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18th June 2002 02:27 PM

Here's a system that may work:

Find a horse that is

1. Trained by top trainer
2. Placed last start
3. Carrying less than 53 kgs.
4. Priced at more than $5.00

Put your pebbles on it.

Equine Investor 18th June 2002 04:05 PM

Sounds o.k. to me!

Watch out Roadrunner...the Wylie Old Coyote is after you on his ACME Trojan Horse.

:grin:

18th June 2002 04:05 PM

Sounds ok.

mr magic 18th June 2002 04:16 PM

With limit weights at 53kg your system would require an apprentice jockey - am I right?

18th June 2002 04:32 PM

No, just eliminates the big ones.
Some senior jockeys can get down to 50-53kgs.
Munce, Seamer for instance.

Most apprentices seem to be good these days anyway.


[ This Message was edited by: Roadrunner on 2002-06-18 16:33 ]

mr magic 18th June 2002 07:26 PM

Sorry Roadrunner you missed my point.
When the limit weight is 53 only an apprentice can ride at less than 53.

18th June 2002 08:28 PM

What are you talking about?
I never mentioned minimum weights.

mr magic 18th June 2002 09:45 PM

The limit weight for nearly all races is 53kgs. Your system requires you to place bets on horses that carry UNDER 53kgs. Therefore your selections in nearly all races are carrying under the limit weight which of course means they must be ridden by apprentices claiming an allowance. If it were a high quality handicap then perhaps the limit would be less than 53 and a senior lightweight could ride but in your week in week out races, 52.5 or less means claiming apprentice.
I'm not having a go, just asking if that's how your idea works.




Big Orange 18th June 2002 09:45 PM

Your point was well made, Mr Magic.

I'm sure most of the experienced punters on this forum understood the reference to limit weight in the context intended.

Good on you for making the effort (twice) to enlighten.

19th June 2002 11:39 AM

Big Orange said:
"Your point was well made, Mr Magic"
Actually it wasn't - limit weight is not 53kgs in Vic or QLd.

He then stated:
"I'm sure most of the experienced punters on this forum understood the reference to limit weight in the context intended"
I hope they are aware that the limit weight in Vic and QLD is different to NSW.

Finally he said:
"Good on you for making the effort (twice) to enlighten"

How about I enlighten the readers about limit weights (See below)

(excluding steeples/hurdles)
8/8 races at Doomben on 25 May - weight limit was 52kgs or 52.5kgs.
8/8 races at Doomben on 15 June - as above
4/6 races at Sandown on 15 June - weight limit of 52kgs.
5/8 races at EF on 1st June - 50-52kgs
6/6 races at Flemington on 8 June - were 52-52.5kgs.
7/8 races at EF on 8 June were 52kgs or less.
5/7 races at MV on 25 May were 52kgs.
7/7 races at Sandown 1 June were 52-52.5kgs

Have I proved my point yet?...

Obviously in Sydney where the limit is 53kgs, an apprentice is needed but as you can see in the other states their are plenty of betting opportunities.

Raising the limit to 53kgs makes the fields more even I think - even though they all rise 1kg, a 1kg change at the 52kg level is a higher % than at the 58kg level.








[ This Message was edited by: Roadrunner on 2002-06-19 12:14 ]


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