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Sportz 16th February 2005 10:10 PM

Football Punters Comp 2005
 
Welcome to the Football Punters Comp thread. Please feel free to join in.

The comp will run from Thursday, February 17 to Sunday October 2. The cutoff point to begin betting is the 31st of March. Anyone who hasn't made at least one bet before the 1st of April will unfortunately miss out. The bookmakers we will be using are:

IAS Bet

Sportingbet Australia

sportodds.com

You can use any of the bet types they offer on AFL, League or Union matches.

I'm sure there will be some things in the rules that not everyone agrees with. I'm sorry about that. Can't please everyone.

RULES
Starting bank: $500
Number Of Bets: Minimum of 50, Maximum of 200
Bet Sizes: $10, $20, $30, $40 or $50
Mult-bets: Maximum of 5 legs
No 'futures' betting allowed


A quick explanation. Everyone has a starting bank of $500. Obviously the object of the game is to build on that $500 so that you end up with the highest amount in the bank on Oct2. Everyone must make at least 50 bets during the comp to qualify and nobody is allowed to make more than 200 bets. To keep things as simple as possible, I've decided we can only use bet sizes of $10, $20, $30, $40 and $50. Also to keep things simple, I've put a limit of 5 legs on the multi-bets. Some may be disappointed with that, but 5 legs will still allow you to go for a good return without things getting out of hand. There is no 'futures' betting in this comp (unfortunately for me). By that I mean you can't place a bet now on who will win the Brownlow or the Premiership etc etc. You can only bet on events that are happening within the next 7 days.

Of course, it goes without saying that you must post your selections before the starting time of the match and certainly no editing of posts after starting time. When posting your selections, please set them out very clearly so everyone knows exactly what the bet is. Please state your opening balance, bet number, match, bet type, your selection, bet size, latest odds, possible winning amount and closing balance. Something like this:

Opening Balance $500
Bet number 1
St George vs Souths
St George to win
$40 @ $1.45 ($58.00)
Closing balance $460

I will keep a record and post an updated leaderboard after each weekend. Even so, could everyone try to make absolutely sure that you don't make any mistakes with your adding up etc.

Good luck! :)

Sportz 16th February 2005 10:15 PM

Week one

NRL Charity Shield
Saturday, 19 February
St George Illawarra Vs South Sydney 8:00pm

AFL Wizard Cup
Friday, 18 February
Collingwood v Richmond Telstra Dome 7:40pm
Fremantle v West Coast Subiaco 7:40pm
Saturday, 19 February
Western Bulldogs v Sydney Telstra Dome (Double-Header) 2:40pm
Hawthorn v St Kilda Telstra Dome (Double-Header) 6:10pm
Brisbane v Melbourne Cazaly Stadium 7:40pm
Sunday, 20 February
Kangaroos v Geelong Manuka Oval 2:40pm
Carlton v Essendon Telstra Dome 5:10pm
Adelaide v Port Adelaide AAMI Stadium 7:10pm

Sportz 16th February 2005 10:19 PM

Current odds for the Charity Shield:
St George Illawarra $1.45
South Sydney $2.60

Odds not up yet on the Wizard Cup.

Sportz 17th February 2005 11:43 AM

First head to head prices out for tomorrow night's AFL games:

Collingwood $1.90
Richmond $1.80

Fremantle $2.00
West Coast $1.75

rabbitz 17th February 2005 01:30 PM

What tab are you using
Can you roll your own starts and use in multis etc
Prices vary from tab to tab
Maybe we either all use the same tab or we stipulate which tab when placing bets.
Also can you cancel before the game if say someone has a late injury etc
Cheers

Sportz 17th February 2005 01:51 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by rabbitz
Also can you cancel before the game if say someone has a late injury etc
Cheers


How about we use the 30 minute editing cutoff point that is on posts? In other words you get just 30 minutes to edit your post changing or cancelling your bet. Any later than that, bad luck. After all, in the real world, if you put a bet on on Friday and one of the top players gets injured just before the game on Sunday, you can't cancel your bet can you?

Sportz 18th February 2005 09:51 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by rabbitz
What tab are you using
Can you roll your own starts and use in multis etc
Prices vary from tab to tab
Maybe we either all use the same tab or we stipulate which tab when placing bets.


