3rd Declarations as of today (order of entry)

1 Mummify (Lee Freedman)
2 Mamool (IRE) (Saeed Bin Suroor)
3 Jardines Lookout (IRE) (Alan Jarvis)
4 Millstreet (GB) (Saeed Bin Suroor)
5 Honor Babe (NZ) (Katrina Alexander)
6 Zagalia (NZ) (Clarry Conners)
7 Pentastic (David Hall)
8 Hail (NZ) (Bruce Marsh)
9 Makybe Diva (GB) (David Hall)
10 Mr. Prudent (George Hanlon)
11 County Tyrone (Kris Lees)
12 Strasbourg (Bart Cummings)
13 Holy Orders (IRE) (W P Mullins) #
14 Distinctly Secret (NZ) (Mark Walker)
15 She's Archie (Darren Weir)
16 Hugs Dancer (FR) (James Given)
17 Ain't Seen Nothin' (Barbara Joseph)
18 Frightening (Bart Cummings)
19 Yakama (Bevan Laming)
20 Legible (NZ) (Bradley Marzato)
21 Schumpeter (Peter G Moody)
22 Debben (Leon Macdonald)
23 Grey Song (Tommy Hughes)
24 Piachay (NZ) (David Hall)
25 Tumeric (Lee Freedman)
26 Oarsman (NZ) (Paul Duncan)
27 Sir Pentire (NZ) (Robbie Laing)
28 Fawaz (Graeme Rogerson)
29 Bold Bard (Bryce Stanaway)
30 Ascana (Louise Bonella)
31 The Mighty Lions (NZ) (Michael Moroney)
32 Big Pat (Robbie Griffiths)


NOT PASSED 1ST BALLOTING CLAUSE BUT MAY BE DECLARED AS A FINAL ACCEPTOR AND ELIGIBLE TO START

33 Extolling Virtue (David Edwards)
34 Milzeel (NZ) (Michael Moroney)
35 Tomorrow's Party (NZ) (Michael Moroney)

To be exempt from ballot - winner & 2nd SAAB QUALITY - Nov 1

1 JARDINES LOOKOUT (IRE) Alan Jarvis 55.5
2 MAMOOL (IRE) Saeed Bin Suroor 55.5
3 MUMMIFY Lee Freedman 55 2.5
4 MILLSTREET (GB) Saeed Bin Suroor 54.5
5 HAIL (NZ) Bruce Marsh 53.5
6 PENTASTIC David Hall 53.5
7 COUNTY TYRONE Kris Lees 53
8 HOLY ORDERS (IRE) Willie Mullins 53
9 MR. PRUDENT George Hanlon 53
10 DISTINCTLY SECRET (NZ) Mark Walker 52.5
11 HUGS DANCER (FR) James Given 52
12 HONOR BABE (NZ) Katrina Alexander 51.5
13 STRASBOURG Bart Cummings 51.5
14 GREY SONG Tommy Hughes 51
15 MAKYBE DIVA (GB) David Hall 51
16 OARSMAN (NZ) Paul Duncan 51
17 PIACHAY (NZ) David Hall 51
18 TUMERIC Lee Freedman 51
19 FRIGHTENING Bart Cummings 50 1.0
20 SCHUMPETER Peter G Moody 50
21 SHE'S ARCHIE Darren Weir 50
22 ZAGALIA (NZ) Clarry Conners 50
23 TOMORROW'S PARTY (NZ) Michael Moroney 49.5
24 AIN'T SEEN NOTHIN' Barbara Joseph 49
25 ASCANA Louise Bonella 49
26 BIG PAT Robbie Griffiths 49
27 BOLD BARD Bryce Stanaway 49
28 DEBBEN Leon Macdonald 49
29 FAWAZ Graeme Rogerson 49
30 LEGIBLE (NZ) Bradley Marzato 49
31 MILZEEL (NZ) Michael Moroney 49
32 SIR PENTIRE (NZ) Robbie Laing 49
33 THE MIGHTY LIONS (NZ) Michael Moroney 49
34 YAKAMA Bevan Laming 49
35 EXTOLLING VIRTUE David Edwards 46

