If only all jockeys were this desperate to win a race ("L.O.L")

Cheers.
Garyf.