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moeee 28th May 2005 04:10 PM

Brownlow,once a year betting
 
Shame I'm a puntaholic and can't get my bets on fast enough.
Would love to have the discipline required below.

Had enough of the ridiculous results and am now going for the Brownlow.
Sure does remind me of my venture into greyhound racing where your money was regurgitated and spat out with the mad rush to the first turn.
Riewoldt,Bruce,Judd and sympathies to Tiger Brown.
WHAT NEXT?
Do you take the huge $6 now,and sweat out on lady luck,or wait till the last few rounds and take Even money Ben Cousins.
The second one punters!
Been through the teams till now and most teams have shared responsibility regarding BOG.With the exception of Pavlich.
And Cousins.
Very little chance of suspension,and with his alertness of a rabbit,not much more of being pole-axed.
Not being a big punter means I need to put $600 on later or $100 now.
Or,with 12 rounds to go,perhaps put $50 on him every week until the final round.
Would do the first plan but don't think I have the balls to put such a wager on in the one bet.

Oaksnaf 28th May 2005 05:33 PM

One name

Luke Hodge

moeee 28th May 2005 11:10 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Oaksnaf
One name

Luke Hodge

Yes good try.33 to 1 last time I looked.
Problem is that Hawthorn won't win enough games to get the 3 votes.

moeee 29th May 2005 10:23 AM

Jumped the gun a bit with my thoughts on Ben Cousins.
There is one big unit in the Eagles team named Dean Cox.
Was showing $17 and at the eachway collect of $10.50 is a better bet at the minute than straight out Cousins.Seems Juddy is doing a Crawford after his win last year.
Still have concerns as to how well Mark Ricciutto performed last year,considering how few games Adelaide actually won.That situation gives Oaksnaks tip of Luke Hodge a real top show.

Me money stays in me pocket for at least another 6 weeks or so.
Still think an even money winner is better than a 10 to 1 loser.
Mathematically it can be wrong,but financially,it comes out in front every time.

Oaksnaf 29th May 2005 12:25 PM

Well if you look at the past few winners all have been involved in the ruck plays and centre clearences. Going on this trend Ben Cousins stands out among the rest, but i just feel with a potent midfield like Eagles valuable points will be stolen off him during the rounds of the likes of Cox, Judd, Fletcher.

Same goes for Hodge, with the likes of Mitchell, Crawf, Spider, Bateman.

Whilst im willing to back Hodge who is just a gun and has such an influence on how we peform im having a sideways look at Shannon Grant. Ill be watching him very closely.

But on friday night my other tip went out, Brownie. Such a tradegy and could have won the brownlow.

moeee 29th May 2005 04:58 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Oaksnaf
But on friday night my other tip went out, Brownie. Such a tradegy and could have won the brownlow.

Could of?.Would of!
No dangers to Hodge at Hawthorn.
Be 3's on to win the tally for the Hawks.
And Shannon Grant played well for the first few,but didn't rate since.
Will win the Kangaroos tally.

moeee 6th June 2005 06:48 PM

If Riccuitto finishes in top 3,I'm a monkeys uncle.
$3.75 Cousins is challenged by Luke Hodge at $4.75 the place.
But possibly better stil is the 33 to 1 Dean Cox or possibly Cameron Bruce at 15 to 1.
No other chances at value odds.

mug punta 6th June 2005 07:53 PM

Hodge is definitely a handy bet at eachway odds. Good to see your goodself less surly. Must have had an empty!!

moeee 7th June 2005 12:33 PM

I won 600 bucks on round 2 and steadily lost it back plus another $200 ever since.
Not much to you,but multiply it by 20 and you will understand how I feel.

rabbitz 21st June 2005 03:40 PM

Now i have been looking into to this Brownlow caper
Chris Judd won in 2004 and was highest disposal winner in most rounds but one thing that did standout was his tackling
His stats were as follows:
KICKS -317
HANDBALLS -165
Marks -49
Tackles- 80
Goals-22/13

Now I thought whats all the fuss with Ben Cousins
His Stats up to RD 13
KICKS-205
HANDBALLS-117
Marks-71
Tackles-11
Goals-13/7

And finally one JONATHON BROWN
Rd 6-Rd 13
KICKS-84
HANDBALLS-62
Marks-67
Tackles-9
Goals 27/10

So what does all this prove
Looking at Chris Judds stats you could say that his activity around the rucks and being a team player swayed the judges(anyone know what the criteria is for points allocation)
Remember last year all the fuss about Warren Trdrea and Nick(dont hurt me) Riewoldt.They didnt poll very well

