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Try Try Again 7th September 2010 02:08 PM

Neural Favourites
 
Based on the really good work Michaelg has been putting up, I looked at the 4 major meetings on Saturday (Flem, Rand, EFarm and Morph) and only consider the Neural Top Rated horse using Michaelg's criteria.

I used the following rules to tighten up the bets
  1. Race must have at least 8 starters
  2. Contender must have started 14 or 21 days ago
  3. Contender must have finished in first 5 last start
The results were:-

Flem 5 bets for one winner (No Evidence Needed $20.00)
Rand 3 bets for two winners (More Strawberries $4.20 and Theseo $3.30)
EFarm 5 bets for 2 winners (Cats Eyes $6.70 and General Purple $5.50)

These results are using the better of SP or Best Tote. If Luxbet's BOB was used the dividends would increase overall by a further $2.40

Obviously the results from one meeting does not give any real long term indication but I did find it interesting, especially since Michaelg's everyday approach is giving such good profits.

I'll be interested to see how it performs next weekend!

michaelg 7th September 2010 03:39 PM

Hi, Try.

Those are very impressive figures. Did you also look at those with 1 to 13 days since last start, and also Place results?

Do you intend testing it tomorrow at the 4 major states?

I'm going to record the 4 major states for Wed and Sat, but only those selections that have 140-plus points, and also must have the outright highest JA points.

I believe you omit Perth and Launceston from your daily method. I've checked W. Aust results for my method, and it's ugly - 1 winner from 12 selections for a loss of $9.50, and 7 placegetters for a loss of $1.60. I'm still going to continue with W.A, it might pick up. There have only been 3 Tassie selections so far, so I can't really say anything about it yet.

Good luck.

Try Try Again 7th September 2010 05:33 PM

Hi Michaelg,

Yes I looked at horses starting <14 days ago, there were 4 starters for 1 winner ($2.00 - a jumps race at Morphettville which had started 6 days ago). My theory is exactly 14 and 21 days ago suggests the horse started at a Metropolitan track. 7 days ago may not give the horse enough time to recover from its last run and >=28 days ago horse may have had a set back and may not be fit.

Using the criteria I set out the place bank would be +$4.30 (Win bank +$26.70).

I am going to look at any Metro races tomorrow (Canterbury, Eagle Farm and Sandown Lakeside) but I am not sure if my "Must have started 14 or 21 days ago" will apply.

I eliminated Belmont (and Ascot) and Hobart. I did not eliminate Launceston as I did not consider this to be the Metro meeting but I may consider it in the future. - 2 starters for one winner ($3.20) and 2 places ($1.20 & $1.70)

Try Try Again 9th September 2010 03:01 PM

Hi Michaelg,

From yesterday's results, with one modification to the DSLS rule - must be 11, 14, 18 or 21 days ago - there were 8 selections for 3 winners which returned $11, so a profit of $3, and 6 places returning $9.80, a profit of $1.80

Logic behind 11 or 18 days ago means the horse's previous start was on a Saturday and is now lining up on Wednesday. The 14 and 21 days ago means it has started on a previous Wednesday meeting.

Of course these are only for the City meetings in Melb, Syd and Bris. SA meeting was not a city meeting (Murray Bridge)

So from all this I guess it looks promising but probably the jury is still out!

michaelg 10th September 2010 07:06 AM

Yes, its still too early to tell but it does look promising.

So far it seems there could well be merit in your logic about the length of time from last start, applying to both your Sat and Wed methods. I'll be following with interest.

Good luck.

Stix 11th September 2010 09:49 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by michaelg
Hi, Try.

Those are very impressive figures. Did you also look at those with 1 to 13 days since last start, and also Place results?

Do you intend testing it tomorrow at the 4 major states?

I'm going to record the 4 major states for Wed and Sat, but only those selections that have 140-plus points, and also must have the outright highest JA points.

I believe you omit Perth and Launceston from your daily method. I've checked W. Aust results for my method, and it's ugly - 1 winner from 12 selections for a loss of $9.50, and 7 placegetters for a loss of $1.60. I'm still going to continue with W.A, it might pick up. There have only been 3 Tassie selections so far, so I can't really say anything about it yet.

Good luck.
I've dropped WA , TAS and QLD selections - so only betting VIC, SA and NSW(ACT)...

Try Try Again 11th September 2010 10:08 AM

Here are the qualifiers for today

MV 12.00 1#2 Servant
MV 12.35 2#3 Crabs
MV 1.10 3#2 Miss Gai Flyer
MV 1.45 4#3 Big Spirit
Rose 2.40 4#2 Decision Time
MV 3.00 6#1 Reward For Effort
Doom 3.10 5#8 Mambo Flyer
Morph 3.30 5#1 Sayahailmary
MV 3.40 7#2 Whobegotyou
Doom 3.50 6#1 Loves A Challenge
Rose 4.00 6#4 More Joyous
Doom 4.30 7#1 Kryptelon
Morph 4.50 7#7 Produced
Morph 5.30 8#12 Testapal

Fingers are crossed!

michaelg 11th September 2010 10:45 AM

Hi, Try

I'll have an each-way bet on them, except for More Joyous, Crabs and Sayahailmary because I expect to lay them as they are last start winners and are under $3 in the Tele pre-post market.

Stix, you say you've dropped WA, TAS and QLD. Why QLD? I presume they're not performing?

Good luck.

Stix 11th September 2010 01:45 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by michaelg
Hi, Try

I'll have an each-way bet on them, except for More Joyous, Crabs and Sayahailmary because I expect to lay them as they are last start winners and are under $3 in the Tele pre-post market.

Stix, you say you've dropped WA, TAS and QLD. Why QLD? I presume they're not performing?

Good luck.
Correct mate...

Try Try Again 11th September 2010 04:43 PM

Not a bad result today with 5 winners from the 14 bets giving a return of $17.60.


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