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syllabus23 24th June 2007 11:23 AM

longshot favourites
 
Can anyone help me with the success rate for "longshot" ie. $3.70> favourites.
I'm pretty sure it's in the archives but I cant find it.

Chrome Prince 24th June 2007 12:43 PM

Syllabus23,

Greater than $3.70 and favourite...

19.75% win strike rate
15.15% Loss on turnover at TAB prices.

syllabus23 24th June 2007 12:48 PM

Thanks Chrome,,,appreciate that.

wesmip1 24th June 2007 01:12 PM

Syllabus, Chrome,

My figures are :

20.50% strike rate
15.6% loss of turnover

Very similar figures ... The exact figure will alter slightly depending on the data you have to use.

Good Luck.

partypooper 24th June 2007 01:23 PM

Amazing that the LOT is almost exactly the TAB take out, which means in essence that it should break even, so; as a starting point (looking for prices) it probably has something.

Chrome/ Wes, as a matter of interest how do those stats stack up against Favs in general, it would be pretty close isn't it?

syllabus23 3rd July 2007 08:56 AM

Hmmm Chrome,Wesmip,,,can you make a case for betting longshot favourites each way,when the place dividend is $1-50> ????

What I'm asking is, does the loss minimising bet when the favourite runs 2nd or 3rd significantly improve the result of overall longshot winners ????

I'm not sure if your data bases extend this far.

I make some decent pocketmoney from betting longshot favourites each way,but I try to be selective.Stay away from tight markets,avoid races with a few first time starters,all the usual stuff......

But I have wondered what the overall result looks like.

Cheers,,, Bill.

wesmip1 3rd July 2007 03:18 PM

Syllabus,

using unitab figures
Place >= $1.50
WinPirce >=$3.70

Selections :5592
Win $ = Loss of 16%
Place $ = Loss of 12%

All Favs where place has >= $1.50

Selections :15663
Win $ = Loss of 16%
Place $ = Loss of 6%

Favs where place has >= $1.50 and Win <= $3.50

Selections :8521
Win $ = Loss of 16%
Place $ = Loss of 2%

Hope that helps... I have posted on this before ... Look for place at least 60% of Win price and you should come out in front.

syllabus23 4th July 2007 07:22 AM

Thanks Wes,,,


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