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Sands 9th December 2016 10:40 AM

Black Caviar's daughter Oscietra
 
Black Caviar's daughter Oscietra has made an impressive first public appearance, leading all the way to win a jumpout at Flemington today

The two-year-old filly by Exceed And Excel is the first foal from the champion mare Black Caviar

Ridden by Black Caviar's regular jockey Luke Nolen in today's 800m hit-out, Oscietra began quickly to lead the five-horse heat and was never headed in a performance that pleased co-trainer David Hayes

Courtesy aap

grizzle 18th December 2016 09:19 PM

see the jump out

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BR-7cSKftMc

Sands 19th December 2016 04:02 PM

Not sure if she has been nominated but 25/1 in the early market, Golden Slipper

jake 22nd December 2016 08:31 AM

..another jump-out tomorrow

Sands 27th December 2016 09:48 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by jake
..another jump-out tomorrow

Won that jumpout

The Ocho 3rd January 2017 08:31 AM

LITTLE Caviar Oscietra has been unable to emulate her famous mum Black Caviar by failing to win first-up down the Flemington straight.

But trainer David Hayes has predicted Oscietra will find winning ways ahead despite finishing third on debut.

Chrome Prince 5th January 2017 04:43 AM

David Hayes hinted in an interview after her trials, that she has some ability, but not sure she's anywhere near BC's grade, yet punters sent her out a short priced favourite.
After the race, Mr Hayes didn't look that disappointed, just said maybe she went too hard early and would talk to the jockey.
Based on her trials, one would probably send her out favourite, but the chances of her winning Black type races is small.
As any breeder would know, champions inherit certain genes from their parents and grandparents. The genes combine and become dominant under certain circumstances.
The point is, she'll throw some handy foals, but the chances of any one of them being a champion, are probably 100/1.
Even full brothers and sisters to champions rarely are as good for the same reason. Case in point Octagonal sired so many horses, yet Lonhro was the only one to come close, still not as good.

Sands 10th January 2017 09:17 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by The Ocho
LITTLE Caviar Oscietra has been unable to emulate her famous mum Black Caviar by failing to win first-up down the Flemington straight.

But trainer David Hayes has predicted Oscietra will find winning ways ahead despite finishing third on debut.

Replay of the race

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fkB9CT-R-Vk

Sands 10th January 2017 10:34 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sands

The early form around the winner of the race, Limestone, has been excellent

kiwiz 26th February 2017 07:06 AM

Wise move for the trainer to spell Oscietra imo

kiwiz 5th March 2017 06:31 AM

Oscietra back from the paddock
Her return to the race track a few months off yet

kiwiz 7th April 2017 05:35 AM

Plan to race at the back-end of the season still on track

kiwiz 8th April 2017 07:04 AM

Finished 2nd in a jump-out at Flemington yesterday

kiwiz 14th April 2017 06:30 AM

Another jump-out,,Flemington yesterday,,ran 4th
Trainer David Hayes said to be a little disappointed

kiwiz 17th April 2017 06:36 AM

Will be sent to Lindsay Park for further education before racing again

Sands 20th April 2017 11:08 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by kiwiz
Another jump-out,,Flemington yesterday,,ran 4th
Trainer David Hayes said to be a little disappointed

Watched the replay, didn't finish too far behind the winner

kiwiz 20th April 2017 07:48 PM

Yep the run didn't look too bad but Hayes concerned she didn't really settle
Hence more education

Chrome Prince 1st May 2017 03:48 PM

And how much did they pay for her? ;)

kiwiz 9th May 2017 04:46 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Chrome Prince
And how much did they pay for her? ;)

Too much ;)

kiwiz 9th May 2017 04:49 AM

And two more to come
A colt by Sebring & a filly by Snitzel

kiwiz 15th May 2017 04:31 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by kiwiz
And two more to come
A colt by Sebring & a filly by Snitzel

The colt by Sebring has been named Prince of Caviar

TobinBronze 19th May 2017 10:42 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by kiwiz
The colt by Sebring has been named Prince of Caviar

Will be trained by Team Hawkes

TobinBronze 3rd June 2017 11:24 PM

Black Caviar is due to foal this year to Sebring's sire More Than Ready (USA)

Chrome Prince 4th July 2017 10:05 AM

Crikey, they're greedy trying to extract a foal every year.
My research indicates that when one uses a mare as a breeding machine, they don't have time to recover, they need at least one year off, as one prominent breeder agreed and does with great success. Otherwise the foals don't tend to get the full benefit of the vitamins, minerals, enzymes, and proper formation and conformation of highly crucial areas. If a mare doesn't have time to recover and rebuild herself (lets not forget she's lactating the whole time), this can lead to dead, slipped, or inferior foals.

PrinceJudea 11th July 2017 10:31 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by kiwiz
The colt by Sebring has been named Prince of Caviar

Already nominated for the 2018 $1.5 million Ladbrokes Blue Diamond Stakes.

Sands 4th August 2017 07:33 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by kiwiz
The colt by Sebring has been named Prince of Caviar


According to co-trainer Michael Hawkes, Prince of Caviar is progressing well

"He's been in the Rosehill stable to learn the system. He got to have a good look around and did everything right education wise. He's a lovely, well balanced colt."

JB1 9th August 2017 10:02 AM

Oscietra back in work

walkermac 11th August 2017 03:28 PM

Won Geelong Synthetic Race 3. Went quickly to the lead, got one length on the field at the turn then held them safely down the straight.

Next run on turf in the city. Perhaps in 3 weeks' time at Moonee Valley. Trainer Hayes confident that she'll be a black type winner.

I don't know much about conformation or strides, but I don't think it's a matter of timing or happenstance that she resumed on synthetic.

kiwiz 19th August 2017 05:35 AM

Oscietra has been nominated for both the Thousand Guineas & Caulfield Classic in October

Chrome Prince 27th August 2017 02:51 PM

Yes, but team Hayes nominate all their horses for everything, especially 2yo's, he says so himself.
He says that Catchy is as good as Miss Finland, good type of horse, but can't see it myself, he probably knows something about the horse which we haven't seen.

JB1 26th September 2017 11:36 PM

Flemington R4 tomorrow

Chrome Prince 3rd October 2017 09:21 AM

Ran 9th beaten 5.2 lengths.

kiwiz 9th October 2017 05:55 AM

Gone to the spelling paddock

Sands 22nd October 2017 10:00 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by kiwiz
The colt by Sebring has been named Prince of Caviar

Had an easy jumpout at Flemington on Friday
Beaten three lengths, not put under any pressure

justinfront 23rd October 2017 11:45 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sands
Had an easy jumpout at Flemington on Friday
Beaten three lengths, not put under any pressure

Prince of Caviar
see the jump-out
https://www.racing.com/videos/2017-...-first-jump-out

Sands 4th November 2017 03:16 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by TobinBronze
Black Caviar is due to foal this year to Sebring's sire More Than Ready (USA)

Black Caviar a mum again. A filly by More Than Ready.

kiwiz 8th January 2018 05:27 AM

Has Black Caviar's third foal (filly) by Snitzel been named yet?

WAOS 22nd January 2018 12:57 AM

dont think so

In_retrospect 24th January 2018 10:21 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by kiwiz
Has Black Caviar's third foal (filly) by Snitzel been named yet?

Burnt Schnitzel! LOL

bagwon 5th February 2018 11:20 AM

has my vote :D

actually black caviar makes a good garnish with schnitzel


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