Perth, 8th Nov, 2003

Race 2 - No 7 Keldaan E/W

Race 4 - No 7 Swift Jeune

Race 5 - No 10 Dante's Kalista E/W

Race 1 No. 12 Old Sol
Race 4 No. 7 Swift Jeune
Race 6 No. 2 Hot Shot Brother
Race 8 No. 6 King Canute

A profit to you both - well done!

I for one can't wait till the summer carnival starts, even if we might still be racing at Belmont :eek:

The NSWTAB is betting on Pinjarra today -any tips? - how about a tip for the Town Cup :smile: :wink:

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[ This Message was edited by: Paddy on 2003-11-09 09:05 ]

Thanks Paddy. Not one of my better days, but that's racing.

For today like the following, good luck.

RACE 5 AIKO & GUARDED ANSWER
RACE 6 DOLLY ZIUTO & CLASSY CHARMER
RACE 7 FEEL THE PULSE & STOCKIE'S YARN
RACE 8 HE FOR HIDEY & PRECIOUS RESOURCE
RACE 9 LORD SPICE & SHOOTERS ALL ROUND

Hi Paddy :smile:

On his best form Stockie’s Yarn would almost be a special in the cup.
Stephen Miller, who I believe is an underrated jock, has previously ridden him only once – for 1 win.

However Stockie’s Yarn recent two starts following a spell, have been well below his “normal” first/second-up previous performances, so if he is not on his mettle, others like Grand Cavalier, Aussie Strike, Feel The Pulse and perhaps Air Of Supremacy, could greet the judge :wink:


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Sandgroper :smile:

[ This Message was edited by: Sandgroper on 2003-11-09 13:32 ]

what a disgrace that we are still racing at belmont. The turf club in their infinite wisdom have taken most of the monitors away to ascot and the tables and chairs. Fair dinkum how is this committee still in office.
They are a disgrace. All they worry about is the breeding side of it not the punters and trainers and owners. If the railway stakes is at belmont they should resign in embarrassment.

I must say I’m still amazed that they got themselves into this pickle. Same schedule every year, same weather factors, etc………unbelievable!.

Latest news, we will be racing at Belmont up to & including Wed 26th November, Ascot on the 29th (Railway Stakes) and the 6th December. Back to Belmont (midweek) 10th Dec. Then back to Ascot for remainder of their season.


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Sandgroper :smile:

[ This Message was edited by: Sandgroper on 2003-11-11 15:43 ]

Seems the repaired track is unlikely to be ready for November 29, according to the latest press release.

The Ascot track will be inspected on November 18, following this an announcment will be made as to when racing will return to Ascot.

The return to Ascot could more probaly be for the big Perth Cup meeting on January 1.

W.A. GUINEAS 1600M on Saturday, any thoughts westernites? :smile:

1 LAETARE E A Martinovich P J Harvey 17 56
2 RIVER MIST G E Daly P D Knuckey 2 56
3 ON TARGET C A Stelmach P J Carbery 11 56
4 CHANGING LANES R C Mc Pherson K Forrester 10 56
5 STAR TREK Neville Parnham S D Parnham (a) 18 56
6 MAGIC ACES P J Giadresco S J Miller 9 56
7 CAT IN A HAT T M Andrews W R Hughes (a) 4 56
8 DESIGNER LABEL D H Hopperton D A O'Heare 12 56
9 MARSHALL VIC R C Mc Pherson J F Miller 14 56
10 WOODCUTTER'S RED Lou Luciani T K Turner 1 56
11 SENECA C A Stelmach C K Harvey 20 56
12 DIAMOND DASH David Edwards J S Whiting 8 53.5
13 DETAIL T M Andrews J J Brown 3 53.5
14 BELHARI W J Bradshaw Ms A D Sansom 15 53.5
15 MOONFIRE Lindsey Smith T K Jackman 7 53.5
16 SPIRIT LADY Fred Kersley J P Claite 6 53.5
17E HAPPY JOHNSON G C Ballantyne N A Chapman 19 56
18E TISSOT S R Bates 16 53.5
19E COLD REWARD Neville Parnham 5 53.5
20E OLD SOL B Wilkinson 13 56

LAETARE looks the one to beat Paddy. Has the speed to overcome a wide draw and with the services of Paul Harvey, hopefully will get a nice run in transit.

