FRIDAY JUNE 18 AEST
St Kilda vs Hawthorn
Telstra Dome 7:40 PM AEST

SATURDAY JUNE 19 AEST
Geelong vs Brisbane Lions
Skilled Stadium 2:10 PM AEST

Richmond vs Carlton
Telstra Dome 7:10 PM AEST

Fremantle vs Port Adelaide
Subiaco Oval 5:40 PM AWST

SUNDAY JUNE 20 AEST
Kangaroos vs West Coast Eagles
Manuka Oval 1:10 PM AEST

Essendon vs Melbourne
MCG 2:10 PM AEST

Adelaide vs Western Bulldogs
AAMI Stadium 2:10 PM ACST

SATURDAY JUNE 26 AEST
Sydney Swans vs Collingwood
Telstra Stadium 7:20 PM AEST

Just looking ahead to the next round [R14] why would st kilda play port adelaide in tasmania, i know hawthorn plays a few there, but why the saints?

The St Kilda Football Club has been committed to promoting AFL in Tasmania for some time.

They have a rep in Tas to manage and coordinate the activities of the St Kilda Football Club in Tasmania.

They have a partnership with The Asthma Foundation of Tasmania.

They conduct a Community Camp in Tas on an annual basis.

They are involved in the Tasmania Community Club (AFL) Game Development Program.

etc etc

Thanks sports fan, wasn't sure, i am looking at the records of hawthorn 5/6 and the saints 1/2 at york park, maybe its lucky they are not playing this game there[i know the draw was done before the season started]interesting though?

St Kilda
Brisbane
Carlton
Fremantle
Kangaroos
Melbourne
Adelaide
Sydney

St Kilda
Geelong
Carlton
Port Adelaide
Kangaroos
Essendon
Adelaide
Collingwood

ST KILDA-
Theyve filled the bookies coffers for the last 2weeks.. no hat-trick here

LIONS
On the road but on a roll

RICHMOND
Carlton/Richmond ? Richmond/Carlton ? Heads /Tails? -- Heads
PORT
Port at the graveyard

KANGAROOS
The weather will be too cold for the Eagles in the ACT...and the Roos will be too hot

MELBOURNE
More coin tossing --Tails again

ADELAIDE
Only cos theyre at home and Ive picked em the last 2 weeks

SWANS
But not by much





[ This Message was edited by: Floydyboy on 2004-06-18 10:03 ]

How totally ridiculous that Collingwood and Sydney get an entire weekend to themselves.

Anyway, there are some really tough games to pick this round. My early ratings are like this:
St Kilda 129 Hawthorn 77
Geelong 100 Brisbane 114
Richmond 91 Carlton 95
Fremantle 98 Port Adel 104
Kangaroos 100 West Coast 90
Essendon 108 Melbourne 116
Adelaide 94 W.Bulldogs 84
Sydney 109 Collingwood 87

Surely St Kilda will bounce back this week?

Am strongly considering taking St.Kilda at 60+.And the $3.50 the premiership is value as well.

Sportznut,I strongly urge you to look at your penalty for Brisbane when they play away.20 points is much too harsh.
When you came up with Essendon as a selection,that was the reason.
At least when they travel to Victoria anyway.

Well, I've only penalised them 10 points this week because they have a good record at Geelong.

When it comes to penalties, I guess 20 points IS probably too much against the victorian teams, but I actually think 20 points may not be enough when they play in Perth. I am very comfortable betting against Brisbane when they go over there!

It's wierd. I'm a Brisbane Lions fan, but I'm always more pessimistic about their chances than non-lions fans.

[ This Message was edited by: sportznut on 2004-06-15 19:11 ]

You must have 2 heads to fit that much knowledge in.

i am thinking about a multi with pick your starts,looking specifically at brisbane-geelong and kangaroos-west coast
with brisbane and kangaroos both winning and giving start.
current starts are brisbane -21.5
and kangaroos -10.5
what does anyone think
cheers

can somebody please give an analysis and reason for prediction of these matches...

