What to measure ?
 

Hi,

I know this has probably been posted before but I couldn't find anything in the previous threads..

What are the things you should record and have a system look at :

For example I know you should at least record

Date
Track Name
Track Condition
Race Length
Number of starters
Horse Name
Horse Age
Horse WIN Dividend
Horse Place Dividend
Total horse races
Total horse wins
Total horse seconds
Total horse Thirds
Days Since last run
Course Horse races
Course Horse wins
Course horse seconds
Course horse Thirds
Distance Horse races
Distance Horse wins
Distance horse seconds
Distance horse Thirds
Weather
Trainer Name
Jockey Name
Jockey Wins
Jockey Rides Total
Jockey Course Wins
Jockey Course Places
Jockey Course Total
Jockey Distance Wins
Jockey Distance Places
Jockey Distance Total
Last Start Result
Second Last Start Result
Third Last Start Result
Length Finished behind winner
Avg Length finished behind winner

Which of these are more important ? What other things should I record (and where can I get them )?

Thanks for any help provided.

What position it finished :-)

Maybe estimated lengths lost due to being blocked for a run, or whatever.

You missed this one

The next winner

Regards Beton

wesmip1,
Are you really serious about all those stats, you would never get to put a bet on.
Haven't you ever heard of the K.I.S.S. method.

darkydog2002
 

Backmarker or races on the pace /good early speed in the majority of their races.

Everything and more available in the WIZARD every Friday.

Cheers.
darky.

wesmip1
 

very indepth records, like kenchar says you wouldnt have time to bet,
you could use last five or ten runs, 6572654112 eg and a touch of late mail, if i looks ok in the ring and the odds are on YOUR side, bet on it.
Ive looked at lot of races and can often think that my nag is unbeatable, ie THE top trainer, THE top jockey, THE best Barrier (which i believe there isnt) THE best recent form etc, do i bet on it, well it depends on what my gut says,
Cheers dingo

WESMIP
 

With a quality racing paper like the Friday WIZARD most of this stuff your looking at is "at a glance" stuff.
Meaning its all there in front of you.
Concentrate on those horses that are in the top 6 WT/TIME ratings and also in the top 6 of any online bookmakers OPENING quote.

As OSULDJ( a top line proffessional punter who used to occasionally post here) once told me "learn to correctly read form and you cant go far wrong."

Cheers.
darky.

I agree...i could win as many bets with 3 bits of form as i could with 10...using lots of form just confuses things....a horse will be up and down on different bits of form and if it is the best at all bits of form it will be a crappy price