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Sandgroper :smile:

[ This Message was edited by: Sandgroper on 2003-11-14 00:43 ]

Magic Aces (6) - well drawn & should be well ridden. Ready to show best following 2 starts from a spell.

Laetare (1) - agree Sandgroper, a good chance. Slight doubt over the distance from a wide draw.

Cat In A Hat (7) - improved effort with the addition of blinkers added last start. Should be a nice price.

Detail (13) - blinkers added. Looks the best chance from the ladies.

How about your thoughts on the Group II Lee Steere Stakes as well, if you don't mind lads :wink:

No. Horse Trainer Jockey Barrier Weight
1 OLD FASHION V A Brockman P D Knuckey 6 58
2 FINITO P H Humann D J Staeck 5 58
3 HARDRADA Lou Luciani J S Whiting 8 58
4 CORPORATE BRUCE Hec Mc Laren C K Harvey 3 58
5 BLEVVO D R Harrison P B Farrell 7 58
6 KENSYL BAY T W Widdeson G L Smith 13 58
7 MAIN STAGE A R Taylor T K Jackman 12 58
8 TRACK JESTER W L Radford P J Carbery 14 58
9 MODEM T M Andrews T K Turner 2 58
10 MAPPERHOLIC S J Wolfe P J Harvey 4 58
11 EARLY EXPRESS P J Giadresco P Hall 9 58
12 AUSSIE STRIKE R B Rogers J F Miller 11 58
13 TRIBULA A H Mortimer S J Miller 1 55.5
14 GOLDEN DELICIOUS Jim Taylor J J Brown 10 55.5

TRIBULA the one to beat Paddy. Forget her last run, never out of bother. From the 1 alley should sit just off the pace, or could even lead. Has services of top jock S J Miller.

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Sandgroper :smile:

[ This Message was edited by: Sandgroper on 2003-11-14 10:32 ]

Expect Finito (2) to run a great race fresh.

Top run by Old Fashion (1) last start, suited at WFA.

Hardrada (3) back to form with a vengeance.

Tribula (13) on her day, very smart.

WA Guineas - current fixed odds (ozbet)

RIVER MIST $4.60
LAETARE $5.50
ON TARGET $7.50
WOODCUTTERS RED $7.50
DETAIL $12.00
CHANGING LANES $14.00
DESIGNER LABEL $16.00
SPIRIT LADY $16.00
STAR TREK $18.00
CAT IN A HAT $18.00
DIAMOND DASH $18.00
MAGIC ACES $21.00
SENECA $21.00
BELHARI $26.00
OLD SOL (4E) $26.00
MOONFIRE $31.00
TISSOT (2E) $31.00
HAPPY JOHNSON (1E) $41.00
COLD REWARD (3E) $41.00
MARSHALL VIC $61.00


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All the best from the West

Sandgroper :smile:

[ This Message was edited by: Sandgroper on 2003-11-14 17:36 ]

Current fixed odds comparison - Lee Steere Stakes


Horse NSWTAB WATAB
HARDRADA $4.75 $4.40
TRIBULA $7.50 $4.40
MAPPERHOLIC $5.00 $4.80
OLD FASHION $7.50 $10.00
FINITO $10.00 $10.00
CORPORATE BRUCE $13.00 $10.00
GOLDEN DELICIOUS $8.00 $12.00
MODEM $12.00 $14.00
BLEVVO $15.00 $15.00
EARLY EXPRESS $13.00 $17.00
TRACK JESTER $17.00 $21.00
KENSYL BAY $67.00 $41.00
MAIN STAGE $81.00 $61.00
AUSSIE STRIKE $81.00 $126.00