NSWTAB Fixed Odds

Prices at: 13:44:01, 27 Oct 2003
No. Selection Win Place
251 Mamool $6.50 $2.35
275 Mummify $6.50 $2.35
250 Makybe Diva $7.00 $2.50
375 Zagalia $7.00 $2.50
163 Distinctly Secret $9.00 $3.00
177 Frightening $11.00 $3.50
192 Grey Song $11.00 $3.50
209 Hugs Dancer $15.00 $4.50
206 Honor Babe $17.00 $5.00
337 Strasbourg $17.00 $5.00
293 Pentastic $21.00 $6.00
272 Mr. Prudent $26.00 $7.25
101 Ain't Seen Nothin' $34.00 $9.25
219 Jardines Lookout $34.00 $9.25
260 Millstreet $34.00 $9.25
358 Tumeric $34.00 $9.25
147 County Tyrone $41.00 $11.00
321 She's Archie $41.00 $11.00
195 Hail $51.00 $13.50
235 Legible $51.00 $13.50
381 Holy Orders $51.00 $13.50
373 Yakama $67.00 $17.50
171 Fawaz $101.00 $26.00
286 Oarsman $101.00 $26.00
296 Piachay $101.00 $26.00
318 Schumpeter $126.00 $32.25
157 Debben $151.00 $38.50
327 Sir Pentire $151.00 $38.50
115 Big Pat $201.00 $51.00
350 The Mighty Lions $201.00 $51.00
353 Tomorrow's Party $201.00 $51.00
105 Ascana $251.00 $63.50
261 Milzeel $251.00 $63.50
121 Bold Bard $301.00 $76.00
169 Extolling Virtue $301.00 $76.00

Mamool

Main Godolphin entry who has had group 1 victories in Germany after weights were allocated. This would suggest he has beaten the handicapper.

Date Course Going Dist. Draw Code Placed
16/8/2003 NEWBURY Unknown 1m5f 1 Flat 3rd
19/6/2003 ASCOT Good to Firm 2m4f 2 Flat 5th
15/5/2003 YORK Good to Firm 1m5f 2 Flat 1st
14/9/2002 DONCASTER Good to Firm 1m6f 8 Flat 4th
21/6/2002 ASCOT Good to Firm 2m0f 4 Flat 1st
11/5/2002 LINGFIELD PARK Good 1m3f 2 Flat 4th
26/9/2001 GOODWOOD Good to Firm 1m0f 7 Flat 1st
17/8/2001 NEWBURY Good to Firm 7f 2 Flat 2nd
3/8/2001 NEWMARKET Good 7f 4 Flat 2nd



Jardines Lookout

Running on well late to finish seventh in last year’s Cup. Seems to have performed creditably since.

Date Course Going Dist. Draw Code Placed
19/8/2003 YORK Good to Firm 1m7f 3 Flat 5th
31/7/2003 GOODWOOD Good to Soft 2m0f 2 Flat 2nd
19/6/2003 ASCOT Good to Firm 2m4f 3 Flat 4th
15/5/2003 YORK Good to Firm 1m5f 1 Flat 6th
12/9/2002 DONCASTER Good to Firm 2m2f 3 Flat 4th
20/8/2002 YORK Good 1m7f 7 Flat 6th
1/8/2002 GOODWOOD Good to Firm 2m0f 3 Flat 1st
20/6/2002 ASCOT Good to Firm 2m4f 3 Flat 9th
16/5/2002 YORK Good to Firm 1m5f 6 Flat 3rd
13/9/2001 DONCASTER Good to Firm 2m2f 6 Flat 5th
21/8/2001 YORK Good 1m7f 1 Flat 2nd
2/8/2001 GOODWOOD Good to Firm 2m0f 13 Flat 9th
21/6/2001 ASCOT Good to Firm 2m4f 1 Flat 3rd
28/5/2001 SANDOWN PARK Good to Firm 2m0f 7 Flat 7th
17/5/2001 YORK Good to Firm 1m5f 1 Flat 5th



Millstreet

Godolphin second string.
Recent form not all that hot. Millstreet best performance in 2002 was when he won the Listed Finale Stakes over 2400M at the Curragh, Ireland. In this race to ensure a pace??

12/9/2003 DONCASTER Good 1m4f 5 Flat 5th
23/8/2003 WINDSOR Good to Firm 1m3f 5 Flat 2nd




Holy Orders

Reported that this jumper/flat runner will stay all day and can handle any type of surface. His form doesn’t strike me as being all that impressive.


Date Course Going Dist. Draw Code Placed
20/8/2003 YORK Good to Firm 1m5f 16 Flat 6th
13/3/2003 CHELTENHAM Good 2m1f - Jump NR
11/3/2003 CHELTENHAM Good 2m0f - Jump 8th
8/2/2003 NEWBURY Good 2m0f - Jump 23rd
21/12/2002 ASCOT Good to Soft 2m0f - Jump 9th
21/6/2002 ASCOT Good to Firm 1m2f 4 Flat 7th
18/6/2002 ASCOT Good 1m4f 4 Flat 2nd
19/6/2001 ASCOT Good 1m4f 5 Flat 8th




Hugs Dancer

This fellow has previously won England's premier staying handicap, the Ebor (2800m) at York, a race that Give The Slip won two years before. This form line is proven, as Give The Slip was narrowly defeated by Ethereal in the Cup.

