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TheAvenger 31st May 2004 10:42 PM

Here it is, the final leg of the U.S. Triple Crown, the Belmont Stakes going at 1 1/2 mile on the dirt at Belmont, New York next Saturday, the 5th of June. Smarty Jones will win another $5 M bonus if he wins this one, and be the first to win all 3 Triple Crown races in 26 years.( Kentucky Derby, Preakness, Belmont) Here are the past performances odf the probable starters.
UPDATED> The actual field, posts and riders http://www.drf.com/tc/belmont/2004/pps/04belmont.pdf

I like the Smarty Jones/ Purge quinella.

Regards,

Glenn

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Mr ed 31st May 2004 11:17 PM

would love to see Smarty Jones win the triple crown after reading about he's fairytale story, and a win would almost certainly garauntee us of another great hollywood movie involving the sport of Kings. Glenn, do you know of a site i can watch the race or listen to the race live from.

Cheers ED

TheAvenger 1st June 2004 09:10 AM

You can sign up for a membership with you-bet.com and watch it there. Deposit no money, but they'll let you have 10 or so hours of video without a wager. Your computer will have to be on broadband(cable, DSL or satellite) to watch it, however.

Regards,

Glenn

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Mr ed 3rd June 2004 10:04 PM

Thanks Glenn, will do

Paddy 3rd June 2004 10:30 PM

Here's the official website of the Belmont Stakes - some good reads.

http://belmontstakes.nyra.com/belst...04/default.aspx

Paddy 3rd June 2004 10:39 PM

Was impressed with Rock Hard Ten in the Preakness although well beaten by Smarty.

Currently showing 8/1, with Smarty Jones odds-on.

Chuck 4th June 2004 04:51 PM

i like (in order)

PURGE
ROCK HARD TEN
SMARTY JONES

TheAvenger 5th June 2004 06:14 AM

I am going to play a triple with Smarty Jones keyed over Birdstone, Rock Hard Ten, Purge and Eddington.

Glenn

MartinFriedman 5th June 2004 11:31 PM

..
Tips for the Belmont Stakes, Saturday 5th June 2004,
from the Friedman Family (Martin, Carol, & Zev) in
Sydney, Australia.
.
#8 Eddington (Martin)
#5 Rock Hard Ten (Carol)
#9 Smarty Jones (Zev)
.
Cheers,
...

MyHatMyCoat 6th June 2004 02:08 AM

Can't believe how short Smarty is. Latest market has him 1/9!

1 Master David — 35
2 Purge — 26
3 Caiman — 70
4 Birdstone — 55
5 Rock Hard Ten — 15
6 Royal Assault — 43
7 Tap Dancer — 50
8 Eddington — 23
9 Smarty Jones — 1/9


topsy99 6th June 2004 07:38 AM

anything to report. have heard it is on at 7am and also 8am now 8.35am and heard nothing.
even website doesnt have time of race.

Paddy 6th June 2004 10:37 AM

Finishing order:
4 Birdstone
9 Smarty Jones
6 Royal Assault
8 Eddington
5 Rock Hard Ten
7 Tap Dancer
1 Master David
3 Caiman
2 Purge

4 Birdstone $74 WIN $14.00 PLACE $8.60 SHOW
9 Smarty Jones $3.30 PLACE $2.60 SHOW
6 Royal Assault $6.10 SHOW


Paddy 6th June 2004 11:14 AM

Smarty went down by 1len in the very smart time of 2:27.50 for the 2400M. In the end outstayed by the winner.
What a great drawcard he could be if they could get him to our shores. Cox Plate ?


Chrome Prince 6th June 2004 04:12 PM

Smarty Jones paid $3.30 the place when he was 1/9 favourite????

How did that work!

:eek:

sportznut 6th June 2004 04:26 PM

The dividends are based on $2 units in America, so $3.30 is like $1.65. Also 'Place' over there is only 1st or 2nd. The dividend for 'Show' (1st, 2nd or 3rd) was $2.60 or $1.30 for a $1 unit. Even so, that's still WAY more than a 1/9 shot should pay, so maybe he got out in the betting.

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Chuck 6th June 2004 07:08 PM

Quote:
i like (in order)
PURGE
ROCK HARD TEN
SMARTY JONES


i guess the only thing i got right was the fact that smarty didn't win...lol

Chrome Prince 6th June 2004 07:59 PM

Thanks for that Sportznut, had no idea they used $2.00 units.

As you say $1.30 the place is pretty good.

Can't wait til we get minimum return of $1.05 here in Victoria in a few months.

The only problem is, I forecast a reduction of the other runners to compensate.

sportznut 7th June 2004 09:45 AM

CP,

I just heard an american guy on the radio talking about this. I found it a bit hard to understand. The way he explained it, the fact that an outsider won the race actually increased the Place and Show dividend of Smarty Jones. I'm not sure if that's right or how it works. Maybe Glenn has some idea.

Anyway, he also said that the overwhelming majority of punters simply backed Smarty Jones to win and totally ignored Place and Show betting. Apparently it was the most win bets placed on one horse in American racing history.

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TheAvenger 7th June 2004 09:55 AM

I had a win bet on Birdstone, who paid $74.00 to win on a $2 bet. It was one of my saver bets, and it saved my cash! Sorry I didn't report earlier. In the parimutual system of wagering we have, yes, a longshot will increase the payouts on other horses, since so few people bet the long one.


Glenn

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