Richmond - Carlton
Essendon - Melbourne
Fremantle - Port

Thank you.

I was looking at......................... Saints Bris Roos and Port on the line with the given starts .....

Floydyboy,can"t come at port even though they
were impressive last week

My bets.

Hawthorn, +42.5, 1.92
Geelong, +20.5, 1.95
Richmond, 2.12
Fremantle, -3.5, 1.93
Essendon, 2.01
Adelaide, -11.5, 1.93

My system doesn't see value in the Kang-WC match. Hopefully more action will come on the roos and create value for the WC.

Are you saying that you're betting on Hawthorn to beat St Kilda? I see no logic in that, if you are.

Geelong has not copped too many hidings this year.
Scarlett will be all-Australian fullback this year for sure.
21 points,won't be easy.I suggest you reconsider this one.

The kangaroos are expecting to play finals footy this year.
Need a big win this week and I expect them to deliver in a shootout match.West Coast just won't kick a high enough score.

Primo,

Mr J isn't betting on Hawthorn outright. He's betting on them with 42.5 points start.

I understand now.

Also, I'm changing my prediction of Fremantle to Port Adelaide. Does anybody think Port will lose? They have a great record.

As you can see Primo by my bet of Fremantle -3.5, I think port will lose :wink:

Records aren't everything.

I see, but don't you think -3.5 is a bit close to call?

If fremantle can get going early they will be hard to beat, but their 1st half in recent games has been pedestrian, how could a team not score a single point in the 1st quarter? and that was against richmond!, if they dont start quicker port will have a training session, DESI whats going on with them.

The only two matches I'm unsure about are Fremantle-Port and Richmond-Carlton.

If Port and Carlton to win I think I will be in for a good week, as far as multi-betting is concerned.

Primo, if i HAD to pick in those 2 games i would go port and carlton

Primo, I have fremantle by a few more.

I feel pretty hard done by with st kilda vs hawthorn.

30 mins into the match hawthorn is leading something like 44-36, and then st kilda manages to put 90 points on the board vs 10 for hawthorn. Hawthorn must've been playing like schoolboys.

I really hope Fremantle loses, more people are predicting Port Adelaide but I have a feeling Fremantle can win which is not comforting.

[ This Message was edited by: primo on 2004-06-18 22:24 ]

The Hawks were actually leading 32-13 at one stage!!! Then the Saints just ran riot.

Last one to bed,first to rise.
Must be an afternoon nap there Sportznut.

Am I the only one to notice similarities between what St.Kilda done last night and what Brisbane done last week.
Bring on September.

THe only similarity was the winning margin, but thats where it ends , big difference in the opposition, hawthorn to essendon

signing off to watch the geelong- lions game:
lions are specials!! by 25 pts

cheers

Wish I was as confident about their chances.

Your wish is granted :smile:

Like Rex Hunt says Goldmember.
You can only catch the fish that are there.

The Saints are back.

Well, I backed Geelong with the points start and that was never really in doubt. This is a damn good Geelong team and I personally wasn't the least bit surprised by the result.

Gee Sportznut.
Your such a loyal Lions fans.Not.

What swayed it for you.Did you go back to the 20 point penalty for travelling ?

I explained it on another thread. Geelong were a selection for my home dog system and that's why I backed them, pure and simple. I did actually think they had a good chance today though.

Personally, I hardly ever back the Lions, and I don't consider that being disloyal or anything. Think about it. If you bet on your own team and they lose you're doubly disappointed. That's why I don't often back them.

Took them outright :smile:

I can't believe how unlucky I have been this week.

Well for the 2nd night in a row an AFL team I picked blows a solid early lead.

Fremantle kept me from going 4-1 today.

What is ironic is that if I included h2h for its normal strength, my system would've picked Port. I played down the h2h strength simply because it was so one-sided (and I don't believe h2h should have that amount of inluence on a pick). Ah well. Maybe tomorrow will go 5-1.