Wide throughout in the CC. Beaten only three lengths in fast time.

Date Course Going Dist. Draw Code Placed
11/9/2003 DONCASTER Good 2m2f 1 Flat 3rd
20/8/2003 YORK Good to Firm 1m5f 9 Flat 22nd
12/7/2003 YORK Good 1m5f 4 Flat 1st
28/6/2003 NEWCASTLE Good to Firm 2m0f 18 Flat 8th
26/5/2003 SANDOWN PARK Good to Firm 2m0f 9 Flat 8th
7/5/2003 CHESTER Good 2m2f 2 Flat 1st
19/10/2002 NEWMARKET Good to Soft 2m2f 25 Flat 5th
21/8/2002 YORK Good 1m5f 20 Flat 1st
10/8/2002 ASCOT Soft 2m0f 11 Flat NR
31/7/2002 GOODWOOD Good to Firm 2m5f 7 Flat 1st
13/7/2002 ASCOT Good 2m0f 2 Flat 4th
29/6/2002 NEWCASTLE Good to Firm 2m0f 3 Flat 4th
27/6/2002 CARLISLE Good 1m3f 14 Flat 1st
19/6/2002 ASCOT Good 2m4f 19 Flat 7th
15/5/2002 YORK Good to Firm 1m5f 8 Flat 2nd

Hi Paddy,

It's a bit early, but initially I have the field down this in my chances...

No. Selection Win Place
251 Mamool $6.50 $2.35
275 Mummify $6.50 $2.35
375 Zagalia $7.00 $2.50
177 Frightening $11.00 $3.50
209 Hugs Dancer $15.00 $4.50
272 Mr. Prudent $26.00 $7.25
219 Jardines Lookout $34.00 $9.25
260 Millstreet $34.00 $9.25
381 Holy Orders $51.00 $13.50

I will follow suit C.P,

Here are my current top 10:

No. Selection Win Place
251 Mamool $6.50 $2.35
275 Mummify $6.50 $2.35
250 Makybe Diva $7.00 $2.50
375 Zagalia $7.00 $2.50
163 Distinctly Secret $9.00 $3.00
209 Hugs Dancer $15.00 $4.50
206 Honor Babe $17.00 $5.00
337 Strasbourg $17.00 $5.00
272 Mr. Prudent $26.00 $7.25
219 Jardines Lookout $34.00 $9.25








[ This Message was edited by: testarossa on 2003-10-27 16:29 ]

I will follow suit C.P,

Here are my current top 10:

No. Selection Win Place
251 Mamool $6.50 $2.35
275 Mummify $6.50 $2.35
250 Makybe Diva $7.00 $2.50
375 Zagalia $7.00 $2.50
163 Distinctly Secret $9.00 $3.00
209 Hugs Dancer $15.00 $4.50
206 Honor Babe $17.00 $5.00
337 Strasbourg $17.00 $5.00
272 Mr. Prudent $26.00 $7.25
219 Jardines Lookout $34.00 $9.25

Cheers

Can be a problem when you forget which character you are playing :roll:

El Gordo,
Clear as mud-- want to enlighten?

Like many I have been impressed by the last two runs put in by Frightening. And his other runner Strasbourg, any chance? Can the Cups King do it again?

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[ This Message was edited by: Sandgroper on 2003-10-27 17:47 ]

I can assure you El Gordo that myself and Chrome Prince are different characters.

I'll have a go here to it is early


251 Mamool $6.50 $2.35
275 Mummify $6.50 $2.35
250 Makybe Diva $7.00 $2.50
177 Frightening $11.00 $3.50
192 Grey Song $11.00 $3.50
209 Hugs Dancer $15.00 $4.50
206 Honor Babe $17.00 $5.00
272 Mr. Prudent $26.00 $7.25
147 County Tyrone $41.00 $11.00
373 Yakama $67.00 $17.50

Looking forward to Singo shouting drinks for 100,000+ after the Cup

Grey Song will go close to winning the cup....but frightening scares the hell out of me

A total lottery here so I got the Monkey's to throw their darts.

Came up with:

Strasbourg
Grey Song
Distinctly Secret

[Now dumping this lot for a later post]

Cheers.



