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go4it 29th August 2006 09:47 AM

System Help
 
Could one of you guys with an extensive data base test this for me if you have the time please.I have been toying with it for a short time only and it has had it's good days and bad days.I am just interested as to how it may or may not stand up long term,and maybe past results may shed some light.

Rule 1
Must have won at one of it's last two starts(this prep)
Rule 2
If the last start was not a win,must have finished within 4 lenghts of the winner
Rule 3
Must have a "c" next to it
Rule 4
Must have had minimum of 10 career starts
Rule 5
Must have minimum win s/r of 20%
Rule 6
Must have minimum place s/r of 40%
That's it.
cheers if anyone can help.

wesmip1 29th August 2006 04:40 PM

Got4it,

I did a quick run with my database and got the following :

Selections : 1220
Win $ : 1033.00
Place $ :1152.50

Sorry but looks like a loser over the longer term.

Add filter of Unitab rating of 100

Selections : 405
Win $ : 439.00 ( 8% POT )
Place $ :397.30

Good Luck.

go4it 29th August 2006 05:39 PM

Thanks for your time Wes

If I do a bit of"tweaking" could I possibly impose on you to run it thru again?

cheers,and thanks again

wesmip1 29th August 2006 07:20 PM

I'll do my best to test anything you propose on here.

go4it 30th August 2006 09:23 AM

Wesmip 1,

Revised rules.

1. Must have won 1 of last 2 starts

2. If not last start winner must have finished within 3 lengths of winner

3. Must have a "C" next to it's name

4. Must have at least 10 career starts

5. Minimum win s/r 25%

6. Minimum place s/r 40%

7. Distance range 1200/1600 only

8. Must be on the first 5 lines of betting prepost

9. Weight variance from last start no more than 2kgs either way

10. In top 3 Unitab ratings

Hope that is not too many rules ,if it's a hassel,don't worry about it,I'll test it manually.

cheers mate

lomaca 30th August 2006 01:48 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by go4it
Wesmip 1,
1. Must have won 1 of last 2 starts

2. If not last start winner must have finished within 3 lengths of winner

3. Must have a "C" next to it's name

4. Must have at least 10 career starts

5. Minimum win s/r 25%

6. Minimum place s/r 40%

7. Distance range 1200/1600 only

8. Must be on the first 5 lines of betting prepost

9. Weight variance from last start no more than 2kgs either way

10. In top 3 Unitab ratings

Hope that is not too many rules ,if it's a hassel,don't worry about it,I'll test it manually.

cheers mate


Hi!
I would not bother testing it the way it is. With rules like this you are bound to pick only shortish priced horses, and even with a decent strikerate, the odds will be against you.

If you reduced the win and place percentage and leave the rest, you would have a much better chance, lower strikerate for sure, but better odds. Distance does not matter a great deal.
Good luck

pearcy 30th August 2006 02:38 PM

System
 
Hi what would be your best system that you have tried over time and do you have a good staking plan? Thanks

wesmip1 30th August 2006 03:22 PM

got4it,


Its a losing system again. The only thing I couldn't do was

8. Must be on the first 5 lines of betting prepost

But it is showing a loss of of approx 11%.

Good Luck

go4it 30th August 2006 03:24 PM

Thanks for your time and effort Wesmip 1.

Back to the drawing board I guess.

cheers,and thanks again

wesmip1 30th August 2006 03:32 PM

pearcy, Go4it,

I have lots of systems I have developed over time and some work and some dont.

The best advice I can give is ...

Pick something that is deemed as bad by the general public. A classic example is outide barriers, or low weight , or excessive weight, or an apprentice jockey, more than 5 lengths last start, etc.

This will get you the odds. Then work out ways to make the strike rate better. It is the only tried and tested method I have come up with for developing profitable systems.

Good Luck.


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