Rabbitz, these are the bookies you can use: Sportingbet Australia, IAS bet, Sportodds
Yes, you can use any of the bet types they offer on AFL, League or Union.
Yes, you can have Multis, but there is a limit of 5 legs in your multis.
Yes, in your posts, please tell us which bookie you used for each bet.

thebookie 18th February 2005 10:54 AM

My bets
 
I'll have $50 HH on all of WBD, STK, Carl and Melb
and
$25 HH on all of Freo, Kang and Adel

Sportz 18th February 2005 11:19 AM

Bookie,

I'm sorry, but did you read the introductory post with all the rules? :o

Don't you want to check out the odds on the three sites and pick out the best odds for your selections? If I had to check out the odds for everybody's tips, it would be an enormous amount of work for me, so the idea is for you to check out the 3 bookies, find the best odds and post your selections here with those odds. Unfortunately, prices are only up on tonight's 2 games, so you can't bet on the other 6 games yet. If you can't come back on here later to post your bets in those other 6 games, then perhaps you can give them a miss this week. Also, you can only use the following bet sizes: $10, $20, $30, $40 & $50, so I'm sorry, no $25 bet please.

Here's an example of how I'd like you to set your posts out:

Opening Balance: $500
Bet 1: Head to Head (IAS)
Fremantle $30 @ $1.80 ($54.00)
Closing Balance: $470



We're not off to a good start. :(

thebookie 18th February 2005 11:37 AM

Sorry champ.

Can I make the $25's now $30?

And can I use the odds from Norm Short? He's up on all games. Or TAB Sportsbet?

Sportz 18th February 2005 11:44 AM

No, I'm very sorry. We're using just the 3 bookies - Sportingbet, IAS and Sportodds. Hopefully at least one of them should have their odds up on all games by tonight. Can you come back on over the weekend to post selections?

Sportz 18th February 2005 12:18 PM

So Bookie, can I put you down for this bet then?

Bet 1: Head to Head (IAS)
Fremantle $30 @ $1.80 ($54.00)
Closing Balance: $470

After that, the rest is up to you. Sportodds has prices up on a few more games now.

moeee 18th February 2005 12:21 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sportz
I will keep a record and post an updated leaderboard after each weekend. Even so, could everyone try to make absolutely sure that you don't make any mistakes with your adding up etc.

Good luck! :)


Sportz!

Would you like me to keep my eye out for irregularities?
Perhaps I could keep a backup record of a leaderboard!

moeee 18th February 2005 12:27 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sportz
We're not off to a good start. :(


Come on Sportz!
Be a sport.Let me hold your hand.I'm sure this thread will be the thread of all time.
Yes I think that if people wish to enter the comp. they need to follow the rules.I'm sure there are lots of punters out there who will monitor proceedings and use the tips placed as guidelines in their real punting.
So lets put a bit of effort in our selections boys!

moeee 18th February 2005 12:34 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sportz
Sportodds has prices up on a few more games now.


I think we should endorse the prices of the Forum operators advertised supporters only.(IAS,Sportingbet).
Not that Norm Short is bad.It makes it much easier for Sportznut,and helps the Ozmium group in their endeavours.
But for Multi bets,then Sportodds prices being the chosen ones.
Only because they offer the pick-your-own margins.

thebookie 18th February 2005 12:39 PM

OK

I want all those selections and I will put the prices up as they come. But, I definitely want all those picks. Cool?

Sportz 18th February 2005 12:43 PM

Yes Mo, after working it all out with someone from the forum, I think the 3 bookies we've chosen should cover all the betting opportunities we need.

Sportz 18th February 2005 12:49 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by thebookie
I want all those selections and I will put the prices up as they come. But, I definitely want all those picks. Cool?


Yep. Sure thing. :)

But could you please possibly try to set out your bets as I did in the Fremantle example about 6 posts ago?

rabbitz 18th February 2005 12:52 PM

Opening Balance $500
ST George Win $1.52(sportodds)
X
Collingwood $2.00(sportodds)
$3.04 X $50= $152.00
Closing Balance $450.00

Sportz 18th February 2005 12:58 PM

Well done Rabbitz. That's the way to do it. Now all they have to do is win. :)

thebookie 18th February 2005 03:00 PM

How's this?
 
Opening Bal $470

HH (Sportodds)
Bets
$50 WBD @ $1.62 Return $81
$50 STK @ $1.16 Return $58
$50 Melb @ $1.45 Return $72.50

Closing Bal $320

Carl, Kang and Adel to come

Sportz 18th February 2005 03:10 PM

Yeah, that's how you do it. Thanks. :)

Sportz 18th February 2005 03:20 PM

By the way guys, make sure you keep track of the number of bets you make. Remember, a minimum of 50 and a maximum of 200 for the comp.