[ This Message was edited by: crash on 2003-11-03 11:33 ]

My top ten selections

250 Makybe Diva $7.00 $2.50
163 Distinctly Secret $9.00 $3.00
177 Frightening $11.00 $3.50
192 Grey Song $11.00 $3.50
209 Hugs Dancer $15.00 $4.50
206 Honor Babe $17.00 $5.00
337 Strasbourg $17.00 $5.00
272 Mr. Prudent $26.00 $7.25
358 Tumeric $34.00 $9.25
381 Holy Orders $51.00 $13.50

This years field seems very weak.

County Tyrone
Mamool

I am going to stick with Mummify after her effort in the Caulfield Cup. I have never been overly keen on backing the international horses, even though they may be superstars where they have been racing, it is normally a much different story when they get to Melbourne. Will be interesting to see how Mamool goes.

would that be after his run houndsy?

My apology TESTAROSSA, no doubt you and Chrome Prince are in fact different “characters”. I should be more (be)careful as to any assertion that I may make. Bye :smile:

Prices at: 09:57:18, 29 Oct 2003
No. Selection Win Place
251 Mamool $6.50 $2.35
275 Mummify $6.50 $2.35
250 Makybe Diva $7.00 $2.50
375 Zagalia $7.00 $2.50
163 Distinctly Secret $9.00 $3.00
177 Frightening $11.00 $3.50
192 Grey Song $11.00 $3.50
209 Hugs Dancer $15.00 $4.50
206 Honor Babe $17.00 $5.00
337 Strasbourg $17.00 $5.00
272 Mr. Prudent $26.00 $7.25
293 Pentastic $26.00 $7.25
260 Millstreet $34.00 $9.25
101 Ain't Seen Nothin' $41.00 $11.00
147 County Tyrone $41.00 $11.00
358 Tumeric $41.00 $11.00
381 Holy Orders $41.00 $11.00
219 Jardines Lookout $51.00 $13.50
321 She's Archie $51.00 $13.50
195 Hail $67.00 $17.50
235 Legible $67.00 $17.50
373 Yakama $67.00 $17.50
296 Piachay $101.00 $26.00
157 Debben $151.00 $38.50
286 Oarsman $151.00 $38.50
318 Schumpeter $151.00 $38.50
115 Big Pat $201.00 $51.00
171 Fawaz $201.00 $51.00
327 Sir Pentire $201.00 $51.00
261 Milzeel $251.00 $63.50
350 The Mighty Lions $251.00 $63.50
353 Tomorrow's Party $251.00 $63.50
105 Ascana $301.00 $76.00
121 Bold Bard $301.00 $76.00
169 Extolling Virtue $301.00 $76.00

Looking quickly drifters include Pentastic, Ain't Seen Nothin', Jardines Lookout, Tumeric, She's Archie & Hail.

The report is that Tumeric will not be having another run before the Cup so will need a little luck to make the final field. If you read this Mr Handicapper, happy to share with you some of the 100/1 I got many weeks back! nudge, nudge :wink: :wink:

Yes Umrum, that would be after 'His' run. Hope HE goes well. Good pick up.

: )

NSWTAB Prices at: 15:14:10, 30 Oct 2003

No. Selection Win Place
251 Mamool $6.50 $2.35
275 Mummify $6.50 $2.35
250 Makybe Diva $7.00 $2.50
375 Zagalia $7.00 $2.50
163 Distinctly Secret $9.00 $3.00
177 Frightening $11.00 $3.50
192 Grey Song $11.00 $3.50
209 Hugs Dancer $15.00 $4.50
337 Strasbourg $17.00 $5.00
272 Mr. Prudent $26.00 $7.25
293 Pentastic $26.00 $7.25
260 Millstreet $34.00 $9.25
101 Ain't Seen Nothin' $41.00 $11.00
147 County Tyrone $41.00 $11.00
358 Tumeric $41.00 $11.00
381 Holy Orders $41.00 $11.00
219 Jardines Lookout $51.00 $13.50
321 She's Archie $51.00 $13.50
195 Hail $67.00 $17.50
235 Legible $67.00 $17.50
373 Yakama $67.00 $17.50
296 Piachay $101.00 $26.00
157 Debben $151.00 $38.50
286 Oarsman $151.00 $38.50
318 Schumpeter $151.00 $38.50
115 Big Pat $201.00 $51.00
171 Fawaz $201.00 $51.00
327 Sir Pentire $201.00 $51.00
261 Milzeel $251.00 $63.50
350 The Mighty Lions $251.00 $63.50
353 Tomorrow's Party $251.00 $63.50
105 Ascana $301.00 $76.00
121 Bold Bard $301.00 $76.00
169 Extolling Virtue $301.00 $76.00
206 Honor Babe Eliminated Eliminated

Honor Babe out - movement up the ladder for Tumeric :smile:




Honor Babe

Whittled down and still early, but I now have the field down this in my chances...

