dutching quinella
 

hI everyone, I was wondering if it were possible to Dutch quinellas. If so, how? Thanks

This is how i do it.
Dutching quinellas is the same as Dutching a single runner, the lower the odds the less profit/ return, the more over the book, the more cost involved to win a set amount back.

To get an appox return on two runners just add their odds together, its not exact but some times it works in your favour.

You might for example pick only even numbers in a dog race.
2,4,6,8
This is from the 28th June Gosford Dogs race 5.

Add up their odds.
You might like to win a set amount back; $100.00 or you might like to spread a $100.00 across the runners. You will need a dutching formula for all of this just do a search in the forum.
For this exercise we want to win $100.00 plus cover our cost.

Price per runner
2=$3
4=$16
6=$18
8=$7

So.....

Price per Quinella
2,4=$19
2,6=$21
2,8=$10
4,6=$34
4,8=$23
8,6=$25

As it rurned out 4,2 won,paid $32.5 on QTAB
The total cost to win $100.00 = $46
So each set of runners will cost this..

2,4=$7.5
2,6=$7
2,8=$14.5
4,6=$4.5
4,8=$6.5
8,6=$6

As you can see 4,2 won and paid ($32.5 * $7.5= $243.75) -$46 =$197.75
Loads of overs here.
Dont forget you could also use the lowest paying pair as a saver bet.
Really its endless but as with all things punting you gotta pick em and this is where i have discovered that nothing works unless you have a very large and endless bank and if i did i would'nt bother with all of this.

Thanks, good 4th. I get it now.

Dutching quinellas
 

If you have one of Scotts books...look at the formula there
Quinellas....100/(x(y+1)) + 100/(y(x+1) where x and y are the price of the horses...
so if two 4/1 shots.... 100/(4(4+1)) + 100/(4(4+1)) becomes
100/20+ 100/20 equals 10
works the same for exactas....say 6/4 and 10....
100/1.5(10+1) =100/16.5 say 6....
100/10(1.5+1) = 100/25 is 4....
If you are interested I have a chart on the prices which obviates the need for all the mathematics..

Dimboola

I made a little spreadsheet that does the calculations for you. You just enter the selections and prices, it will return the stake and expected return amounts.

I was prompted to make it after reading this thread yesterday. It took me 10 hours and the missus was not impressed.

It's yours if you want it. If enough people show an interest I will post it here on the forum.

Regards
Zlotti

Zlotti,
I would love to see the spread sheet,i think after all the time you spent working on it it deserves to be shown.
Lets keep these ideas rolling in, who knows it might trigger something.

Quinella Dutching Attempt
 

As you said, just adding the two prices together isn't the best but it works for what we need to do.

If anyone changes this for the better, please post it back so we can all benefit from it.

Regards

Zlotti

PS. No smart ass remarks about the amount of hours it took to get it right either!

dutching quinellas
 

This all seems a bit complicated. What I generally do is say ... "look sweetheart, you pay for your quinellas and I'll pay for mine - ok?"

Regards,
Wun
(with apologies)

I'm new here and was wondering if the spreadsheet could be updated to inclue 7 horses as I regularly get the quinella with 7 horses, but only on 2 or 3 races.


Mad Gambler

Would that be in an 8 runner race leaving the favourite out?

I could do it but the market probably won't be conducive to it. I head off back to work for a month on Sunday but I will try to have a go before then. It should only take 26.5 hours at my current work rate.