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JoeF 23rd August 2008 06:23 PM

First 5 Lines
 
First 5 lines of Pre-post market for today

25 races/24 winners
The odd one out Sr5 h8 (6th line)

And yes Party if we throw in the PPM's we get the lot again!!

partypooper 23rd August 2008 11:55 PM

Bank Robber only 2 lengths away last run, not bad!

crash 24th August 2008 07:29 AM

125 bets for 24 winners. I wonder how that turned out, profit or loss?

peterpan 24th August 2008 10:51 AM

JoeF,

Just out of curiosity which prepost market are you using.

Mancunian 24th August 2008 10:59 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by crash
125 bets for 24 winners. I wonder how that turned out, profit or loss?
Crash, have a look at my post under Dutch betting..

cheers ........Mancunian

JoeF 24th August 2008 12:10 PM

Peterpan I use the Pre-post from the Friday Courier Mail. (QLD)
Although it wouldn't really matter as long as you stick with the one.

Crash, I see your point, but there is actually more than 125 selections as they take into account equal selections as well. for instance Mr5 there were 7 horses on the first 5 lines of betting.
This started out as an observation in another thread, but rather than hog it, I've started it's own.

Was originally posed as a good base for starting form study, ie: a set of ratings of a sort. It has a fantastic strike rate but would probably show a level stakes loss. Any thoughts on how to trim the final qualifiers would be nice.

I tend to use it as a filter to cut down on form study time, which it does quite admirably.

Party, that should have read Mr5 h8 OUR MONTAGUE as the odd one out. In fact a having a closer (sober?) look at it, reveals it was actually on the 5th line so 25/25, no need for PPM's this week. :-)

crash 24th August 2008 12:33 PM

I agree Joef. The first 5 betting lines can have a lot of horses on them. I've done the dutch betting trip on those lines several times in the past and it leads to the soup kitchen. However as an area to focus form study, they are great.

JoeF 24th August 2008 06:31 PM

From Sat, Eastern States only
253 runners/159 horses on FFL

25 Races/25 winners from FFL

159 qualifiers/25 Winners....Vee....94 non qualifiers/0 winners.

So in reality greater than 1/3 of the field can be culled with great accuracy and all for the price of a daily paper and 10 minutes with a pen.

Now, to just get the selections down to 2 or 3 a race and it's good-bye the ute and hello the Roller!!!!!!!!

Pauls123 24th August 2008 10:06 PM

Top 5 Favs
 
Hi all,

I was intrigued with this top 5 favourite plan that is being tossed around here So I decided to look at todays Taree meeting (sunday), and only used Taree just because I live in that area (mid north coast). But I varied your paper favs slightly. I used the IAS opening prices and then looked at the top 5 there, a couple of races there might have been 6 for obvious reasons.

I then deleted any horses that DID NOT run within the last 21 days. This picked the winner in 5 of the 8 races. Also using IAS Super Price one would have outlayed $31 (for 31 bets) and got back $38.11.

This reduced the 40 or so horses on an 8 event program down to 31, does anyone have another simple but powerful filter ? I can only imagine the success on this one program would not hold up all the time.

Any further thoughts.....!!

Regards
Paul

partypooper 25th August 2008 02:23 AM

G'day Pauls 123,

Honest I've been down this path inside and out and upside down and cannot get the plan to break even (over a long period) any which way. Now using Betfair in many a complicated way, may do it but it's beyond me!

I did converse with a bloke from SA who reckoned he'd cracked it using level stakes , and although he wouldn't reveal the Golden Goose, I managed to narrow things down as follows:

Handicaps only.
Top 6 in field (e.g. Tab Nos 1-6 if no scratchings)
Last run within 21 days
Finished within 3.5 lengths of winner last start.
Allotted weight within 3.5 k's of allotted weight last start (up or down, ignore all claims)

Never got around to doing a work out as I'm long hand, but maybe one of the boys with the gear can do it quick.


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