Mamool
Mummify
Zagalia
Frightening
Hugs Dancer
Mr. Prudent
Millstreet

Possibly Grey Song if it rains, but after the weekend I'll be making the final cut or alterations.

Any 2 of the kings proposed dozen, at least.

Strasbourg is out of the Mackinnon and Melbourne Cup

thanks paddy.
just found out...

FINAL FIELD with barriers

Number Horse Barrier Weight KGS
1 Jardines Lookout 12 55.5
2 Mamool 11 55.5
3 Mummify 10 55
4 Millstreet 23 54.5
5 Pentastic 1 53.5
6 County Tyrone 13 53
7 Holy Orders 21 53
8 Mr Prudent 7 53
9 Distinctly Secret 19 52.5
10 Hugs Dancer 14 52
11 Grey Song 20 51
12 Makybe Diva 15 51
13 Piachay 22 51
14 Tumeric 17 51
15 Frightening 4 50
16 Schumpeter 8 50
17 Aint' Seen Nothin' 16 49
18 Zagalia 24 50
19 She's Archie 9 50
20 Big Pat 18 49
21 Bold Bard 6 49
22 Debben 5 49
23 Fawaz 3 49
24 Yakama 2 49

NSWTAB Prices at: 19:06:40, 1 Nov 2003

No. Selection Win Place
002 Mamool $6.50 $2.35
003 Mummify $7.50 $2.60
012 Makybe Diva $7.50 $2.60
005 Pentastic $9.00 $3.00
015 Frightening $9.00 $3.00
018 Zagalia $9.00 $3.00
009 Distinctly Secret $10.00 $3.25
011 Grey Song $13.00 $4.00
010 Hugs Dancer $16.00 $4.75
008 Mr. Prudent $26.00 $7.25
004 Millstreet $34.00 $9.25
007 Holy Orders $41.00 $11.00
024 Yakama $41.00 $11.00
001 Jardines Lookout $51.00 $13.50
006 County Tyrone $51.00 $13.50
014 Tumeric $51.00 $13.50
017 She's Archie $51.00 $13.50
019 Ain't Seen Nothin' $51.00 $13.50
020 Big Pat $51.00 $13.50
023 Fawaz $51.00 $13.50
013 Piachay $126.00 $32.25
016 Schumpeter $151.00 $38.50
021 Bold Bard $251.00 $63.50
022 Debben $251.00 $63.50

(2) MAMOOL
(11) GREY SONG
(10) HUGS DANCER
(6) COUNTY TYRONE

Grey song again , but PLACE only

Hi
I like MAMOOL if the ground is good or faster and HOLY ORDERS will be at home if the ground is soft.
Anyone tell me what the likely going will be?

My top five picks are:

Pentastic
Mummify
Makybe Diva
Distinctly Secret
Mamool

Distinctly Secret
Mamool
Zagalia
Pentastic

Down to top four picks.

Frightening
Mr. Prudent
Millstreet
Grey Song

These also have a chance for multiples.
So many picks because it's a damn raffle!

A very poor field we have sent in this year.
Cranbourne Cup looks like.

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[ This Message was edited by: Chrome Prince on 2003-11-02 13:06 ]

MARMOOL
MUMMIFY
PENTASTIC

WILLIAM

Hi davyork. Track at Flemington yesterday was slow. I’m not from Melbourne but forecast for Melbourne today - cloudy at times with a shower or two. Moderate to fresh southwest to southerly winds. Tomorrow - the chance of an early shower then fine. Cloudy periods with mostly light wind. Tuesday – Sunny. I would guess at this stage – perhaps track might be a little worse than good (dead), but suggest you check back in later.



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[ This Message was edited by: Sandgroper on 2003-11-02 15:03 ]

Hugs Dancer all the way whatever the track condition.

Pentastic, Grey Song , Mamool, Mr Prudent for the minors.

Hugs Dancer all the way whatever the track condition.

Pentastic, Grey Song , Mamool, Mr Prudent for the minors.

Well I am going over the field and I must say this is one of the poorest Cup fields I have seen I guess when you lose the likes of Strasbourgh, Honor Babe and Half Hennessey just to name a few it can't help.

My picks are as follows and I gotta say this hard trying to go over the european form with not alot of idea how to take it but here goes.


Makybe Diva
County Tyrone
Mr. Prudent
Frightening
Pentastic
Holy Orders

That will be the Triffecta I put on not sure how I will seperate them yet but I will have atleast Makybe Diva on top.