Centrebet has Cousins at $3.25/$1.56 favourite
Jonathon Brown has firmed from $251 to $8 since before he played in round 6
I like Cousins but $3.25 is pretty short with 9 weeks to go
Cheers

moeee 17th July 2005 04:06 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by rabbitz
I like Cousins but $3.25 is pretty short with 9 weeks to go
Cheers

And $2.60 is even shorter,yet I think after today,you won't even get that.
We will all say after the event that we knew he would win,but I wonder who will actually take the odds-on?
Looks like we will be looking for someone to run a place.
For all you Crow fans,beware one Simon Goodwin.
But don't forget the Eagles could easily win the Quinella with Dean Cox!

iamcool 17th July 2005 05:13 PM

Hows about St Kilda's Luke Ball as an each-way roughie?

Seems as if i hear and see more of him of recent, which may or may not be an indication of notice being garnered by umpires for on field performance.


moeee 18th July 2005 02:03 PM

What you are seein' an' hearin' is one courageous sonofabitch!
Dunno if that qualifies for a Brownlow,but he sure is great to watch.

iamcool 18th July 2005 07:10 PM

That he is and i am no Saints fan.

Just seems that he is receiving a little more attention from the media - granted not much of a measuring stick but then again the umpires must read the paper, watch the TV etc. And with the poor fella running around with all those bandages wrapped around his scone he must attract some added attention.


moeee 19th July 2005 08:01 PM

Had the impression the Brownlow votes were cast soon after the game.

Anyway.$1.80 Cousins is too short for me.
Won't even get that next week.
Looks like the $2.25 Pavlich for a place is just as safe a bet!

iamcool 2nd August 2005 07:14 PM

Cousins now $1.65, $1.55 on centre - ridiculous.

Betfair have him $1.75 nearly as bad! Can lay cousins $2.20 i think it was. Me thinks that could be the one - although judging by the way they run the games you just never know with these crazy umpires. Not a big cousins fan - me.

Havin a look at Lenny Hayes at around $10.00 third or fourth favourite depending. Just going on a point made by rabbitz earlier re: tackles. Scott West is also around the mark given the resurgency of the B'Dogs this year.

Any takers?

Sportz 2nd August 2005 08:20 PM

If you don't like Cousins, might be best to look at someone to finish in the top 3 or top 5 or get the most votes for each club etc etc. If Cousins gets even shorter, I wouldn't be surprised if some bookie operates a market with him taken out of the field.

moeee 4th August 2005 08:35 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by iamcool
Cousins now $1.65, $1.55 on centre - ridiculous.



Havin a look at Lenny Hayes at around $10.00 third or fourth favourite depending. Just going on a point made by rabbitz earlier re: tackles. Scott West is also around the mark given the resurgency of the B'Dogs this year.

Any takers?

Lenny Hayes had huge stats last year.
Hardly rated in the Brownlow.Suggest you go elsewhere.
And the Bulldogs have not won enough games,(YET),for Westy to get on the podium.

iamcool 7th August 2005 06:14 PM

Big stats for West at weekend, didn't watch the game though. Anyone see it?

My problem with Cousins is that he has to compete with Kerr, Judd and Fletcher for votes in the midfield alone - tough - even with Judd ineligible, won't stop him getting votes.

Goodwin could very well be an outside e/w chance @ $26 Betfair. Impressive performances this year for successful Crows - BOG against Demons.

moeee 9th August 2005 08:26 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by iamcool
Big stats for West at weekend, didn't watch the game though. Anyone see it?

My problem with Cousins is that he has to compete with Kerr, Judd and Fletcher for votes in the midfield alone - tough - even with Judd ineligible, won't stop him getting votes.

Goodwin could very well be an outside e/w chance @ $26 Betfair. Impressive performances this year for successful Crows - BOG against Demons.

I suggest that Scott West won't poll a vote for that game.
Write it down in your diary and come and abuse me if he does.

If Cousins gets a single vote for every round,that will be 22 points.Probably enough to bring home the bacon!

moeee 2nd September 2005 05:58 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by moeee
Had enough of the ridiculous results and am now going for the Brownlow.
Sure does remind me of my venture into greyhound racing where your money was regurgitated and spat out with the mad rush to the first turn.
Riewoldt,Bruce,Judd and sympathies to Tiger Brown.
WHAT NEXT?
Do you take the huge $6 now,and sweat out on lady luck,or wait till the last few rounds and take Even money Ben Cousins.
The second one punters!
Been through the teams till now and most teams have shared responsibility regarding BOG.With the exception of Pavlich.
And Cousins.
Not being a big punter means I need to put $600 on later or $100 now.
Or,with 12 rounds to go,perhaps put $50 on him every week until the final round.
Would do the first plan but don't think I have the balls to put such a wager on in the one bet.


