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tony soprano 4th January 2008 12:44 AM

Horse Ownership
 
Looking at getting back into a horse havent owned them since 2004. Looking at spending 3000-5000 for 10% anyone point me in the right direction. Thanks TS

crash 4th January 2008 07:06 AM

look up racehorse bloodstock agents.

King Cugat 4th January 2008 11:50 AM

tony try and stay away from syndications they will burn your pockets with the all inclusive in the prices (both buy in and training fees) i have done extensive research on them and can give you (off air) some classic converstaions ive had with some in regards to their pricing. You can also go onto the stallions dot com site and look up the results as to what they paid for them only months ago to what they are asking now. The most recent $11k weanling now asking $66 some 9 months later.

I can direct you via the racenet site and click onto the 'shares and syndications' towards the bottom. There you will find a fella who i have had contact with in regards to a nice syndicate hes putting together that involves breeding aswell as racing (you can join the lease if you really want to race) forget thread name now but you will know it when you see it. The major advantage here is that there is no one else lining their pockets and your in it to get returns aswell. I dont know the fella but i have had some correspondence with him for the last month or so and find him fairly good so far to chat with.

hope that helps

King Cugat 5th January 2008 12:46 PM

I should point out a few things to make that a bit fairer in comment.
That particular horse was bought earlier last year for $11k as a weanling. It was then on sold for $30k to the syndicate company. They have followed the correct syndication requirements to come up with their price which includes agistment and breaking in etc to March 2008. It also comes with a 'valuation certificate" of $40k.

Now my point > I believe a horse's value is what someone has paid or is prepared to pay in an open environment. That open environment was an auction where the horse sold for $11k. << that to me is its true value. Now because you are paying for the horse right up to the following year you need to determine what its worth then as a yearling, broken in, agistment etc etc. Ive done this in the last few yrs myself with a foal. Lets first start with the horses value with no majour change in winning progeny as afar as the sale page would look. $11k > $25-$30k at the very best. If you add agistment at even the best of lodges you would pay around $25per day for 365 days = $10k if you wanna go further. thats now $35-$40k, add breaking in, insurance and travel and this horse wouldnt be worth more then $42,500. Again the asking price is $66,000. The training bills that include everything, well wheres the change if not everything was needed that month....there is none = more overs. At the end of a horses racing career you can almost afford another horse running for you if everything you pay was cost price only.


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