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pengo 11th December 2007 02:03 PM

Question about TheTote.com.au form page on horses
 
Hey guys

Just wondering if someone can explain to me how to understand the "Rtng" (rating?) column for a horses form. Basically on thetote.com.au website when you click on a horse a window is displayed showing you its various stats.

What does the "Rtng" column refer to and what is a good value for that column? Like if a horses has a "rtng" value of over 400 is it better than a horse with 300 or is it the other way around? Also some horses end up with negative values..

If anyone can explain it to this newbie that would be great :)

Thanks

Sportz 11th December 2007 04:02 PM

The higher the better.

Although they're not directly related to weight ratings you can actually use them that way. Simply put a decimal point in there so that the 400 becomes 40.0, 575 becomes 57.5, 640 becomes 64.0 etc etc. That will give you a pretty good guide about the relative strengths of the horses.

I think the ratings are based on lengths beaten. I can't remember seeing a negative rating, but I've seen some very low ones and it simply means that the horse had a real shocker that day and was beaten a long way. If a horse has one rating which is much lower than all the rest, it's probably best to just ignore that rating.

suds 11th December 2007 04:56 PM

tried their input on & off a few times over time but not much success overall...guess its the way you apply...

pengo 11th December 2007 05:52 PM

Ok after reviewing the races across the states today, if you were to put a PLACE bet on a horse with the highest rating over 51 (e.g. it lists as 519 in RTNG column so 51.9) you would have made money today.

Will put in some tips for caulfield tomorrow to see how successful this is.

Also will need to look further in how many times such a highly rated horse has won rather than placed. To see if it would be worthwhile to put on a bet each way.

King Cugat 11th December 2007 06:54 PM

Pengo


Good onya, ill watch with interest re:Caulfied. Keep in mind every fav at the 2 eastern state meetings today placed so it may not be a good day to count as far as average run of the mill days go.

pengo 12th December 2007 10:49 AM

Caulfield 12/12
Race 2, 4 - Attrition
Race 3, 5 - Red Riveria
Race 4, 11- Chinamora
Race 5, 6 - Jedburgh
Race 6, 1 - Gazella
Race 7, 2 - Pinsemtoit

Above horses to place top 3.

I have my doubts, as there are a lot of horses today with ratings of over 500 (50.0).

Might have to stick to country races, as usually there is a reasonable gap between the highest rated horse and the rest of the field. For example there would be a horse rated over 51 and the next highest horse would be in the 40's.

We will see!

pengo 12th December 2007 05:04 PM

Caulfield 12/12
Race 2, 4 - Attrition, PAID
Race 3, 5 - Red Riveria, DNP
Race 4, 11- Chinamora, PAID
Race 5, 6 - Jedburgh, DNP
Race 6, 1 - Gazella, DNP
Race 7, 2 - Pinsemtoit, DNP

2 / 6 Paid.

Also did Mackay:


Race 3: 4, PAID
Race 6: 7, PAID
Race 8: 4, Has not raced.

pengo 12th December 2007 05:58 PM

Caulfield 12/12
Race 2, 4 - Attrition, PAID
Race 3, 5 - Red Riveria, DNP
Race 4, 11- Chinamora, PAID
Race 5, 6 - Jedburgh, DNP
Race 6, 1 - Gazella, DNP
Race 7, 2 - Pinsemtoit, DNP

2 / 6 Paid.

Also did Mackay:


Race 3: 4, PAID
Race 6: 7, PAID
Race 8: 4, PAID.
3/3 PAID.

Overall 5/9 PAID.

I will try E/W betting tomorrow.

Sportz 12th December 2007 10:27 PM

Here's an idea. For place or each-way betting, perhaps you could try concentrating more on horses down in the weights a bit. Maybe ignore any races where the top rater has more than 56kgs.

If you'd done that on those 9 races today, you'd have had 3 placings from 4 runners, and 2 of them were winners. Just a thought.

westman 13th December 2007 10:15 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sportz
The higher the better.

Although they're not directly related to weight ratings you can actually use them that way. Simply put a decimal point in there so that the 400 becomes 40.0, 575 becomes 57.5, 640 becomes 64.0 etc etc. That will give you a pretty good guide about the relative strengths of the horses.

I think the ratings are based on lengths beaten. I can't remember seeing a negative rating, but I've seen some very low ones and it simply means that the horse had a real shocker that day and was beaten a long way. If a horse has one rating which is much lower than all the rest, it's probably best to just ignore that rating.


Just lengths beaten, nothing else?


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