DATE
TRACK
RACE
TAB
FORM
HORSE
BARRIER
WEIGHT
CAREER PRIZEMONEY
AGE
COLOUR
SEX
TRAINER
CAREER STARTS
CAREER WINS
CAREER 2NDS
CAREER 3RDS
DISTANCE STARTS
DISTANCE WINS
DISTANCE 2NDS
DISTANCE 3RDS
TRACK STARTS
TRACK WINS
TRACK 2NDS
TRACK 3RDS
FAST STARTS
FAST WINS
FAST 2NDS
FAST 3RDS
GOOD STARTS
GOOD WINS
GOOD 2NDS
GOOD 3RDS
DEAD STARTS
DEAD WINS
DEAD 2NDS
DEAD 3RDS
SLOW STARTS
SLOW WINS
SLOW 2NDS
SLOW 3RDS
HEAVY STARTS
HEAVY WINS
HEAVY 2NDS
HEAVY 3RDS
FIRST UP STARTS
FIRST UP WINS
FIRST UP 2NDS
FIRST UP 3RDS
DAYS BREAK
RUNS SINCE SPELL
DISTANCE VARIATION
WEIGHT VARIATION
API
API RANK
API RATIO
WEIGHT RATIO
CAREER PRIZEMONEY RANK
CAREER PRIZEMONEY RATIO
CAREER WIN PERCENTAGE
CAREER PLACE PERCENTAGE
DISTANCE WIN PERCENTAGE
DISTANCE PLACE PERCENTAGE
TRACK WIN PERCENTAGE
TRACK PLACE PERCENTAGE
FAST WIN PERCENTAGE
FAST PLACE PERCENTAGE
GOOD WIN PERCENTAGE
GOOD PLACE PERCENTAGE
DEAD WIN PERCENTAGE
DEAD PLACE PERCENTAGE
SLOW WIN PERCENTAGE
SLOW PLACE PERCENTAGE
HEAVY WIN PERCENTAGE
HEAVY PLACE PERCENTAGE
FIRST UP WIN PERCENTAGE
FIRST UP PLACE PERCENTAGE
PWLTS
PWLTS RANK
PWLTS RATIO
GOING
JOCKEY
CLOSING PRICE
WIN
PLACE
CLOSING PRICE RANK
RUNNERS
RACE NAME
RACE DISTANCE
RACE CLASS
RACE PRIZEMONEY
AGE RESTRICTION
SEX RESTRICTION
APPRENTICE CLAIM
HANDICAPPING
WEIGHT LIMIT
LAST RUN PLACING
LAST RUN STARTERS
LAST RUN MARGIN
LAST RUN DATE
LAST RUN VENUE
LAST RUN PRIZEMONEY
LAST RUN PRIZEMONEY WON
LAST RUN EVENT
LAST RUN CLASS
LAST RUN AGE
LAST RUN REST
LAST RUN GOING
LAST RUN DISTANCE
LAST RUN TIME
LAST RUN LAST 600m
LAST RUN SP
LAST RUN WGT
LAST RUN ALL
LAST RUN LIMIT
LAST RUN JOCKEY
LAST RUN BP
LAST RUN 800m
LAST RUN 400m
LAST RUN WINNER
2ND LAST RUN PLACING
2ND LAST RUN STARTERS
2ND LAST RUN MARGIN
2ND LAST RUN DATE
2ND LAST RUN VENUE
2ND LAST RUN PRIZEMONEY
2ND LAST RUN PRIZEMONEY WON
2ND LAST RUN EVENT
2ND LAST RUN CLASS
2ND LAST RUN AGE
2ND LAST RUN REST
2ND LAST RUN GOING
2ND LAST RUN DISTANCE
2ND LAST RUN TIME
2ND LAST RUN LAST 600m
2ND LAST RUN SP
2ND LAST RUN WGT
2ND LAST RUN ALL
2ND LAST RUN LIMIT
2ND LAST RUN JOCKEY
2ND LAST RUN BP
2ND LAST RUN 800m
2ND LAST RUN 400m
2ND LAST RUN WINNER
3RD LAST RUN PLACING
3RD LAST RUN STARTERS
3RD LAST RUN MARGIN
3RD LAST RUN DATE
3RD LAST RUN VENUE
3RD LAST RUN PRIZEMONEY
3RD LAST RUN PRIZEMONEY WON
3RD LAST RUN EVENT
3RD LAST RUN CLASS
3RD LAST RUN AGE
3RD LAST RUN REST
3RD LAST RUN GOING
3RD LAST RUN DISTANCE
3RD LAST RUN TIME
3RD LAST RUN LAST 600m
3RD LAST RUN SP
3RD LAST RUN WGT
3RD LAST RUN ALL
3RD LAST RUN LIMIT
3RD LAST RUN JOCKEY
3RD LAST RUN BP
3RD LAST RUN 800m
3RD LAST RUN 400m
3RD LAST RUN WINNER
4TH LAST RUN PLACING
4TH LAST RUN STARTERS
4TH LAST RUN MARGIN
4TH LAST RUN DATE
4TH LAST RUN VENUE
4TH LAST RUN PRIZEMONEY
4TH LAST RUN PRIZEMONEY WON
4TH LAST RUN EVENT
4TH LAST RUN CLASS
4TH LAST RUN AGE
4TH LAST RUN REST
4TH LAST RUN GOING
4TH LAST RUN DISTANCE
4TH LAST RUN TIME
4TH LAST RUN LAST 600m
4TH LAST RUN SP
4TH LAST RUN WGT
4TH LAST RUN ALL
4TH LAST RUN LIMIT
4TH LAST RUN JOCKEY
4TH LAST RUN BP
4TH LAST RUN 800m
4TH LAST RUN 400m
4TH LAST RUN WINNER
PRIZEMONEY VARIATION
DAYS2
DAYS3
DAYS4
LAST RUN METRO TRACK
SAME TRACK
STATE
PWLS RANK
CAREER WIN PERCENTAGE RANK
CAREER PLACE PERCENTAGE RANK
DISTANCE WIN PERCENTAGE RANK
DISTANCE PLACE PERCENTAGE RANK
TRACK WIN PERCENTAGE RANK
TRACK PLACE PERCENTAGE RANK
FIRST UP WIN PERCENTAGE RANK
FIRST UP PLACE PERCENTAGE RANK

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Winners.
Win & Place Strike Rates
Win & Place returns based on 1 unit bet on each selection.
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Win & Place Profit On Turnover.
Win & Place Average Dividends.
Win & Place Minimum Dividends.
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Shaun, And probably not run a hole.

C.P. You forget whether to check if it has a dump before the race, because if it does all the weight ratings would have to be done again.