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Sandgroper :smile:

[ This Message was edited by: Sandgroper on 2003-11-14 19:02 ]

KENSYL BAY $67.00 !! I'll have some of that :wink:

RACE 2 (3) TRIBULOT & (5) ELLICORSAM
RACE 3 (8) JOSIE'S SHOW & (11) UNCLE BRIAN
RACE 4 (7) KING JUGAH & (9) NOW'S GOOD
RACE 5 (3) ON TARGET, (1) LAETARE, (2) RIVER MIST & (12) DIAMOND DASH
RACE 6 (14) GOLDEN DELICIOUS, (13) TRIBULA, (10) MAPPERHOLIC & (4) CORPORATE BRUCE
RACE 7 (7) TRIBAL SECRET & (10) ON THE WATCH
RACE 8 (2) KENTIARA & (9) RESCUER

I like the look of Finito in this race fresh have followed both he and Modem in the past and Modem was a bit disappointing for me last start.

This is I think nearly the best race of the day anywhere when will they get some respect for there racing in the west always has good sized fields unlike sydney who far to often send out fields of 5-7 runners.

have said so for years.
out of the 5 capital cities if i had to drop one off my racing it would be sydney.
it is an embarassment these day.

also of the west have followed for several years. had a good result on the grey cardinal yesterday.
last gasp for the day.
wa racing is good.
nsw racing is a problem but we have been there before havent we.

Well I am origonaly from Sydney and would to to agree on that....the racing there is rubish...even there carnivals or off.....isn't it funny when Sydney has it carnivals that Melbourne can put on a good show and have good races....but when Melbourne have thier carnival Sydney just gives up....i will have to say and i am not sure if it is the capabilities of the handicapper but Sydney has a lot more winners and places comeing from the top numbers Melbourne can have them from anywhere Adelaide aswell....this makes me believe that the handicapper does a better job in Sydney....or maybe the form is easier to read...not sure on that...what are your views on this subject

or the quality in each race tails off very quickly.
20 years ago sydney used to be flavour of the month but over recent years dominance of large stables seems to have taken the oomph out of sydney racing.
in the recent carnival in melbourne out of 27 races i think sydney won 5 of the majors i assume john hawkes won those.
it would be interesting to see the percentages on the trainers e.g. the numbers trained by hawkes, waterhouse, connors, denham etc just to see the make up of sydney racing. then that might show us a picture of what we are talking about.
certainly very unexciting lately but. did manage a couple of winners there yesterday so should be greatful for small mercies.

I think more than anything in Sydney the problem is the dominance of Waterhouse and Hawkes. I don't know if it so much scares people away from the place but I think they would rather go either to a county meeting or to Melbourne or Brisbane than to go into a race which is made up of 50% Hawkes and Waterhouse.

I myself find iut hard to sit there and try and work the form out for a race when one trainer has 4 runners in it all with a very good chance of winning it you usually find that there is one of those horses there to set it up for one of there others.

Plus I guess I have alot against Gai cannot stand the woman and am happy pretty much every year come melbourne carnival time cause she rarely comes away with anything which really makes you wonder what goes on in Sydney where she dominates.

The $300,000 WFA Fruit 'N' Veg Stakes to be run on December 13, will now be over 2000m at Belmont instead of the traditional 1800m at Ascot.

Racing officials, owners and trainers, who met yesterday, agreed they would change the distance because there was not a safe 1800m starting point at Belmont.

