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kiwiz 10th February 2018 07:55 AM

Oscietra scratched at the barrier,,Moonee Valley last night

Chrome Prince 11th February 2018 11:58 AM

Oscietra - after being fractious and rearing its starting stall, underwent a veterinary examination and was a late withdrawal on veterinary advice at 8.32pm and the filly must now gain further approval in a jump out prior to racing again.

Lord Greystoke 11th February 2018 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Chrome Prince
Oscietra - after being fractious and rearing its starting stall, underwent a veterinary examination and was a late withdrawal on veterinary advice at 8.32pm and the filly must now gain further approval in a jump out prior to racing again.


Possibly not a chip off the old block then or is it way too early to tell Chrome?

Cheers LG

grizzle 12th February 2018 07:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Chrome Prince
Oscietra - after being fractious and rearing its starting stall, underwent a veterinary examination and was a late withdrawal on veterinary advice at 8.32pm and the filly must now gain further approval in a jump out prior to racing again.

Oscietra suffered minor abrasions to her near hind leg in the incident

Chrome Prince 12th February 2018 08:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Lord Greystoke
Possibly not a chip off the old block then or is it way too early to tell Chrome?
Cheers LG


Nowhere near the old block (Black Caviar) I'm afraid LG.
Equine genetics just don't work that way.
They basically want a clone of Black Caviar, and they aren't going to get it.
Early on, it was reported the Oscietra was worth 5 million, but they weren't selling her. Surely they should have broken her in, trialled her secretly at Euroa and then put her up for sale. She doesn't even resemble BC according to the trainer and is built differently, the trainer was very surprised that she went around odds on at her first start.

However, they will probably get one good horse from Black Caviar, as they are using her as a breeding machine sadly. They won't get a clone as good as her though, they'll get possibly one good horse that will win one or two Group races, and that's the best they can hope for.

Without delving too deeply into equine genetics, it boils down to not how good the Sire or Dam is, you can spend a fortune trying to get a champion, but whether the build, stride, lungs and heart are passed down as dominant genes, and how dominant those genetics are for the combination of sire and dam.

Lord Greystoke 12th February 2018 07:44 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Chrome Prince
Nowhere near the old block (Black Caviar) I'm afraid LG.
Equine genetics just don't work that way.
They basically want a clone of Black Caviar, and they aren't going to get it.
Early on, it was reported the Oscietra was worth 5 million, but they weren't selling her. Surely they should have broken her in, trialled her secretly at Euroa and then put her up for sale. She doesn't even resemble BC according to the trainer and is built differently, the trainer was very surprised that she went around odds on at her first start.

However, they will probably get one good horse from Black Caviar, as they are using her as a breeding machine sadly. They won't get a clone as good as her though, they'll get possibly one good horse that will win one or two Group races, and that's the best they can hope for.

Without delving too deeply into equine genetics, it boils down to not how good the Sire or Dam is, you can spend a fortune trying to get a champion, but whether the build, stride, lungs and heart are passed down as dominant genes, and how dominant those genetics are for the combination of sire and dam.


Makes for interesting reading Chrome. Genetics side interests me and I get your point regards pot luck. I have two different coloured eyes and a personality type that is maybe 2 - 5% of the population so you can probably see where I am coming from here.

LG

Chrome Prince 13th February 2018 04:23 PM

Yes, LG, if you have brothers and sisters or children and grandchildren, I'll bet none of them have both different colour eyes and the same 2 to 5% personality type together. Not meaning to delve personally, it's just an example for arguments sake.

peanutz 24th February 2018 11:00 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Chrome Prince
Nowhere near the old block (Black Caviar) I'm afraid LG.
Equine genetics just don't work that way.
They basically want a clone of Black Caviar, and they aren't going to get it.

ditto makybe diva

kiwiz 4th July 2018 04:35 AM

Oscietra has been retired
Two wins from five starts
Her owners are hoping for far more success in the breeding barn

kiwiz 4th July 2018 04:45 AM

Oscietra half-brother Prince Of Caviar ran 4th on his debut late May
Was slow to begin & settled at the rear in a slowly run race
Still last when they turned the bend where he was also held up for a run
Once clear he rocketed home for fourth running the quickest last 200m of the race


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