$2.10 boys!
Don't tell me later you forgot.

Aussie Battler 5th September 2005 01:31 PM

Cousins by plenty
 
Just reading through the interesting material about the brownlow, putting my head on the block here, but heard from a close friend in Melbourne, that there was a rumour going around that cousins was up by 8 votes up with 2 games to go,

Not asking any questions, but i know that the $2.50 i got was good enough to have abit on him.

Sportz 5th September 2005 02:05 PM

Those rumours are a lot of rubbish. That's just someone taking a guess that he COULD be 8 in front with 2 rounds to go.

I'm not saying that he won't be 8 in front with 2 rounds to go, but it won't be because of any 'inside info'. It'll just be because he was the best player.

mad 5th September 2005 02:54 PM

You Guys!

I'm gonna put my neck on the line also. Cousins will NOT win the brownlow.
Maybe it's just me, but can't see Cousins winning. That West Coast midfield is to competitive with the likes of Fletcher, Judd and Kerr. God bless him the man has a HUGE tank and can run like the wind all day, but i wouldn't rate him as the most skillful player going around. Saying that i am at a lose to name someone else to win!

However you never know what some of these umpires will do so i guess the best of luck to him.

moeee 8th September 2005 05:11 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sportz
Those rumours are a lot of rubbish. That's just someone taking a guess that he COULD be 8 in front with 2 rounds to go.

I'm not saying that he won't be 8 in front with 2 rounds to go, but it won't be because of any 'inside info'. It'll just be because he was the best player.

Dunno 'bout being the best player,but he sure as hell will poll real well.
Chris Judd is lengths better player.

moeee 8th September 2005 05:13 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by mad
You Guys!

I'm gonna put my neck on the line also. Cousins will NOT win the brownlow.
Saying that i am at a lose to name someone else to win!


You just hit the nail on the head you madman!
If not then who?

Tenacious Spirit 19th September 2005 08:30 AM

How does an eachway bet on the brownlow work? You get a place return if they finish top 3?

Thanks

Sportz 19th September 2005 08:57 AM

Yeah, I think so. Some of the bookies also have a top 5 bet this year.

the rostram 19th September 2005 12:22 PM

scott west
 
$4.10 scott west get on ?

moeee 19th September 2005 05:00 PM

If Scott West finishes in the top 3 you will never hear from me again.
For goodness sake.Bulldogs didn't even figure in the finals.

If you want value I now have value for you considering the last 3 rounds of the year.
Barry Hall at $14 is each way all day.
Benny Cousins is a tiny bit skinny,but I jumped in early.
Still should poll enough of a headstart tto be almost run down by big bad.
If you have to back a Bulldog player,try Lindsay Gilbaa.
Cheers all.

Sportz 19th September 2005 08:30 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by moeee
If Scott West finishes in the top 3 you will never hear from me again.


I think we'll hear from you again then. He's absolutely nowhere. And as for Cousins...

My bets are looking sick. What games were these umpires watching??? If it keeps going as it is now, I don't think I'll bet on the Brownlow again!!! :(

thefan 19th September 2005 10:04 PM

im thinking to myself where is scott west. I need cousins to win now to break even with the bookies.

Sportz 19th September 2005 10:13 PM

West got 32 possessions in one round and didn't get a vote. :(

It's looking like Edwards or Kerr might steal it from Cousins.

Sportz 19th September 2005 10:24 PM

Wow, Cousins held on. 20 votes must be the lowest tally for a while. West was unlucky. There were a couple of games there where he was expected to get 2 or 3 votes and he got none. Although the same can be said for Cousins too I think.

Anyway, I ended up doing okay with my bets after all, but it sure was damn close!!! Only dumb bet of the night was backing Pavlich for the top 5. Should have stuck to the midfielders for that bet.

thefan 19th September 2005 10:35 PM

this whole brownlow thing is definetly rigged..im staying outta this one next year...$5 profit and counting =(

mad 19th September 2005 10:39 PM

Chin up thefan,

$5 in your pocket is better than in someone elses i always say.

moeee 20th September 2005 07:44 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by moeee
If Scott West finishes in the top 3 you will never hear from me again.

Only jokin' aye
Obviously I was under some sort of chemical imbalance to my system when I made that statement.

Sportz 20th September 2005 08:15 AM

Well Mo, he was always going to finish pretty high up. And to think there was a couple of games where he was expected to get 2 or 3 votes and he got none!


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