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Brendon 6th July 2009 07:03 AM

Punting and the Quality/Class of Horses.
 
The quality of horses in the Saturday metro races is higher than the mid week races nearly always. Yet a few have said you get more value from midweekers. But those same punters have canned the quality of horses going around in the Saturday metro meetings perhaps as a reason for a drop off in their strike rate at those meetings.

I'm certainly not accusing anyone of sour grapes. I think its real, and my strike rate has gone through the floor since the start of June. Still I'm wondering if its the drop in class in metro races, or maybe another reason that is making the bookies rich this time of year.

If a punter can pick winners at a mid week country race, why the sharp drop off in the strike rate in the winter at the always stronger metro race meetings?

crash 6th July 2009 07:26 AM

In metro meetings, as you say there is better class horses, but compared to country or mid-week metro meetings, there are more possible winners because there is more class.

In winter, it's hard to line-up the form from proven wet trackers and runners with no or little wet form yet [how do we know their not a duck?]. Also worth thinking about is the problems with the slower pace that wet tracks produce [it's bad enough as it is on dry tracks]. Horses get into far more trouble in slower races due to bunching up in a mob.
Syd. also produces some very small fields and they can be very hard to pick because they are often very tactical races.

My SR also goes down in winter.

Stix 6th July 2009 10:16 AM

Track condition has never made any (significant) difference to my S/Rate...... maybe 1-2%, but that's in my favour and not the otherway. Others really struggle when the tracks are wet and some don't bet at all.....I don't worry too much about wet tracks, dead tracks, good tracks...any will do me as long as my selection has met the criteria.

Brendon 6th July 2009 11:34 AM

crash,
I was going thru some vids on Sunday, and from the ones I looked at, you are on the ball with your comments. With the downpour late in the week in Melb, there may have been a few bad lanes that some jockeys discovered were there, too late.

I also think that trainers are more likely to keep their best and most reliable horses for the spring and autumn. "Reliable" being the operative word in this context. I don't expect all my picks to win, but I have been gobsmacked recently to find out they didn't get a mention in the steward's report, except for maybe something like: "jockey Damien Oliver was at a loss to explain the lack of..." Normally when I'm punting well most of my picks come in the top four, at least. A lot of horses this time of year seem to be hit or miss.

I can think back 10 years plus, and after a few wet weeks the picking was easier. Maybe there are just not enough wet days today to expose all the form.

stix,

its probably my money this month you are winning. Use it wisely. LOL

Stix 6th July 2009 03:28 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Brendon

stix,

its probably my money this month you are winning. Use it wisely. LOL
I'm not setting any records for June or the start of July...... :o ... but slightly infront.

crash 6th July 2009 03:34 PM

I agree about the hit and miss form Brendon and also the variability of alleys.

Crackone 6th July 2009 03:44 PM

I think the class is not there,
my system through up 137 horses to consider last June 08, this June 81. Even May 134 to 96 this year.

crash 6th July 2009 04:29 PM

The quality of horses has been going down for years. The breeding industry has a lot to answer for but I won't get into that story because I'd have to point a few fingers.

Brendon 7th July 2009 05:54 PM

The breeding industry breed a lot of fast 2 year olds.

crash 8th July 2009 07:08 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Brendon
The breeding industry breed a lot of fast 2 year olds.


And a heck of a lot of pet food too!


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