R.J. PETERS STAKES - 1600M - Sat 22nd

No. Horse Trainer Jockey Barrier Weight
1 KENSYL BAY T W Widdeson G L Smith 2 57
2 KING'S ARCH Mick Whittle J J Brown 3 57
3 EXIT LANE M J Midgley J J Noske 8 56.5
4 KAME'S HOPE Colin Webster T K Turner 1 56
5 MAIN STAGE A R Taylor T K Jackman 16 56
6 MODEM T M Andrews P J Harvey 14 56
7 KIM LISA M Burnett R Burnett (a) 9 54.5
8 MOGUL Lindsey Smith P King 15 54.5
9 CRIMSON SAKURA R W Matthews J P Claite 6 54
10 DEAD EYE DICK B P Graham N A Chapman 18 54
11 DEDICATED MISS G F Durrant J F Miller 20 54
12 EUTECTIC G M Martin P D Knuckey 4 54
13 MR. TANZANIA Lou Luciani J S Whiting 12 54
14 SHANE'S BOY Michael Pateman P J Carbery 7 54
15 SIR BOLLINGER Tony McEvoy A Spiteri 10 54
16 THE GREY CARDINAL V G Ferrier W R Hughes 19 54
17E POLIWHIRL S L Miller S J Miller 5 54
18E ICE MAGIC T B Mahood 13 54
19E AIR OF SUPREMACY G W Webster (Snr) 17 54
20E HEAVY NOVA Fred Kersley 11 54

NSWTAB - Prices at: 09:24:54, 21 Nov 2003
No. Selection Win Place
002 King's Arch $4.50 $1.85
009 Crimson Sakura $6.00 $2.25
004 Kame's Hope $7.50 $2.60
006 Modem $7.50 $2.60
015 Sir Bollinger $8.00 $2.75
010 Dead Eye Dick $9.00 $3.00
013 Mr. Tanzania $11.00 $3.50
007 Kim Lisa $13.00 $4.00
008 Mogul $13.00 $4.00
017 Poliwhirl 1em $13.00 $3.75
014 Shane's Boy $17.00 $5.00
001 Kensyl Bay $21.00 $6.00
020 Heavy Nova 4em $26.00 $7.25
011 Dedicated Miss $34.00 $9.25
016 The Grey Cardinal $34.00 $9.25
012 Eutectic $41.00 $11.00
018 Ice Magic 2em $51.00 $13.50
003 Exit Lane $67.00 $17.50
005 Main Stage $67.00 $17.50
019 Air of Supremacy 3em $101.00 $26.00

Sir Bollinger looks a great EW bet. This lightly raced 5YO, trained by Tony McEvoy, seems well weighted, well drawn & doesn't mind the 1600M.

Modem with the services of Paul Harvey also looks a good chance. Great run last start, not tried over 1600m but races like the distance will suit.

The other visitor - King's Arch in great form of late.

My outsider - Main Stage.

great day of racing tomorrow fellas.

my esteemed tips.

Star Trek

Ice Magic

Tri - Box Lonicera, Hartley's Dream and Ellicorsam. really hard to pick the winner but i think those 3 will run the places.

Moon Talk - first up but smart as you like. value in tantra dancer and salavat

True Steel and King Canute

Roman arch and Mercury Halo

Exit Lane at big odds and Maybe Dead Eye Dick or crimson sakura - raffle - kensyl bay could be value.euctetic = smokey= knockout

Rulain, Prince of Vasac and Constaninople

cheers

umrum

[ This Message was edited by: umrum on 2003-11-21 18:43 ]