Sportz 18th February 2005 06:35 PM

Opening balance $500

Bet 1 Multi (sportodds)
points: Collingwood +39.5 ($1.15)
points: Fremantle +39.5 ($1.12)
dozen: St George +12.5 ($1.12)
win: St Kilda ($1.16)
$30 @ $1.67 ($50.10)

Closing balance $470

Chuck 18th February 2005 08:39 PM

Opening Balance $500
Bet number 1
MULTI:
- Demons to WIN - $1.48
- Hawks to WIN - $5.00
$10 @ $7.40 ($74.00)
Closing balance $490

Sportz 18th February 2005 08:55 PM

That's with IAS Chuck. Please try to mention which bookie's odds you used. :)

Floydyboy 18th February 2005 09:06 PM

Lions...2.80
Eagles..2.12
Swans..2.35
Total...................13.94 x 20 units or dollars

spodds

Mofo 18th February 2005 09:27 PM

Opening balance $500

Bet 1 (sportodds)
win: West Coast Eagles $10@$2.12 ($21.20)

Closing balance $490

bl4dez 18th February 2005 10:01 PM

Opening balance $500
(sportodds)
swan @ $2.30
X
Brisbane @ $2.89
$50 @ $6.647 = $332.35

closing balance $450

like this?

moeee 18th February 2005 10:49 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mofo
Opening balance $500

Bet 1 (sportodds)
win: West Coast Eagles $10@$2.12 ($21.20)

Closing balance $490


Just testing the temperature of the water are we Mofo?
Or do you normally bet so conservatively?

Sportz 18th February 2005 10:51 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by bl4dez
like this?


Yep. :)

Sportz 18th February 2005 10:54 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by moeee
Just testing the temperature of the water are we Mofo?
Or do you normally bet so conservatively?


Never know. Could be a good tactic Mo. He might be the only one left with any money after a couple of months. ;)

Mofo 19th February 2005 12:37 AM

Opening balance $490

Bet 1 (sportodds)
win: West Coast Eagles $10@$2.12 ($21.20) WIN!!!

Closing balance $511.20

Quote:
Originally Posted by moeee
Just testing the temperature of the water are we Mofo?
Or do you normally bet so conservatively?


A little from column a) and a little from column b).

Sportz 19th February 2005 06:59 AM

Well done Mofo. Good start.

moeee 19th February 2005 09:55 AM

Opening Balance $500

Bet 1
Head to Head
Brisbane $20 @ $2.80 ($56)

Bet Number 2
Double
St.Kilda $1.16
Brisbane $2.80
$20 @ $3.25 ($65)

Bet Number 3
Multi
Bulldogs $1.55
St.Kilda $1.16
Brisbane $2.80
$20 @ $5 ($100)

Closing Balance $440

moeee 19th February 2005 10:30 AM

Opening Balance $440

Bet No 4
Double
Brisbane +18.5 ($1.90)
St.Kilda -33.5 ($1.90)
$30 @ $3.60 ($108)

Closing Balance $410

thebookie 19th February 2005 12:10 PM

Sunday
 
Opening Bal $320

HH (Sportodds)
Bets
$30 Carl @ $1.80 Return $54
$30 Kang @ $2.30 Return $69
$30 Adel @ $2.20 Return $66

Closing Bal $230

QuickFunBet 19th February 2005 12:47 PM

Footy Bets
 
Opening Balance: $500.00
Bet No 1 Sydney (Line +21.5) @ 1.90 X $10.00
Bet No 2 Hawthorn (Line +33.5) @ 1.90 X $20.00
Bet No 3 Brisbane (Line +18.5) @ 1.90 X $20.00
All with Sportodds
Total: $50.00
Closing Balance: $450.00

Thanks,
QFB

moeee 19th February 2005 07:43 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by thebookie
Opening Bal $320

HH (Sportodds)
Bets
$30 Carl @ $1.80 Return $54
$30 Kang @ $2.30 Return $69
$30 Adel @ $2.20 Return $66

Closing Bal $230


What odds TheBookie doesn't make it to the real football!

Sportz 19th February 2005 08:37 PM

Yeah, I'm going to take it really cautious for a start. I just went for a multi with what I thought were 'safe' results.... Collingwood and Fremantle with 39.5 points start, St Kilda to win and St George with 12.5 points start. Got the first 3 legs up although St Kilda worried me for a while, but it looks like St George are going to let me down. They're down by 18 with 8 minutes left!!! :(

Should have just backed Melbourne to beat Brisbane. Was pretty confident that would happen, but didn't have the guts to back my judgement.


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