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Glenno 2nd August 2008 04:11 PM

System: "Winning Flat Sires"
 
Rules:

Rule 1: Identify the top three sires, in terms of races won by their progeny during the previous racing season. For example, if using the system in 2008/09 season, check the sire stats for races won during the 2007/08 season.
Rule 2: Identify the progeny of those sires running today.
Rule 3: Bet them all to win, unless there is more than one in the same race, in which case there is no bet for that particular race.

System applies to flat races only (not jumps).

The top three sires, in terms of races won by their progeny in 2007/08 were: Encosta de Lago, Commands and Scenic.


Staking:

5pts to win on each selection.

Logic:

Some sires are responsible for providing many winners whilst a large percentage produce very few or none, although it is true to say that many of them had very few runners.

Three sires were each responsible for 150 or more race successes during 2007/08 (Encosta de Lago 204, Commands 182 and Scenic 161). Individual strike rates for sires can be misleading because two or more progeny often compete against each other in the same race.

baco60 3rd August 2008 05:41 PM

Language
 
What kind of racing language is this?

the sundance kid 3rd August 2008 05:56 PM

Very interesting -

When you refer to the number of winners sired by these three sires do you include racing throughout Australia (country and provincial) and NZ or just metrop racing?

Glenno 5th August 2008 12:14 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by the sundance kid
Very interesting -

When you refer to the number of winners sired by these three sires do you include racing throughout Australia (country and provincial) and NZ or just metrop racing?

It includes racing throughout Australia only (metropolitan, country and provincial).

Glenno 5th August 2008 09:10 PM

2/8/2008

Caulfield race 4 #10 Utterly Fantastic (Encosta de Lago) 1st $49.00 $7.80
Caulfield race 6 #5 Commanding Hope (Commands) 1st $16.60 $3.40
Caulfield race 8 #16 Sea Eye Pea (Commands)
Rosehill race 3 #3 Don't Tell Ted (Scenic) 2nd $3.30
Rosehill race 5 #1 Commanding Victory (Commands)
Rosehill race 6 #2 Keen Commander (Commands)
Rosehill race 7 #7 Dothis Dothat (Commands)
Rosehill race 8 #13 Festus Hagen (Commands)
Doomben race 2 #13 Call to Order (Commands)
Morphettville race 3 #8 Frolicsome (Encosta de Lago)
Morphettville race 7 #13 She's Commanding (Commands)

the sundance kid 5th August 2008 09:42 PM

Thanks for that Glenno - I think Ill be looking more closely at sires from now on.
All we need to do now is prune the list down with a few rules?

Any suggestions?

Glenno 3rd August 2011 02:06 AM

System update: 2011/12 season
 
The top three in terms of winners for the 2010/11 season were Commands, Encosta De Lago and Lonhro. These three are to be follow for the whole of 2011/12 season for the purpose of the system.

thorns 3rd August 2011 05:50 AM

Interesting Glenno, how did it perform last season, any stats?

Glenno 4th August 2011 12:46 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by thorns
Interesting Glenno, how did it perform last season, any stats?

I have not recorded the results so far, but the qualifiers would have been those who sires were Commands, Redoute's Choice and Encosta de Lago.

Glenno 4th August 2011 12:50 AM

2/8/2011
Nowra race 7 Davone Princess (Commands) unplaced


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