POLIWHIRL
MODEM
EUTECTIC
EXIT LANE

RAILWAY STAKES - 1600M - SATURDAY NOVEMBER 29, 2003

FINAL DECLARATIONS

1. OLD FASHION ........................ 56.0 Vern Brockman STEPHEN MILLER
2. ROMAN ARCH........................ 56.0 Mick Whittle NOEL CALLOW
3. FINITO ..................................... 55.0 Phil Humann DANIEL STAECK
4. TRIBULA ................................. 55.0 Arthur Mortimer ALANA SANSOM
5. HARDRADA ............................ 54.0 Lou Luciani JASON WHITING
6. CORPORATE BRUCE ............ 53.5 Hec McLaren CRAIG NEWITT
7. EMISSION ............................... 53.0 Cliff Brown DAMIEN OLIVER
8. EARLY EXPRESS................... 52.5 Peter Giadresco PETER HALL
9. KING'S ARCH ......................... 52.5 Mick Whittle DAVID TOOTELL
10. MAPPERHOLIC ...................... 52.5 Steve Wolfe PAUL HARVEY
11. RED HANNIGAN..................... 52.5 Lindsey Smith BRETT PREBBLE
12. SHIRAZAMATAZZ .................. 52.0 Fred Kersley PATRICK CARBERY
13. SUPERIOR STAR ................... 52.0 Neville Parnham STEVEN PARNHAM
14. MODEM................................... 51.5 Trevor Andrews TROY TURNER
15. TRACK JESTER ..................... 51.5 Warren Radford KEVIN FORRESTER
16. RIVER MIST ............................ 51.0 George Daly PETER KNUCKEY
17. DEXIAN E1............ 52.0 Alan Bergersen
18. KENSYL BAY E2............ 52.0 Tom Widdeson
19. KAME'S HOPE E3............ 51.5 Colin Webster
20. KENTIARA E4............ 51.0 Robert Harvey (Jnr)




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Sandgroper :smile:

[ This Message was edited by: Sandgroper on 2003-11-24 16:10 ]

nice field. Dont really understand how Red Hannigan and Emission get in so light at the weights. Is it just the turf club attracting Eastern states horses. Both are G1 placed and get way less than old charges Finitio and the pocket rocket Corporate Bruce.

My early tips are:

Finito
Corporate Bruce
Emission

and Hardrada.

will update closer to event after some serious form work.

RAILWAY STAKES with barrier draw.

No. Horse Weight Barrier Jockey Trainer
1. Old Fashion 56.0 19 Stephen Miller Vern Brockman
2. Roman Arch 56.0 9 Noel Callow Mick Whittle
3. Finito 55.0 15 Daniel Staeck Phil Humann
4. Tribula 55.0 4 Alana Sansom Arthur Mortimer
5. Hardrada 54.0 16 Jason Whiting Lou Luciani
6. Corporate Bruce 53.5 11 Craig Newitt Hec McLaren
7. Emission 53.0 5 Damien Oliver Cliff Brown
8. Early Express 52.5 14 Peter Hall Peter Giadresco
9. King’s Arch 52.5 7 Mick Whittle
10. Mapperholic 52.5 3 Paul Harvey Steve Wolfe
11. Red Hannigan 52.5 17 Brett Prebble Lindsey Smith
12. Shirazamatazz 52.0 1 Patrick Carbery Fred Kersley
13. Superior Star 52.0 8 Steven Parnham Neville Parnham
14. Modem 51.5 18 Troy Turner Trevor Andrews
15. Track Jester 51.5 20 Kevin Forrester Warren Radford
16. River Mist 51.0 10 Peter Knuckey George Daly
17. Dexian E1 52.0 13 Alan Bergersen
18. Kensyl Bay E2 52.0 12 Tom Widdeson
19. Kame’s Hope E3 51.5 6 Colin Webster
20. Kentiara E4 51.0 2 Robert Harvey (Jnr)


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Sandgroper :smile:

[ This Message was edited by: Sandgroper on 2003-11-25 12:49 ]

Very tough race (as usual)!

(7) Emission looks the best of the visitors. Nicely weighted, nicely drawn & has the services of Damien Oliver.

(14) Modem racing in the best form of his life – nothing on his back. From a wide draw likely to get back but should be motoring home.

(3) Finito as honest as they come. Down 0.5kg on last years effort in this race, beaten only 1.25len
behind Old Fashion.

(6) Corporate Bruce, a repeat of last years run would make him awfully hard to beat. Drops 1kg on that run beaten only a neck by Old Fashion (who has gone up 1.5kg)

And I’ve left out horses like Old Fashion, Hardrada, Mapperholic & Red Hannigan – all very good chances.

Tremendous race and very hard to sort out but right now this is how i am looking


Finito: Love this old timer and there was nothing not to like about his first up effort he is as consistent as they come

Modem: Drawn out in the backrow of the grandstand but he gets back anyway will be coming home hard at the end of this one will be tough to hold out with no weight

Roman Arch: The class horse of the race just wondering how much he has taken in the trip over to the west

Track Jester: will be getting home at the end of this one but he is drawn wider than Modem but I really liked the way he hit the line last start.

I thrown barriers out the window for now might change come saturday but we'll see what happens

Current WA TAB Odds

MAPPERHOLIC $5.00
EMISSION $7.00
ROMAN ARCH $7.00
MODEM $10.00
RED HANNIGAN $12.00
FINITO $13.00
CORPORATE BRUCE $14.00
EARLY EXPRESS $14.00
HARDRADA $16.00
TRIBULA $16.00
OLD FASHION $17.00
RIVER MIST $18.00
TRACK JESTER $18.00
KENTIARA (4E) $31.00
KINGS ARCH $31.00
SHIRAZAMATAZZ $35.00
SUPERIOR STAR $35.00
KENSYL BAY (2E) $61.00
DEXIAN (1E) $71.00
KAMES HOPE (3E) $71.00


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All the best from the West

Sandgroper :smile:

[ This Message was edited by: Sandgroper on 2003-11-25 21:40 ]

For a bit fun only (so, so meeting for betting), Belmont tomorrow-

Race 1 (5) Gloravega & (6) Racontune
Race 2 (2) Rainbow Spectre & (5) Hereditary
Race 3 (4) Lionheart & (6) Major Key
Race 4 (2) Caribbean Royale & (5) Scuetto
Race 5 (5) Mint Play & (8) Maximus Munius
Race 6 (4) Road Back & (10) Mica Star
Race 7 (6) Le Dolphin & (9) Don’t Say Don’t
Race 8 (4) Cherry Blossom & (10) Djeddah Sting

KENTIARA would have a great EW hope (currently 30/1) but very unlikley to get a start - 4th reserve :sad:

NSWTAB Fixed Odds - Prices at: 11:13:52, 27 Nov 2003
No. Selection Win Place
010 Mapperholic $5.50 $2.10
007 Emission $6.00 $2.25
002 Roman Arch $6.50 $2.35
014 Modem $9.00 $3.00
003 Finito $11.00 $3.50
005 Hardrada $11.00 $3.50
016 River Mist $11.00 $3.50
008 Early Express $13.00 $4.00
006 Corporate Bruce $15.00 $4.50
001 Old Fashion $21.00 $6.00
004 Tribula $21.00 $6.00
015 Track Jester $21.00 $6.00
020 Kentiara 4em $26.00 $7.25
009 King's Arch $41.00 $11.00
013 Superior Star $41.00 $11.00
018 Kensyl Bay 2em $51.00 $13.50
019 Kame's Hope 3em $51.00 $13.50
017 Dexian 1em $81.00 $21.00
011 Red Hannigan Scratched Scratched
012 Shirazamatazz Scratched Scratched

Just another 2 scratchings MyHatMyCoat - fingers crossed.

Do like Modem (14), as pointed out by Paddy, racing in peak form.

Harvey's sticking to Mapperholic (10), so that's my 2nd choice.

One of my favourites Tribula (4), to run a bold race.

For value I'm sticking with Kensyl Bay (18), who is now assured a start.

In the other Group race (WA Champion Fillies Stakes), I'm going for All Keyed Up (4), Belhari (3) & Detail (2). And for value..........wait for it fellas.....Super Women (15) what else! :smile: